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Staleek -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:12:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC quote: ORIGINAL: Staleek quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods I'm dubious that would make him a staunch moslem either, whatever hilarious bullshit Greta believes about moslem law only applying to moslems in moslem countries where shariah law is practiced. He also religiously attends the Mosque together with his son. So you deny his Muslim when he religiously attends mosque, but insist his a closet homosexual because he attended gay club? It doesn't matter whether his closeted or not. It makes no difference that his Islamic beliefs made him kill gay people, despite his own closeted tendencies, thanks to his religion, his forced to kill by his religion or pursuaded to kill by his religion, people of his own kind. Okay, I'm totally fine with him being gay as well. So gays are killing gays. Great! Now Muslim gays also wanna kill fellow gay people. Nobody is denying the guy is a Muslim. And, as far as I can see, nobody is really saying that being a Muslim hasn't influenced who he was and what he did in some way. What I am saying (and I think Mr Whoremods is as well) is that trying to tie this in with Islam (yet again by you) is beyond foolish. He wasn't a devout Muslim, he wasn't there doing Allahs bidding. He was there, as is pretty obvious at this point, because seeing two men kissing turned him into a rage monster, and he had an explosively violent temper without any self control. That's the same as Dylan Roof who saw black people, or Adam Lanza when he saw other kids, or any one of these psycho shooters. Addendum: You can't remove psychopaths from society at this point. Why people turn out like this is poorly understood. The only way to prevent this is to not have an arsenal free-for-all. It seems to me that if he calls 911 in the middle, of his killing spree and gives his allegiance to ISIS and shouts "Ala who akbar" on the 911 recording, it's damn near impossible to dismiss this as anything else other than a terrorist attack. Although it's fun watching you liberals twist yourselves into pretzels trying. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/06/orlando_shooter_may_not_have_u.html Read it. Understand it. Then you can post intelligently. quote: Comey suggested Monday that Mateen may have not understood the distinctions among the groups. Relatives have given mixed reports about the level of Mateen's religiosity, with some suggesting he preferred working out to studying religion. He attended the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, Fla., though he is said to have rarely spoken. His Afghan father has filmed videos that appeared to offer support for the Taliban, a fundamentalist movement that also opposes the Islamic State, though his messages also were sometimes incoherent. Mateen certainly wouldn't be the first terrorist to cite Islam as justification for his actions while apparently being somewhat confused about the religion. In one especially notorious case, two British men who were found guilty of terrorism charges in 2014 ordered "Islam for Dummies," "The Koran for Dummies" and "Arabic for Dummies" from Amazon before they left for Syria.

Greta75 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:15:26 AM)
quote: "Islam for Dummies," "The Koran for Dummies" and "Arabic for Dummies" from Amazon before they left for Syria. And I bet those books are written by muslim apologists which has nothing but peaceful interpretations in it! Let me tell you what is one problem with Islam. The authentic book is in Arabic. But the English versions. Can have like 2 completely opposite translation of the same verse, depending on which English translation you wanna follow. I highly doubt a "dummy guide book", is following the one that most sharia law countries that follows the authentic and original arabic version, follows. So what proof is that exactly?

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:17:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri I have a Constitutional right to own a gun. Who cares? Part of the problem with the USA is that you guys seem to think that rights don't also come with responsibilities. The problem with owning a gun is that human beings are creatures of passion and everyone turns into a fucking lunatic when they're under duress. quote: Whether it fires that fast might change. And, I can assure you that I, personally, have no current need, nor do I see my having a future need, for a gun that I can fire that fast. quote: How many people in the US have guns that fire that fast? Well given the USA has more guns than people, it'd be hard to say but you can probably figure a 3rd of the population has a semi-automatic. quote: How many people in the US that have guns that fire that fast went on a shooting rampage? It's not having a gun that causes people to kill. Actually that's not true. Crime is primarily a consequence of means, motive and opportunity. A gun provides the means by which an individual can indulge their darker passions. It's why suicide by firearm is such a huge problem - because you can off yourself in the blink of an eye with a gun, whereas other methods either require more will (because you'll suffer pain) or will take longer, thus increasing your opportunity to cool down or be interrupted. People are too emotionally unstable to be walking around with death in their pockets. The idea that this is a constitutional right is insane and the idea that you're going to defend your home against the US government is a fantasy (drones!).

Nnanji -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:23:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The First Amendment prevents Congress from infringing on freedom of speech or freedom of the press. In this particular instance, these are political rights which have nothing to do with the advance of technology. The Second Amendment prevents Congress from infringing on the right to bear arms. this is a political right which has nothing to do with the advance of technology. The right to bear arms is not a political right, it's a collective right of the citizenry for defense of the nation through "well regulated militias". It has absolutely zero to do with personal rights to keep arms in your home. This is why it speaks of "the people" collectively. Mind you, I have no objection to you and your fellow gun nuts arming yourselves with muskets. However I do wonder at what kind of people are so psychologically attached to weapons that they simply do not care how many of their fellow citizens die so they can continue to engage in what is basically a masturbatory power fantasy. Again, you're not reading the Supreme Court Heller decision which refutes everything you say here. I've posted the court findings on this thread. The whole "militia" idiocy was made up a couple of decades ago by leftists that needed an argument to take away people's fundamental rights and not sound fascistic while doing so. Nobody, including the leftists ever believed it...oh, except for the low information koolaide drinkers, which group id not generally put you in.

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:23:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or If there was an armed guard at the door that could have happened. T^T Right. Because a guy with an AR-15 is going to see an armed guard and go "oh... I'd better not, then." Or, alternatively, he shoots the guard first or perhaps tosses a grenade into the club first because your second amendment rights surely protect that. Or perhaps he'll bring an RPG to the club because your second amendment rights don't prohibit RPG's or machine guns. Insanity. Pure, fucking insanity.

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:25:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Again, you're not reading the Supreme Court Heller decision which refutes everything you say here. I've posted the court findings on this thread. The whole "militia" idiocy was made up a couple of decades ago by leftists that needed an argument to take away people's fundamental rights and not sound fascistic while doing so. Nobody, including the leftists ever believed it...oh, except for the low information koolaide drinkers, which group id not generally put you in. Heller was a fucking tragedy and Anton Scalia has fucking blood on his hands. I think Clinton is a piece of shit but the only reason I'll support her over Donald Drumpf is to get some fucking sane Justices on the Supreme Court. The current batch of Republicans are fucking nuts.

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:30:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness In the wake of which, Australia instituted wide-spread gun reform, a 300 million buy-back program and banned semi-automatic weapons. We implemented gun control and it worked. Period. Which is why the USA seems fucking insane. I would like to bring to your attention that Australia is an Island on it's own. Surrounded by seas! Not connected to any third world country. South America is like cesspit of corruption and guns and drugs that is connected to North America by land! Of course It is 10 times easier for Australia to have gun control, than the US! Because Australia has one of the best secured borders in the world, an Island on it's own, surrounded by seas. Whereas US probably has one of the worst borders in the world. It's not the border which is the problem, it's the nation's addiction to the power fantasy of the gun. quote: Just saying what worked for Australia will not work for the US, because they can't control their borders. Maybe they should build a wall. You know - to keep those fucking Canadians out. As Jim Jefferies has pointed out, the Bushmaster used by Adam Lanza at Sandy Hook costs around $35,000 dollars on the black market in Australia. If you have $35,000 dollars you probably don't need a gun - you need an investment advisor.

Staleek -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:30:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: "Islam for Dummies," "The Koran for Dummies" and "Arabic for Dummies" from Amazon before they left for Syria. And I bet those books are written by muslim apologists which has nothing but peaceful interpretations in it! Let me tell you what is one problem with Islam. The authentic book is in Arabic. But the English versions. Can have like 2 completely opposite translation of the same verse, depending on which English translation you wanna follow. I highly doubt a "dummy guide book", is following the one that most sharia law countries that follows the authentic and original arabic version, follows. So what proof is that exactly? You're missing the point Greta. Hate on Muslims all you like. It's clearly working out well for you and giving you a hobby etc, which is important. But if you want to be rational then you have to be able to look things without your own biases getting in the way. A lot of these people who do this crap, whether it is this Muslim shooting up a gay bar or that Christian who attacked a planned parenthood clinic a few weeks ago or that atheist in Finland who shot up a school actually don't understand the religion (or lack thereof) they claim to follow at all well. This fact has been scientifically verified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_to_Win#Ch._10:_The_Demographic_Profile_of_Suicide_Terrorists "Islamist fundamentalism may actually reduce the number of suicide terrorists by discouraging certain categories of individuals" Watch this. This guy is an atheist, a scientist, and objective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dc7iT75P2I&list=PL6377501CD4BABAFF It explains the Jihad in more depth than you will ever see in The Mail or on Fox. Religious adherence is a negative predictor of being involved in any form of terrorism. Random attacks like this are the result of psychopathy/sociopathy, and a brief moment of rage. The issue there is easy access to deadly weapons during those moments. Terrorism is result of political pressures which galvanize people (almost always young men) around a certain cause whilst giving them a reason to fight and to die (there is, psychologically, very little difference between a terrorist willing to die for a cause and soldier willing to die for his country, they both see the world the same). The issue there is normally the total lack of balance between those on either side of the flashpoint (so Israeli vs Palestinian, or England vs Ulster, or Kurds vs Turks etc).

Nnanji -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:32:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Again, you're not reading the Supreme Court Heller decision which refutes everything you say here. I've posted the court findings on this thread. The whole "militia" idiocy was made up a couple of decades ago by leftists that needed an argument to take away people's fundamental rights and not sound fascistic while doing so. Nobody, including the leftists ever believed it...oh, except for the low information koolaide drinkers, which group id not generally put you in. Heller was a fucking tragedy and Anton Scalia has fucking blood on his hands. I think Clinton is a piece of shit but the only reason I'll support her over Donald Drumpf is to get some fucking sane Justices on the Supreme Court. The current batch of Republicans are fucking nuts. Well, we disagree. Is also say that Scalia would probably laugh at your description and revel in it. I'd point out that his perspective was certainly less deviant than some of the perspectives projected here by a few hateful leftists.

Greta75 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:40:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness It's not the border which is the problem, it's the nation's addiction to the power fantasy of the gun. I am neither pro-guns or anti-guns. I see both side of the arguments. I am happy being gun free in my country because I trust my government to keep the guns away from bad guys and also, all our cops walk around with guns. They are the only one going around with guns all the time, and yet we feel safe and never once feel like the cops will abuse those guns. It's a very different culture and different vibe. It works for us. But with the US, I want to look at a realistic solution for them. So it's exactly this problem. There is a huge nation addiction to guns and whatever gun sport there is. Also a huge nation distrust of authority. That make people wanna cling on to their guns more as they feel safer with guns. And they do have a border crisis. quote: As Jim Jefferies has pointed out, the Bushmaster used by Adam Lanza at Sandy Hook costs around $35,000 dollars on the black market in Australia. If you have $35,000 dollars you probably don't need a gun - you need an investment advisor. Because Australia is in the middle of the ocean and I wonder which country they need to illegally import that gun from, for it to cost that much, and also the difficulty level of getting it through Australia super crazy strict customs. US has easier neighbours to have illegal access to guns IF it was banned. And it would be much cheaper for them to get illegal guns.

Greta75 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 7:52:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 A head shot from a distance ? Now that's a good idea except for the fact that the place was like the crowd scene from Ben Hur and they would have been milling about like mad rabbits. If he took that head shot and missed, who would have collected it ?And remember, there is just a slim chance that the gunman just might not have stood still to wait for that shot. I like Bamas idea of a bulletproof cubicle by the door and after this shit-fight, I can see large crowd venues might just pick up on the idea. Oh ya. I got a question. We had a local incident. Basically, US officials were here on I can't remember what conference at the Shangrila hotel. What happened was 2 Muslim dudes in a car, drove through shangrila barriers, and refuse to stop for security check. So what happened was, the police actually managed to head shot the driver and kill him instantly. With a hand gun, and I think Singapore police uses like the most archaic old fashioned hand guns ever. That's like moving vehicle, with glass as barrier and yet it was like a successful headshot to the driver. But they never shot the guy in the passenger seat though, so they were just aiming for the driver. And the guy in the passenger seat survived to tell their story. The reason I have high belief in police capability of shooting a moving target is because of this real incident that happen. Seems to be a complicated shot! Do you think taking this shot is easier than for example attempting to shoot a mad gun man from the back? (Anyway, in this case, it turn out the Muslims were not terrorists trying to attack the hotel, but simply 2 guys on high on drugs and driving, but they gate crash a high security event with high terrorism alert, so..., oh well.)

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:00:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness For fuck's sake there is a clear differential between military armaments and civilian and NO, the founders did not intend for civilians to be armed with military weapons and using predator drones for home defense you insufferable fucking moron. I believe you're wrong about the founders belief and would ask you for a citation? The Second amendment is a) Specific to a well-regulated militia and b) a collective right, not a personal right. The militia is significant because the founding fathers regarded standing armies as "engines of oppression". They distrusted the very notion of a standing army and felt that a disciplined organisational unit made up of citizens was an important component of the collective defense. Basically, they were afraid of a military coup. Article II, Section 8, Line 15 of the Constitution says that Congress has the power "to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions". In other words, the Militia is a component of the national defense including defending the people against any who rebel against the government. Line 16 says, "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress." The second amendment provides for the participation of citizens IN that militia. It is not a right to arm yourself with a molotov and firebomb your neighbour's house because his dog keeps you up at night. The "well-regulated militia" is known as the National Guard. Not "The National Guard of the United States" which is part of the military. All members of the National Guard are automatically members of the militia of the United States SPECIFICALLY spoken of in the Constitution as specified in Title 10 of the United States Code. If you're not part of the militia of the United States, then the second amendment simply does not apply to you.

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:02:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 A head shot from a distance ? Now that's a good idea except for the fact that the place was like the crowd scene from Ben Hur and they would have been milling about like mad rabbits. If he took that head shot and missed, who would have collected it ?And remember, there is just a slim chance that the gunman just might not have stood still to wait for that shot. I like Bamas idea of a bulletproof cubicle by the door and after this shit-fight, I can see large crowd venues might just pick up on the idea. Oh ya. I got a question. We had a local incident. Basically, US officials were here on I can't remember what conference at the Shangrila hotel. What happened was 2 Muslim dudes in a car, drove through shangrila barriers, and refuse to stop for security check. So what happened was, the police actually managed to head shot the driver and kill him instantly. With a hand gun, and I think Singapore police uses like the most archaic old fashioned hand guns ever. That's like moving vehicle, with glass as barrier and yet it was like a successful headshot to the driver. But they never shot the guy in the passenger seat though, so they were just aiming to for the driver. And the guy in the passenger seat survived to tell their story. The reason I have high belief in police capability of shooting a moving target is because of this real incident that happen. Seems to be a complicated shot! Do you think taking this shot is easier than for example attempting to shoot a mad gun man from the back? (Anyway, in this case, it turn out the Muslims were not terrorists trying to attack the hotel, but simply 2 guys on high on drugs and driving, but they gate crash a high security event with high terrorism alert, so..., oh well.) Headshots exist in video-games, movies and in the lives of professional snipers. Period. Law enforcement is taught to aim at the centre of body mass - because hitting a moving target with a gun is a lot more difficult than it looks in the movies.

Nnanji -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:09:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 A head shot from a distance ? Now that's a good idea except for the fact that the place was like the crowd scene from Ben Hur and they would have been milling about like mad rabbits. If he took that head shot and missed, who would have collected it ?And remember, there is just a slim chance that the gunman just might not have stood still to wait for that shot. I like Bamas idea of a bulletproof cubicle by the door and after this shit-fight, I can see large crowd venues might just pick up on the idea. Oh ya. I got a question. We had a local incident. Basically, US officials were here on I can't remember what conference at the Shangrila hotel. What happened was 2 Muslim dudes in a car, drove through shangrila barriers, and refuse to stop for security check. So what happened was, the police actually managed to head shot the driver and kill him instantly. With a hand gun, and I think Singapore police uses like the most archaic old fashioned hand guns ever. That's like moving vehicle, with glass as barrier and yet it was like a successful headshot to the driver. But they never shot the guy in the passenger seat though, so they were just aiming to for the driver. And the guy in the passenger seat survived to tell their story. The reason I have high belief in police capability of shooting a moving target is because of this real incident that happen. Seems to be a complicated shot! Do you think taking this shot is easier than for example attempting to shoot a mad gun man from the back? (Anyway, in this case, it turn out the Muslims were not terrorists trying to attack the hotel, but simply 2 guys on high on drugs and driving, but they gate crash a high security event with high terrorism alert, so..., oh well.) Headshots exist in video-games, movies and in the lives of professional snipers. Period. Law enforcement is taught to aim at the centre of body mass - because hitting a moving target with a gun is a lot more difficult than it looks in the movies. Greta, from my personal observations and discussions with Singapore police, most Singapore cops carry old Smith and Wesson .38 special revolvers. Those pretty much went out of fashion in the U.S. During the '40's and '50's. Awareness, when a person is driving a car and a cop is outside shooting at him, pretty much all the cop has is a head shot because the car covers center of mass.

Greta75 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:10:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness Headshots exist in video-games, movies and in the lives of professional snipers. Period. Law enforcement is taught to aim at the centre of body mass - because hitting a moving target with a gun is a lot more difficult than it looks in the movies. This is a true story. They had a brilliant accurate head shot in this case with an archaic gun. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/shangri-la-shooting-police-identify-man-shot-dead-and-two-arrested

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:13:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Awareness, when a person is driving a car and a cop is outside shooting at him, pretty much all the cop has is a head shot because the car covers center of mass. Look, I hate to break this to you, but car doors don't stop bullets. All those movies you see where people are crouching behind cars? Useless. Unless it's the President's car which is basically a tank.

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:15:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness Headshots exist in video-games, movies and in the lives of professional snipers. Period. Law enforcement is taught to aim at the centre of body mass - because hitting a moving target with a gun is a lot more difficult than it looks in the movies. This is a true story. They had a brilliant accurate head shot in this case with an archaic gun. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/shangri-la-shooting-police-identify-man-shot-dead-and-two-arrested Bullet hole was in the windscreen - he was probably shot by someone straight ahead of him.

Nnanji -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:15:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness For fuck's sake there is a clear differential between military armaments and civilian and NO, the founders did not intend for civilians to be armed with military weapons and using predator drones for home defense you insufferable fucking moron. I believe you're wrong about the founders belief and would ask you for a citation? The Second amendment is a) Specific to a well-regulated militia and b) a collective right, not a personal right. The militia is significant because the founding fathers regarded standing armies as "engines of oppression". They distrusted the very notion of a standing army and felt that a disciplined organisational unit made up of citizens was an important component of the collective defense. Basically, they were afraid of a military coup. Article II, Section 8, Line 15 of the Constitution says that Congress has the power "to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions". In other words, the Militia is a component of the national defense including defending the people against any who rebel against the government. Line 16 says, "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress." The second amendment provides for the participation of citizens IN that militia. It is not a right to arm yourself with a molotov and firebomb your neighbour's house because his dog keeps you up at night. The "well-regulated militia" is known as the National Guard. Not "The National Guard of the United States" which is part of the military. All members of the National Guard are automatically members of the militia of the United States SPECIFICALLY spoken of in the Constitution as specified in Title 10 of the United States Code. If you're not part of the militia of the United States, then the second amendment simply does not apply to you. What you're saying, again is a, made up from whole cloth, argument of the left in order to make fascism safe and palatable to people. Legal scholars have discussed it for years and it's easy to google the errors in your thinking. For example, your interpretation would make the 2nd amendment the absolute only part of the constitution that was interpreted in that manner and with that English usage. Applying that logic to the rest of the constitution would significantly change the entire thing. When you apply common English usage used in the other parts of the constitution to the 2nd amendment your entire thesis falls apart. But, as I said, we disagree and you have your opinion.

Nnanji -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:17:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Staleek quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: "Islam for Dummies," "The Koran for Dummies" and "Arabic for Dummies" from Amazon before they left for Syria. And I bet those books are written by muslim apologists which has nothing but peaceful interpretations in it! Let me tell you what is one problem with Islam. The authentic book is in Arabic. But the English versions. Can have like 2 completely opposite translation of the same verse, depending on which English translation you wanna follow. I highly doubt a "dummy guide book", is following the one that most sharia law countries that follows the authentic and original arabic version, follows. So what proof is that exactly? You're missing the point Greta. Hate on Muslims all you like. It's clearly working out well for you and giving you a hobby etc, which is important. But if you want to be rational then you have to be able to look things without your own biases getting in the way. A lot of these people who do this crap, whether it is this Muslim shooting up a gay bar or that Christian who attacked a planned parenthood clinic a few weeks ago or that atheist in Finland who shot up a school actually don't understand the religion (or lack thereof) they claim to follow at all well. This fact has been scientifically verified: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_to_Win#Ch._10:_The_Demographic_Profile_of_Suicide_Terrorists "Islamist fundamentalism may actually reduce the number of suicide terrorists by discouraging certain categories of individuals" Watch this. This guy is an atheist, a scientist, and objective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dc7iT75P2I&list=PL6377501CD4BABAFF It explains the Jihad in more depth than you will ever see in The Mail or on Fox. Religious adherence is a negative predictor of being involved in any form of terrorism. Random attacks like this are the result of psychopathy/sociopathy, and a brief moment of rage. The issue there is easy access to deadly weapons during those moments. Terrorism is result of political pressures which galvanize people (almost always young men) around a certain cause whilst giving them a reason to fight and to die (there is, psychologically, very little difference between a terrorist willing to die for a cause and soldier willing to die for his country, they both see the world the same). The issue there is normally the total lack of balance between those on either side of the flashpoint (so Israeli vs Palestinian, or England vs Ulster, or Kurds vs Turks etc). Wow...scientifically proven religious facts. That's absolutely better than settle climate change science.

bigjb62 -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 8:20:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: bigjb62 Sadly, because of the prevailing PC culture and desire to avoid offending radical Muslims that runs rampant through President Barack Obama’s administration, an investigation that could have led to a shut down of radical mosques and the arrest of real and potential terrorists was ended before it could do any good. I do not know where the phoque you are from but here in amerika it is illegal to arrest someone for being a potential terrorist. I'm not so sure you your are correct as PC stupidity often times trumps good laws. Here are examples of children being arrested for no good reason. #1 At one public school down in Texas, a 12-year-old girl named Sarah Bustamantes was recently arrested for spraying herself with perfume. #2 A 13-year-old student at a school in Albuquerque, New Mexico was recently arrested by police for burping in class. #3 Another student down in Albuquerque was forced to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched because he had $200 in his pocket. The student was never formally charged with doing anything wrong. #4 A security guard at one school in California broke the arm of a 16-year-old girl because she left some crumbs on the floor after cleaning up some cake that she had spilled. #5 One teenage couple down in Houston poured milk on each other during a squabble while they were breaking up. Instead of being sent to see the principal, they were arrested and sent to court. #6 In early 2010, a 12-year-old girl at a school in Forest Hills, New York was arrested by police and marched out of her school in handcuffs just because she doodled on her desk. “I love my friends Abby and Faith” was what she reportedly scribbled on her desk. #7 A 6-year-old girl down in Florida was handcuffed and sent to a mental facility after throwing temper tantrums at her elementary school. #8 One student down in Texas was reportedly arrested by police for throwing paper airplanes in class. #9 A 17-year-old honor student in North Carolina named Ashley Smithwick accidentally took her father’s lunch with her to school. It contained a small paring knife which he would use to slice up apples. So what happened to this standout student when the school discovered this? The school suspended her for the rest of the year and the police charged her with a misdemeanor. #10 In Allentown, Pennsylvania a 14-year-old girl was tasered in the groin area by a school security officer even though she had put up her hands in the air to surrender. #11 Down in Florida, an 11-year-old student was arrested, thrown in jail and charged with a third-degree felony for bringing a plastic butter knife to school. #12 Back in 2009, an 8-year-old boy in Massachusetts was sent home from school and was forced to undergo a psychological evaluation because he drew a picture of Jesus on the cross. #13 A police officer in San Mateo, California blasted a 7-year-old special education student in the face with pepper spray because he would not quit climbing on the furniture. #14 In America today, even 5-year-old children are treated brutally by police. The following is from a recent article that described what happened to one very young student in Stockton, California a while back…. Earlier this year, a Stockton student was handcuffed with zip ties on his hands and feet, forced to go to the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation and was charged with battery on a police officer. That student was 5 years old. #15 At one school in Connecticut, a 17-year-old boy was thrown to the floor and tasered five times because he was yelling at a cafeteria worker. #16 A teenager in suburban Dallas was forced to take on a part-time job after being ticketed for using foul language in one high school classroom. The original ticket was for $340, but additional fees have raised the total bill to $637. #17 A few months ago, police were called out when a little girl kissed a little boy during a physical education class at an elementary school down in Florida. #18 A 6-year-old boy was recently charged with sexual battery for some “inappropriate touching” during a game of tag at one elementary school in the San Francisco area. #19 In Massachusetts, police were recently sent out to collect an overdue library book from a 5-year-old girl. It's sad that the police can go after children for such stupid things but terrorist can run rampant in the US and other countries and in a lot cases are allowed to kill innocent people. Our government is failing in so many ways to protect us while at the same time taking away our ability to protect ourselves.

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