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Awareness -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/18/2016 1:55:40 AM)
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ORIGINAL: crazyml
Gosh. Who made the claim that one in five women on college campuses is raped? Every feminist here. Over and over and over again.
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You see, your reply was to this statement:
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
You were failed by a culture on our college campuses where one in five women is sexually assaulted
Have an adult read this through with you carefully. Let's see if they can infer that Lucylastic was making the claim that one in five women on college campuses is raped? That would be difficult since she was quoting the vice president. If you actually were comprehending what you'd read, you'd know that. Oh, wait - your infamous inability to understand what the fuck is going on rears its ugly head again. Never mind.
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Oh no. We cannot, because... well because that is not what she said. She didn't say anything. Again, she quoted the vice president.
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Your response was to say quote:
"Jesus wept, this is utterly false and has been debunked over and over, for fuck's sake" Which it has. Comprehensively.
Then you posted a link to an article, which - If you re-read it carefully, points out that the one in five figure does not refer to rape, but instead to sexual assault. It clearly says that it refers to both. Is English your second language?
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Now, here's where the magic happens... You claimed to be "debunking" a statement that one in five women is subjected to a sexual assault in college.... by posting a link that carefully explains that one in five women are not raped, but are sexually assaulted. From the study - "If you’ve followed the discussion about sexual assault on college campuses in America, it’s likely you’ve heard some variation of the claim that 1 in 5 women on college campuses in the United States has been sexually assaulted or raped. Or you may have heard the even more incorrect abbreviated version, that 1 in 5 women on campus has been raped."
The authors make clear that attempting to use 1 in 5 for either claim is invalid. This is from the authors themselves - never mind the fact that their methodology itself is riddled with flaws.
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Oh my. Prissy, aren't you.
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You, either through poor comprehension skills, or in the bully's hope that if you tell a lie loudly enough it will become true, managed to misrepresent what had been said. You, through being manifestly unable or unwilling to understand even the first paragraph of the article are attempting to salvage some semblance of self-respect by lying through your ass.
You also asserted that some sexual assaults are "innocuous". I said kissing is innocuous. If you think otherwise, then you probably think that micro-aggressions are a real thing and spend Fridays on a therapist's couch trying not to cry while recalling traumatic paper cuts you've endured.
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Well, many people will differ. Unlike you, I don't think that any sexual assault is innocuous, but since you're clearly ok with some sexual assaults, I guess we should agree to differ. You're lying again. I said kissing was innocuous. Ye Gods, you're a dense, obtuse little fucker.
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Ironically, I'm not the one doing the misrepresentation here Oh, I'm afraid you are. Still, that's what I expect from you weak-minded male feminists. You're not very good with the thinking and the manhood.quote:
It's you. Beaten up by the jocks in school,eh? Hardly surprising.
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Perhaps because you're stupid, perhaps because you're a simple troll, or perhaps because you're so terrified of the idea of equality that you lose control. I don't know, nor do I care. Of course you care. You're somewhat obsessed with this topic and you're clearly carrying a chip on your shoulder when it comes to men who make you feel inferior. It's so blatantly obvious.
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At no stage have I said anything about the appropriateness or otherwise of "forced kissing and unwanted groping". I'm simply highlighting the author's own statements that the 1 in 5 figure is incorrect for all the reasons which they mention.
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Actually, you stated that it is "innocuous". Here... on this board. You stated it. That was a silly lie, wasn't it! A lie is a misrepresentation of fact. Still having trouble with the English language, I see.
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You assert that you're highlighting the author's own statements that the one in five figure is incorrect, but while - since you assure me that you have - I have to believe that you've read the link, it is clear that you did not understand it.
You're misrepresenting what the author said. No. You're just basically incompetent. Why you even bother is beyond me. You're clearly utterly crap at the thinking.
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The author made it plain that one in five women on college camupses is subjected to a sexual assault of some kind. This accords 100%, by the way, with LucyLastic's statement that.... erm... one in five women on college camupses is subjected to a sexual assault of some kind. Wrong. The authors made it clear that the 1 in 5 figure is problematic due to their methodology and anyone with even a basic understanding of scientific method could draw that conclusion for themselves. Which is why you're having trouble. Have someone explain the science to you - there's a good chap.
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You're misrepresenting what you said, what Lucy said, what the author said. Are you doing this for charity? No, you're just an idiot who's clearly unable to comprehend what he reads, let alone think about it. That you'll try and paper over the gaping holes in your argument with a bunch of lies is a clear indicator of just how weak you are.
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Well done! Now where did Lucylastic make the claim that forced kissing is rape? Nowhere... so you're now inventing stuff. For the 3rd fucking time, she was quoting the vice president you cretin.
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Where did I claim that forced kissing or unwanted touching are equivalent to rape? Nowhere. You're making things up. It's pathetic. You haven't done much of anything other than squeal like a bitch and demonstrate your inability to read.
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More baseless misrepresentation. You will find no evidence to support this pitiful ad hom. On the other hand, there is abundant evidence of your puerile attempts to characterise feminism as a sinister, sceeery, anti-male conspiracy. No, you idiot, third-wave feminism is an intellectually lazy, victim-hood narrative which promotes women's rights while infantilising them and insisting on avoidance of their concomitant responsibilities.
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Your little ad-hom is telling though - Nice how you think that using a gender based slur is likely to have any kind of impact on an adult. It sure had an impact on you. You didn't ignore it. And while you might consider yourself an adult, lad - there's no doubt you're weaker than any adult male has a right to be - so I'm sticking with the "bitch pretending to be a man" diagnosis. Because if you are a man, you're sure as shit one of the sorriest fucking specimens around.
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But let me be clear - Strong men have nothing to fear from gender equality, Let me be clear - you have no fucking idea what it is to be a strong man. None. That is patently obvious.
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strong men don't have to force themselves on women That's idiocy. Strength enables you to do exactly that. Trying to draw a correlation between strength and moral or upright behaviour is a common mistake that many in the kink community make. Like you, they are ignorant fools.
While I'm at it, if you had the faintest and I mean FAINTEST clue on how to attract women, you'd know full well they expect a man to lead and a vast majority of them are turned off by men who "ask permission" to kiss them.
Again, since you're too weak to actually take the lead, you have no idea what I'm talking about.
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strong men are ready and able to compete in a society without needing the privilege that they enjoy because they're men. What privilege, you babbling idiot. If women are equal to men, then why do they need special privileges and exceptions to enable them to compete with men? The idea that men gained their dominance through some kind of confidence trick and it's the only reason they're in charge is stark raving insanity. Men dominate society because they're better at it.
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Weak men fear gender equality, pitiful losers who would be nothing without their male privilege. No, weak men say they "need feminism" and think pandering to women is how they get laid. Which is why the dominant men in the kink world get laid at a far greater rate than the sub men do.
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I feel sorry for them, mostly, the ones that whine constantly - not so much. Oh, you don't need to. They're winning the game, dude. You're the evolutionary dead end with the limited options. Trust me, dominant men are doing just fine.
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If you say that something is "innocuous" .... Oh... you don't understand what that word means do you?
Here is one definition - "harmless, safe, non-dangerous, non-poisonous, non-toxic, non-irritant, non-injurious, innocent;"
So.. you claimed, here on this board, that forced kissing, which is a sexual assault, is harmless. You probably didn't know that was what you were saying, because you didn't know what the word means.
Don't use words that you don't understand, it makes you look foolish.
*grin* Anyone who thinks kissing is sexual assault is something of a mental case. If you think a woman who's been kissed is suffering, you need to get therapy.
Now while I'm at it, I'll throw in some bonuses:
This article quotes the lead author of the study who says 1 in 5 is not a nationally representative statistic
And here is the DOJ study which shows that the rate of rape and sexual assault for college students is lower than that for non-students. For reference, the rate for students was 6.1 in 1,000.
Yeah... that's what I thought - that's nowhere near 1 in 5. But I'm sure you won't be able to accept DOJ statistics because patriarchy. And vagina.
But hey, you do you, girl. If you need to pretend that 20% of all women attending college are being raped and sexually assaulted just so you can fuel your anti-male outrage, then you do that. Just don't expect anyone with a scrap of intelligence to believe it.
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