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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:23:08 AM   
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That said, it's actually not about dumbshitery, it's more about being in the right investment group beforehand.


Or in your case, revising history a couple of decades after the fact to make yourself sound smart.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:26:16 AM   
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I don't disagree with you.

But if one reads into the fineries of all the 'national security' laws, the description of what constitutes terrorist activities, and then reads news reports about police actions; the distinction and difference thing becomes a bit difficult there, to say the least.



Terrorists have a constitutionally defended right to buy firearms, just like every other American citizen.
That's why the right have been banging on about banning moslems, rather than controlling guns, since the last incident of a tooled up jihadist shooting a bunch of people for no good reason, isn't it?

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:31:59 AM   
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I agree with you Edwird and when you come to think of it, Korea was not a war, it was a 'police action'........................makes you wonder who ran which red light, doesn't it ?


Oh boy, if Americans or anyone else had half a clue on that one ...

The US was doing just fine, until McCarthy or one of his sycophants decided that merely repulsing the N Korean invasion wasn't enough *(which was clearly accomplished), but now we had to push things north all the way to the Chinese border.

Oh! Guess what happened! What a surprise!




Nice revised history from an armchair warrior.


You are welcome to correct any perceived inaccuracies in the above. Aside from my stupidly saying McCarthy when I meant MacArthur. Wrong '50s guy! Ooops.

But here's a hint; a person who reads history, or, about five different books on that subject in particular, is not an 'armchair warrior.' Is everybody who reads up on William I's invasion, or anything about WW II, an 'armchair warrior'?

Unless you're one of those folks that thinks personal ideology should trump facts?

(I'm starting to see why that guy's name holds such appeal for some ...)





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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:33:20 AM   
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I don't disagree with you.

But if one reads into the fineries of all the 'national security' laws, the description of what constitutes terrorist activities, and then reads news reports about police actions; the distinction and difference thing becomes a bit difficult there, to say the least.



Terrorists have a constitutionally defended right to buy firearms, just like every other American citizen.
That's why the right have been banging on about banning moslems, rather than controlling guns, since the last incident of a tooled up jihadist shooting a bunch of people for no good reason, isn't it?

Wow...lots of idiocy in this. Especially knowing exactly what the right was thinking while never having actually looked at anything that could have been published by someone from the right...why that might be FOX news or Limbaugh. We know you don't listen to them. So you must have gotten that knowledge osmotically. Or...wait...your koolaide. Okay now I understand.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:34:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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I agree with you Edwird and when you come to think of it, Korea was not a war, it was a 'police action'........................makes you wonder who ran which red light, doesn't it ?


Oh boy, if Americans or anyone else had half a clue on that one ...

The US was doing just fine, until McCarthy or one of his sycophants decided that merely repulsing the N Korean invasion wasn't enough *(which was clearly accomplished), but now we had to push things north all the way to the Chinese border.

Oh! Guess what happened! What a surprise!




Nice revised history from an armchair warrior.


You are welcome to correct any perceived inaccuracies in the above.

But here's a hint; a person who reads history, or, about five different books on that subject in particular, is not an 'armchair warrior.'

Unless you're one of those folks that thinks personal ideology should trump facts?

(I'm starting to see why that guy's name holds such appeal for some ...)





Lol, then you can provide links. Have at it.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:38:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


I don't disagree with you.

But if one reads into the fineries of all the 'national security' laws, the description of what constitutes terrorist activities, and then reads news reports about police actions; the distinction and difference thing becomes a bit difficult there, to say the least.



Terrorists have a constitutionally defended right to buy firearms, just like every other American citizen.
That's why the right have been banging on about banning moslems, rather than controlling guns, since the last incident of a tooled up jihadist shooting a bunch of people for no good reason, isn't it?

Wow...lots of idiocy in this. Especially knowing exactly what the right was thinking while never having actually looked at anything that could have been published by someone from the right...why that might be FOX news or Limbaugh. We know you don't listen to them. So you must have gotten that knowledge osmotically. Or...wait...your koolaide. Okay now I understand.

Flump (the wallmeister) isn't on the right, then?

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:42:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


I don't disagree with you.

But if one reads into the fineries of all the 'national security' laws, the description of what constitutes terrorist activities, and then reads news reports about police actions; the distinction and difference thing becomes a bit difficult there, to say the least.



Terrorists have a constitutionally defended right to buy firearms, just like every other American citizen.
That's why the right have been banging on about banning moslems, rather than controlling guns, since the last incident of a tooled up jihadist shooting a bunch of people for no good reason, isn't it?

Wow...lots of idiocy in this. Especially knowing exactly what the right was thinking while never having actually looked at anything that could have been published by someone from the right...why that might be FOX news or Limbaugh. We know you don't listen to them. So you must have gotten that knowledge osmotically. Or...wait...your koolaide. Okay now I understand.

Flump (the wallmeister) isn't on the right, then?

Obviously you don't know what Trump said or how it relates to any issue. Just drinking the koolaide again I see.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 10:55:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Flump didn't talk about banning moslems, and a few of the rightards in here didn't say he was right, then.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 11:12:30 AM   
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Lol, then you can provide links. Have at it.


No problem, I'm used to mental slum dwellers like you expecting everything to be spoon fed to them.

Here are the links:

https://www.cmlibrary.org/

http://www.cpcc.edu/library

http://dekalblibrary.org/

http://afpls.org/

http://library.gsu.edu/

http://libraries.emory.edu/


I don't remember if I checked out any book on the Korean War when I lived in Spartanburg for a year, or when visiting in St. Charles Illinois, but just in case:

http://www.infodepot.org/#

http://www.stcharleslibrary.org/


Here's how you find a place that has books to read for free; go to the search box, type in the name of your city, followed by the word "library."

"Give a man a link, and he still probably doesn't read for a day; give a man instructions on where to find books, and he probably just says 'the hell with that!'"






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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 12:15:52 PM   
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Flump didn't talk about banning moslems, and a few of the rightards in here didn't say he was right, then.

You tell me what koolaide you drank...it has something to do with banning Muslims and I'll show you the koolaide. Yours is a typical leftist that only listens to leftists error. I don't want to give you any hints until you fully state your error.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 12:29:10 PM   
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Lol, then you can provide links. Have at it.


No problem, I'm used to mental slum dwellers like you expecting everything to be spoon fed to them.

Here are the links:

https://www.cmlibrary.org/

http://www.cpcc.edu/library

http://dekalblibrary.org/

http://afpls.org/

http://library.gsu.edu/

http://libraries.emory.edu/


I don't remember if I checked out any book on the Korean War when I lived in Spartanburg for a year, or when visiting in St. Charles Illinois, but just in case:

http://www.infodepot.org/#

http://www.stcharleslibrary.org/


Here's how you find a place that has books to read for free; go to the search box, type in the name of your city, followed by the word "library."

"Give a man a link, and he still probably doesn't read for a day; give a man instructions on where to find books, and he probably just says 'the hell with that!'"






Naa edwird. You said, "The US was doing just fine, until McCarthy or one of his sycophants decided that merely repulsing the N Korean invasion wasn't enough *(which was clearly accomplished), but now we had to push things north all the way to the Chinese border."

In that saying, since you admit your error about McCarthy and MacAuther, politics created a major blunder by not merely repulsing the NK but by pushing them back to the Chinese border. The implication being it was a stupid political decision. Since you weren't there at the time to have superior political knowledge, you are either revising history to suit you or have thoughtful links to political historians that can explain it. Since then you revised the McCarthy error to be a military error by MacAuthor. So, then...let's say, in light of how Al Quida was repulsed in Iraq and not thoroughly beaten and has now morphed into ISIl, provide links that justify your view. We know historically that the Japanese were thoroughly beaten and not merely repulsed and they ended up allies. We know that Germany and Italy were thorough beaten and not just repulsed and they have rejoined the league of civilized nations. So, knowing those four situations, Japan, Germany, Italy, Al Quida in Iraq, how do you justify your assertion that merely repulsing. NK would have been the proper thing to do?



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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 12:34:54 PM   
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They mock Trump about his "Mexican Wall" yet are planning to wall off the Wells Fargo center in Philly for the Dem National Convention.

I'm shocked I tells ya... Shocked

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Wells-Fargo-Center-Xfinity-Live-to-Be-Inside-Perimeter-Secret-Service-Says-382433501.html

Well first, the two walls are apples and oranges, so not ironic at all.

And second, yeah, the dems have decided to go the way of the republicans and make it about establishment without dissent.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 12:39:22 PM   
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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 12:41:46 PM   
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I implied nothing of the kind. Take off your partisan glasses and you'll see there are no heroes in this mess.

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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 1:13:21 PM   
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So, then...let's say, in light of how Al Quida was repulsed in Iraq and not thoroughly beaten and has now morphed into ISIl, provide links that justify your view. We know historically that the Japanese were thoroughly beaten and not merely repulsed and they ended up allies. We know that Germany and Italy were thorough beaten and not just repulsed and they have rejoined the league of civilized nations. So, knowing those four situations, Japan, Germany, Italy, Al Quida in Iraq, how do you justify your assertion that merely repulsing. NK would have been the proper thing to do?



Because it came very close to full-on war with China, or Russia, or both. Vietnam much less so, invasion of ME far less so.

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your error about McCarthy and MacAuther,


which you , the expert, completely missed, BTW. Had I not pointed it out myself, you'd probably still be using that name yourself. While we're at it, it's MacArthur, not 'MacAurther.' Learn the copy/paste thing and save yourself further embarrassment (take it from me!).

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The implication being it was a stupid political decision.


Your lack of interpretation skills being in full force here, there was no such implication. Unless you think that MacArthur was elected by the public..

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Since then you revised the McCarthy error to be a military error by MacAuthor.


I did? Whatever 'fortified wine' you got in the bong there is certainly doing its job. The information I got from numerous books is that it was a military cock-up on that very point. It's true that Truman allowed invasion beyond the 38th parallel, but MacArthur wrote several instructions to generals regarding invasion of China itself. None of that came from Washington, not even from the Joint Chiefs.





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RE: Ironic Hypocrisy, The Dems are building a wall in P... - 6/14/2016 1:31:46 PM   
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The US (and S Korea) absolutely could have gotten N Korea if MacArthur hadn't been such an idiot.

They had Pyongyang well in hand, and still the Chinese didn't get involved.

But when you militarize right at another country's borders, they just might take offense at that.



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