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Lucylastic -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 6:39:11 AM)

In March 2016, Human Rights Watch wrote to the secretary of defense to share these initial findings. We released the final report, “Booted: Lack of Recourse for Wrongfully Discharged US Military Rape Survivors,” two weeks ago.

A recent Department of Defense report showed that 25 percent of service members who were administratively discharged after reporting a sexual assault were separated from the military for misconduct. Usually misconduct accounts for 8 percent of discharges. Rape victims were also more likely than average to get “other than honorable discharges.”

In March 2016, Human Rights Watch wrote to the secretary of defense to share these initial findings. We released the final report, “Booted: Lack of Recourse for Wrongfully Discharged US Military Rape Survivors,” two weeks ago.

A recent Department of Defense report showed that 25 percent of service members who were administratively discharged after reporting a sexual assault were separated from the military for misconduct. Usually misconduct accounts for 8 percent of discharges. Rape victims were also more likely than average to get “other than honorable discharges.”

Veterans with less than fully honorable discharges may be denied access to benefits ranging from education to health care. They live with the stigma of being labelled a “bad soldier,” which makes it harder to get jobs. Less than fully honorable discharges correlate with high rates of suicide, homelessness, and incarceration. Attempts to change the discharge classification have usually been futile because the services prioritize misconduct over mental health conditions when considering a separation.

This new policy changes that – at least for those in the Navy.

It could also help Heath Phillips, who was repeatedly gang-raped as a 17-year-old new recruit to the Navy in 1989. When his ship was about to leave port, he faced a choice of fleeing or being confined to a boat with his attackers. He fled, but turned himself in immediately. He was given a choice between the brig on the ship or an “other than honorable” discharge. He said at that point, “I would have signed a deal with the devil himself to escape the torture I kept getting while on board the ship.” He had been diagnosed with PTSD as a result of the repeated rapes he suffered. For two decades he struggled with alcohol and had difficulties holding jobs. He was unable to get help from the Department of Veterans Affairs healthcare system because of his other than honorable discharge. Attempts to upgrade his discharge failed because the misconduct – running off – trumped other considerations.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/06/03/dispatches-us-navy-protect-soldiers-mental-health-conditions

Testing of backlogged rape kits yields new insights into rapists
Finding have major implications for how sexual assaults should be investigated

"These rape kits have been the greatest gold mine of information and leads for law enforcement that I have seen in my four-decade career," said Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Timothy J. McGinty. "We are going to end up prosecuting a thousand criminals, and that will make our county significantly safer. But we also want to learn from mistakes that created this backlog and never allow them to be repeated."

"The thousand or more cases we expect to solve will help us understand the behavior of these career criminals so that police can more effectively and promptly investigate and prosecute rapes. This task force will prevent new victims from being attacked because these criminals will be in prison," McGinty added.

Among the research team's early findings, available in a series of briefs now online:

• Serial rapists are far more common than previous studies had suggested. Of the 243 sexual assaults studied, 51 percent were tied to serial offenders, who generally had more extensive and violent criminal histories than one-time sexual offenders.

"Our findings suggest it is very likely that a sexual offender has either previously sexually assaulted or will offend again in the future," said Rachel Lovell, a senior research associate at the Begun Center and co-leader of the Cuyahoga County Sexual Assault Kit Pilot Research Project. "Investigating each sexual assault as possibly perpetrated by a serial offender has the potential to reduce the number of sexual assaults if investigations focus more on the offender than on single incidents."

• Rapists have long criminal histories that often began before their first documented sexual assault and continued after it.

An overwhelming majority of both serial and one-time sexual offenders had felony-level criminal histories: 74 percent of all serial rapists had at least one prior felony arrest and 95 percent of them had at least one subsequent felony arrest. Among one-time sexual assault offenders, the figures were 51 percent and 78 percent.

Among the serial sex offenders, 26 percent had a prior arrest for sexual assault and 60 percent had a subsequent arrest for sexual assault (not related to the sexual assault identified in the SAK Initiative).

"These are one-man crime waves," said Prosecutor McGinty. "And now that we realize this, we cannot allow these kits to sit on shelves untested in the future. They hold the keys to identifying and convicting dangerous criminals."

• Serial and one-time rape suspects exhibited different behaviors during their crimes.

For example, sexual assaults committed by serial offenders more frequently involved kidnapping victims and then verbally and physically threatening them, often with weapons. And yet sexual assaults committed by serial offenders less frequently involved restraining victims and injuring them in order to complete the attack. One-time offenders were actually more likely to punch, slap, hold down or restrain a victim.

Serial offenders were more likely to commit sexual assault outdoors, in a vehicle, or a garage while a one-time offender was more likely to attack in his own house, or the house of the victim or a third party. Serial sexual offenders tend to attack in the same type of location: 58 percent of serial offenders commit all of their crimes in the same type of setting.

One-time offenders are more likely than serial offenders to commit sexual assaults with others, such as participating in gang rapes.

• Serial offenders were more frequently strangers to their victims compared to one-time offenders.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/06/160606122823.htm


The Steubenville High School rape occurred in Steubenville, Ohio, on the night of August 11, 2012, when a high-school girl, incapacitated by alcohol, was publicly and repeatedly sexually assaulted by her peers, several of whom documented the acts on social media. The victim was transported, undressed, photographed, and sexually assaulted. She was also penetrated vaginally by other students' fingers (digital penetration), an act defined as rape under Ohio law.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case




Staleek -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 6:39:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

No answer I see lol
Appalling. Someone mentions rape and he posts a picture of an African-American. It's this kind of racism by which white cops justify the shooting of black suspects.


It's a reaction gif.

The relevant part is in the emotional state conveyed by the individual within the image.

Here on earth we human beings sometimes communicate with body language and subtle hints like this, as it sometimes offers a means of conveying a message which is simpler yet carries a more complex set of messages than a few words could. The gif allows us to do this from a distance.




Musicmystery -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 6:41:10 AM)


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Music, so this proves that rape is more acceptable in western culture in gangs than muslim culture?

Muslims do it in the influence of no alcohol, which means no guilt even straight. Doesn't that make it worse?

This proves that, in addition to being estranged from reality and reading comprehension, you're alienated from logic as well.




respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 7:15:02 AM)

So Lucy provided just this very small portion of gang rape, which is probably all! As I said, there may be some cases.

Yet, totally ignores what's going on which is a cultural problem.

The left ignores a cultural problem compared to isolated incidences.

That is laughable.




respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 7:16:39 AM)

Anyway, good night




Lucylastic -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 7:24:03 AM)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/justice/montana-rape-30-day-sentence/


Prosecutors filed an appeal Friday questioning the controversial 31-day sentence imposed on Stacey Dean Rambold, whose victim took her own life.
Rambold, a former high school teacher, pleaded guilty to the rape. He was sentenced in August and released from a Montana prison on probation the next month.
The case drew criticism and a firestorm of media attention. So did the judge who sentenced Rambold.
Seemed older than her age

When District Judge G. Todd Baugh imposed the sentence, he said the teen victim "seemed older than her chronological age."
Rapist teacher leaves jail after 1 month

The raped girl Cherise Morales killed herself in 2010.
http://www.rawstory.com/2013/03/cnn-grieves-that-guilty-verdict-ruined-promising-lives-of-steubenville-rapists/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/amherst-sexual-assault-tshirt-rape-sexual-violence_n_1982159.html?1358269825
An offensive T-shirt printed by an off-campus fraternity at Amherst College has triggered a heated debate about the school’s alleged “sexist” culture, which some students say has spawned an unsafe environment for women and survivors of sexual violence.

Earlier this year, a fraternity not directly affiliated with the Massachusetts school designed this image in honor of the frat’s annual pig-roast party:
[image]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/822643/original.jpg[/image]

http://fox17online.com/2014/02/25/msu-under-federal-investigation-accused-of-mishandling-sexual-assault-cases/#axzz2uOY6Cg6e
EAST LANSING, Mich. — Michigan State University is at the center of a federal investigation, accused of mishandling reported cases of sexual assault.

The U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights is investigating. Department of Education spokesperson Jim Bradshaw told me two complaints are under investigation.

The federal department is holding focus groups at MSU to get a feel for the campus climate surrounding sexual assault, sexual harassment and sexual violence.

University Spokesperson Kent Cassella issued a statement to FOX 17. It reads in part:

“MSU takes all allegations of sexual assault seriously and has a process in place to respond to such allegations.”

“We are cooperating fully with the investigation. MSU responded fully and appropriately to the incidents under investigation,” Cassella said.

The statement goes on to say that federal law and privacy concerns prevent MSU from fully discussing specifics. Cassella added, the university has “a comprehensive record of the actions we took that supports the university’s position that we acted appropriately.”

Junior Laura Swanson is with the university’s Sexual Assault Crisis Intervention Team.

“In a way, I’m happy that this is happening, because I feel like survivors don’t generally get the attention that they need,” Swanson said.

She said she’s worked with victims who feel their cases weren’t taken seriously by the university, and that there’s a pervasive stigma. She believes there’s a hesitance to call sexual assault what it is.

“I think that this speaks to a larger cultural issue about the way that universities deal with sexual assault,” she explained.

Colleges and universities must document and report crime statistics by law under the Clery Act. According to the most recent crime data published by the MSU Police Department in 2012 14 sexual assaults were reported on campus to university police. In 2011, 13 sexual assaults were reported. In 2010, 11 were reported.

The MSU Police Department has a formal sexual assault reporting process outlined on their website.

The chart indicates that independent of the police department, the university does conduct its own investigation. There are several points made. One, the victim and the perpetrator must be affiliated with the university in order for MSU to investigate. Also, the school’s findings can result in university sanctions.




Lucylastic -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 7:56:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Anyway, good night

chicken shit little ass worm




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 8:52:49 AM)

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A logical person can recognize that most, not all gang rapes, are done by muslims in this day and age in the western world.

Got any actual stats to back that up?
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So how can you call western culture "a rape culture" but not muslim culture?

I don't.




blnymph -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/8/2016 10:13:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Please, all lefties, how are rape gangs created?

If we acknowledge how rape gangs are created, then we can talk about the matter rationally.

They are created in your mind, how you do create it I am not at all interested in, and what you posted has not been "rational-ly" in any way and is hardly worth talking about




respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/9/2016 11:25:25 PM)

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chicken shit little ass worm


Oh little Lucy, I wasn't running away. It was late at night and I had work the next day. I'm so sorry that I prioritise that over staying up longer in ridiculing your ridiculous standpoint.

You see, your stand point are isolated cases. My standpoint is an epidemic within a demographic of people who are muslim migrants.

It may not be that bad in places like Australia and America YET but in Europe where muslim migration is rampant and more so than any other parts of the western world, we see the huge difference.

Here are some links to get warmed up.

MUSLIM GANG RAPE EPIDEMIC IN UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLzQ-ybumrY

Sweden: est 77% of rapes committed by 2% Muslim male population – Crime statistics

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/sweden-77-6-percent-of-all-rapes-in-the-country-committed-by-muslim-males-making-up-2-percent-of-population/

Muslim gang-rapes across Europe under-reported in press

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/346059#ixzz2OUiEaylt

Islam Female cleric says Rape non-muslims in order to humiliate them!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f74_1452606016

It's so clear that rape is more tied to muslims from other cultures than western men. But the loony left are in total denial of this for some strange reason or another.

Lefties prefer to cover their ears and eyes and sing lalala to ignore the facts about islam and what muslims are actually doing. When white men are doing it though, they are all ears.

Also, of course, just because the sources aren't from muslim loving lefties, it must be wrong god damn it.

What a laugh




Staleek -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/9/2016 11:29:57 PM)

What about good ol' US of A military rape culture?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8005198.stm

Just curious as to how you perceive that.




respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/9/2016 11:39:36 PM)

Staleek

The huge difference here is that this is within the military when they are in other countries during war. The soldiers are mentally damaged and insane as it is by what they are going through. This is no excuse for rape of course. There is no excuse for rape. The point is that you are comparing apples to oranges. Hardly any soldier at war comes back sane. This isn't about citizens going about in a civilised society who just feel like raping for the fun of it. YOu are comparing a small subset of men in the military who are mentally disturbed from war to the general muslim population in a peaceful society.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/9/2016 11:50:54 PM)

Oh, that's okay then. If you are in the military and in a combat zone, go ahead and rape. I wonder if the women in the military get that ' get out of jail free card' for some other misdemeanour ?
I was 5 years in the military and a lot of that was spent in combat zones and if any of us had been found guilty of rape, we would have spent a long time in a military prison, that's if we made it past our comrades first. I saw two men caught raping women. They went in the diary as ' battle casualties' NOT 'damaged goods' although they DID get returned to sender




Staleek -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/9/2016 11:59:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Staleek

The huge difference here is that this is within the military when they are in other countries during war. The soldiers are mentally damaged and insane as it is by what they are going through. This is no excuse for rape of course. There is no excuse for rape. The point is that you are comparing apples to oranges. Hardly any soldier at war comes back sane. This isn't about citizens going about in a civilised society who just feel like raping for the fun of it. YOu are comparing a small subset of men in the military who are mentally disturbed from war to the general muslim population in a peaceful society.


You've just found the words "small subset!" Ohhh happy joy!

Now apply them correctly. Women suffer horrifically in some Islamic cultures, but to generalize that it is all Muslim cultures is just you trying to excuse the fact you are an ignorant and bigoted racist. A woman may be about to become president of the USA, but no female has ever held that office before. Women have been elected to lead several Muslim states at this point. Look at Turkey for example - women were given the right to vote in the mid 1930s. Before Portugal, France, Spain, Switzerland, and 30 fucking years before Catholic Italy.

Please try to LEARN SOMETHING about the material you are trying to discuss. Women in Saudi Arabia are treated very differently to women in Malaysia, Indonesia, Tunisia, Bangladesh etc. This is a cultural phenomena, and needs to be dealt with as such.

The fact you are exploiting womens rights to justify this is tragically ironic.




respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/10/2016 12:06:26 AM)

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but to generalize that it is all Muslim cultures


Nope, I never did at all. What I do claim though is that the rape epidemic in Europe come from muslim cultures.

There is no doubt that women get treated far worse in the islamic world, not all parts, than in the western world in general. To disagree with that is laughable. There are more islamic countries who treat women worse than there is not.





respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/10/2016 12:08:15 AM)

This isn't exploiting women's rights. This is simply telling the truth.

What I define as exploiting the women's rights complaint is when feminists in the western world complain about petty issues like manspreading while ignoring what's going on in the islamic world.




blnymph -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/10/2016 12:12:23 AM)

needless to tell you again and again that there is no such thing like a rape epidemic in Europe






respectmen -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/10/2016 12:14:35 AM)

Rape Epidemic In Europe: Why Won’t European Politicians Do Anything To Stop It?

http://www.infowars.com/rape-epidemic-in-europe-why-wont-european-politicians-do-anything-to-stop-it/




blnymph -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/10/2016 12:38:13 AM)

have you had a look at the date of your link?

January 12 ...

meanwhile a lot more about what happened in Cologne has been investigated by the police, the first trials and convictions happened
but those of course gave no more food for polemicists and conspiracy theorists
and no epidemic ...

do you not check facts because you do not want to know facts?

just mad rumours - is this your type of fun?




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Muslim culture rape vs western culture rape (6/10/2016 12:42:19 AM)

Blnymph......his little mind is made up, please stop trying to confuse him with facts.




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