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ORIGINAL: littleclip
the tragedy in fla is very sad and there are many who need support in its aftermath my prayers are for the familys of those affected
the 2nd amendment has 2 parts 1 right to keep arms for home defense
and 2 right to bear arms as a prt of a well organized militia
for those that want to carry a gun they can join one of the many recognized groups to do so

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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as far as having a assault rifle as your carry gun i dont see any reason for it

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there is no excuse in using any religion as a reason to cause great harm instead of looking for a reason to point blame and hate lets try to find a way to prevent hate and accept others and their diffrences

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
from abc news...
Orlando nightclub shooter Omar Mateen legally purchased the guns he had on him today within the past week, even though he had been known to law enforcement for years, federal officials confirmed.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he could still have bought a gun...
Even if he had been on the no fly list.
why?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Jesus Christ you're a windbag, Awareness. As pointed out to you, now on many, many occasions, the vast majority of political scientists use the right/left axis.

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The chief reasons why you don't are a) because you don't understand it and have only the most superficial acquaintanceship with it

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and b) because you're so monumentally egotistical that you like to think you're 'above' it.

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You're making a standard first year undergrad political science student's mistake.

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The 'power base' that's fragile and causing a spluttering furious defence isn't that of political scientists.

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It's your own. You just aren't the intellectual legend in your own time that you think you are. I mean, hell ... were you a Zeppelin in a former incarnation? I've never seen such a thin skin wrapped around so much gas.

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ORIGINAL: AgentBlack

@ greta.
Reason why is cause our country was built using equal firepower against lthe greatest military in the world at that time.
Americans vs the tories redcoat british.

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The American Revolution.
Our Constitution. Garuntees its is our right to posess the same firepower as a common soldier.

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say.. 200 years from now...
Gun control happens citizens can still have guns... But only 1 bullet! and that bullet must not exceed 400 feet per second.

Meanwhile another country has been machining guns too..
their guns though.. Hold 100 bullets and shoot 3,000 feet per second...
the other country sees something in our country that they want..

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
This guy didn't kill people because he had a gun.

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He shot people at a gay nightclub because he could not tolerate homosexuality. He killed people because he decided that his right to choose was more important than theirs.

He was probably suffering from some mental health issue in addition to being quite radical in his religious faith. I have not yet read how he got his guns, but that is important.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

from abc news...
Orlando nightclub shooter Omar Mateen legally purchased the guns he had on him today within the past week, even though he had been known to law enforcement for years, federal officials confirmed.

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that he had a .223 caliber AR-type rifle and a Glock handgun on him at the time of the shooting early this morning, which the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says he bought legally.

News of the legal purchases comes as officials confirmed that Mateen had been interviewed three times by the FBI in the years leading up to the shooting because his name came up in connection to two different cases. Such information would not show up in a background check because both cases were closed.

Law enforcement sources confirmed that Mateen was on the FBI's radar but not necessarily on a watch list. But even appearing on the list wouldn't have necessarily prevented him from obtaining weapons.

"Being on the watch list is not in itself disqualifying, under law. The disqualifying elements of the investigation may be classified," ABC News consultant and former acting Homeland Security undersecretary John Cohen said.

According to Florida law, there is a mandatory three-day waiting period for handgun purchases, but no permit, registration or licensing is needed to buy or own rifles, shotguns or handguns. A permit is needed, however, to carry a handgun.


In 2013, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun violence gave Florida an “F” when grading states' based on their approaches to regulating guns and ammunition.

The study noted that Florida has had "historically weak gun laws."

Shooting enthusiast magazine Guns & Ammo ranked Florida as the 12th best state for gun owners, noting how they have no restrictions on modern firearms and the increase in shooting ranges in metropolitan areas.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/orlando-shooter-bought-guns-previous-flags-fbi/story?id=39799861

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Following the tragic terrorist shooting attack in San Bernardino in December, it was revealed by a former Department of Homeland Security agent that he had been running a special investigation that potentially could have prevented that attack from taking place.

Now, following the even more deadly mass shooting terrorist assault on a nightclub in Orlando, Florida, that same agent is suggesting that his investigation could have prevented that attack from occurring as well.

According to WND, retired DHS agent Philip Haney had been running a special investigation into a worldwide Islamist movement originating from Pakistan known as Tablighi Jamaat. In the course of his investigation, Haney uncovered numerous connections between several mosques and individuals in the U.S. with known terrorists and terrorist organizations, including Al Qaida and Hamas, among others.

Unfortunately, just as Haney’s investigation was really ramping up, it was shut down in a joint effort by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s State Department and the Civil Rights division of DHS, due to “concern” that the investigation was unfairly targeting Muslims.

Making matters worse, much of the important information and links Haney had documented were summarily deleted in 2012.

Had the investigation not been halted, and the information deleted, there’s no telling what radical Islamic mayhem could have been prevented — including, possibly, the San Bernardino and Orlando attacks.

What couldn’t be deleted was the information remaining in Haney’s mind, and following the attack in Orlando and the revelation of the mosque the shooter attended. Haney knew the mosque was familiar, and did some digging. He quickly determined that the gunman’s mosque, the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, was part of the network he had uncovered five years ago.

“This case struck me as very similar to the San Bernardino shooting case,” Haney said. “I suspected that they were both part of a national and international network of organizations.”

Using only open-source material, Haney was able to reestablish the connections he first discovered years ago in the span of only a few hours. That left him critical of the FBI’s efforts at previously investigating the Orlando jihadist.

“It means they didn’t go through the same basic, analytical process that I went through over a three- or four-hour period in which I was able to link the mosque to my previous cases,” he said.


Sadly, because of the prevailing PC culture and desire to avoid offending radical Muslims that runs rampant through President Barack Obama’s administration, an investigation that could have led to a shut down of radical mosques and the arrest of real and potential terrorists was ended before it could do any good.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter to help spread this added proof that Hillary Clinton cares not a bit about protecting Americans from violent jihad, and is more concerned with the hurt feelings of targeted jihadists.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he could still have bought a gun...
Even if he had been on the no fly list.
why?

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he could still have bought a gun...
Even if he had been on the no fly list.
why?

Because they wouldn't let him carry a gun onto a plane in his hand luggage.
Obvs.