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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Islam has as much history as Christianity and Judaism, CONSIDERING, Islam is just another cultist religion out of Christianity. All Muslims believe that the old testament happen exactly the way it is. And all Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet of Allah. Just they don't believe his God in human form. So that excuse does not fly. They are not new. They were Christians who refuse to believe Jesus is the human form of God. And broke off from other Christians to form Islam, a new "Christian" religion who believes that Jesus is not God but just a prophet of God.

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1. The Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church Shooting

Jim David Adkisson, a devout Christian and anti-abortion right-winger, walked into a Knoxville church on July 27th, 2008, and began firing a shotgun at children who were performing Annie Jr. He killed two and wounded seven, targeting “the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country.”

2. The Campaign of Terror Against Abortion Doctors

In 1993, Dr. Richard Gunn was shot dead by an anti-abortion protester. In 1994, Drs. John Britton and James Barrett were shot to death by Reverend Paul Jennings. In 1998, Dr. Barnett Sleipan was shot dead in his home by a Christian terrorist. In 2009, Dr. George Tiller was shot by Scott Roeder in a church. The ability for Christian right-wingers to justify cold-blooded murder in the name of their pro-life beliefs is a colossal hypocrisy worthy of a terrorist group like ISIS. According to the National Abortion Federation, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded, 100 butyric acid attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers since 1977. Terrorist groups like the Taliban and ISIS are very fond of acid attacks and chemical weapons like anthrax; apparently Christian right-wing terrorists share that same preference.

3. The 1995 Oklahoma City Bombings

Timothy McVeigh, America’s most notorious domestic terrorist, was obsessed with the Seventh-Day Aventist splinter group known as the Branch Davidians, who resisted an ATF raid on their citadel at Mount Carmel in 1993. He travelled to Waco, Texas during the Waco Siege and heavily supported the religious extremists within it. Two years later, he detonated a fertilizer bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing a hundred and sixty-eight people, including nineteen children, and wounded 648 others. This Christian specifically targeted innocent civilians and committed horrific acts of violence to make his political point heard – something Mr. Huckabee believes he should be incapable of, since he’s not a Muslim.

4. Everything The Ku Klux Klan Has Ever Done

Since its creation after the American Civil War, the Ku Klux Klan has been terrorizing Americans in the name of Protestantism and racial purity. Known for their terrifying costumes and hoods, they wrought have fear and violence against blacks, Jews, immigrants, gays, and Catholics for hundreds of years, responsible for countless massacres, lynchings, rapes, and bombings that have killed thousands. In the modern day, it still has a membership of 5,000 to 8,000 terrorists that operate in individual chapters. Just two weeks ago, Frazier Glenn Cross, the leader of the Carolina Knights of the KKK, was sentenced to death by lethal injection for murdering a fourteen year old girl and two seniors outside the Overland Park Jewish Community Center in Kansas City. The man gave the Hitler salute during his trial and declared that “Jews are destroying the white race.” None of his victims were Jewish.

5. The Massacre At Zion Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C.

On Wednesday, June 17th of this year, a man rose from a pew in the historically black Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, SC, and opened fire with a .45 caliber pistol, killing nine worshipers, including pastor and State Senator Clementa Pickiney. The shooter has been photographed wearing patches representing the racist apartheid regimes in Southwest Africa, had a Confederate license plate on his vehicle. All signs points to this being a hate crime- not only is it the oldest black church in the South, it was a symbol of resistance against slavery, and a survivor reported that the shooter yelled ‘I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.” Roof was a member of a local Lutheran church, yet somehow his baptism didn’t prevent him from gunning down innocent people in a house of worship, defiling a sacred place with hate and murder.

Those are in the numbers for you as a head start, prove the rest were shinto or buddhist or whatever.
But they are non-muslim, and that means not muslim. Here is the stats on the USA, it should be trivial to prove that they did not nominally belong to a church in their life, never confirmed, or I guess you knew them all to be jews? Must be pretty easy for you to deliver us facts on, but then you never have any.

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874
So what should Australia do to reduce crime DS ? Ban criminals ? I think something along those lines has already been done. you probably have similar laws in the U.S.
Gun crimes dropped. Surely that's a plus ? Crime overall may or may NOT have dropped but at least nobody was getting shot/killed while those crimes were being committed. Not so much of a plus but still a plus in my eyes.

And, that's a difference between you and me (and I'm sure a whole lot of others line up behind us). I'm more concerned with crime reduction than what weapon is used to commit a crime.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

What islamic terrorists were those, which 2000? Prove it, welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee, nobody except you has stated that he said OKC was acceptable welfare patient, prove I said that. None of those are specified in the 18th century shiteater and RIF boy, You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

That is not at all true.
I know that at least at one time it was legal to carry concealed in WV in bars

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

What islamic terrorists were those, which 2000? Prove it, welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee, nobody except you has stated that he said OKC was acceptable welfare patient, prove I said that. None of those are specified in the 18th century shiteater and RIF boy, You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

...welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee...welfare patient...shiteater and RIF boy...You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

People are too emotionally unstable to be walking around with death in their pockets. The idea that this is a constitutional right is insane and the idea that you're going to defend your home against the US government is a fantasy (drones!).

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

a whole shitload of them lovmuffin. I could acquire a light machine gun with magazines or belt, within a day or so and there is no way in the world it would cost $35,000. Whoever came up with that figure wouldn't know his ass from his elbow. A reasonable ( though old) SKS is going for about $4000.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

What islamic terrorists were those, which 2000? Prove it, welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee, nobody except you has stated that he said OKC was acceptable welfare patient, prove I said that. None of those are specified in the 18th century shiteater and RIF boy, You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

Typo, 2001

I have never said my father was Ed Gien another stupid lie on your part.
Prove I ever said anything like that.

You talked about the whole history of the Klan, since (like many other things) you are unaware of this, I will point out that the Klan started out in the 19th century.

In 1906 my Great Grandfather was a chief of police.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

...welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee...welfare patient...shiteater and RIF boy...You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

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hey moderators---could it be any more clear? why is this guy allowed to stay?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

What islamic terrorists were those, which 2000? Prove it, welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee, nobody except you has stated that he said OKC was acceptable welfare patient, prove I said that. None of those are specified in the 18th century shiteater and RIF boy, You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

I said 19th century, not 18th.


Can't find where you said this.
However there must be further considerations than just that it is center fire.
Otherwise a .25 acp is legal for hunting, are you going to tell us all now what an incrediblely powerful gun that is.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

What islamic terrorists were those, which 2000? Prove it, welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee, nobody except you has stated that he said OKC was acceptable welfare patient, prove I said that. None of those are specified in the 18th century shiteater and RIF boy, You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

Typo, 2001

I have never said my father was Ed Gien another stupid lie on your part.
Prove I ever said anything like that.

You talked about the whole history of the Klan, since (like many other things) you are unaware of this, I will point out that the Klan started out in the 19th century.

In 1906 my Great Grandfather was a chief of police.

A chief of police in the klan? You might happen to not know (certainly not suprising) that the klan was murdering people even in my lifetime, and that would include your pathetic marginal existence.

You have already proven yourself to be a cretin and a liar repeatedly. So, go back to wiggling your dick at the pizza boy.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

What islamic terrorists were those, which 2000? Prove it, welfare patient. I dont know why you are cockgargling Huckabee, nobody except you has stated that he said OKC was acceptable welfare patient, prove I said that. None of those are specified in the 18th century shiteater and RIF boy, You are a sad ignorant fuckwhistle, it is sad that your father is Ed Gein as you have told us repeatedly. You are a miserable toiletlickiong dickwiggler.

I said 19th century, not 18th.


Can't find where you said this.
However there must be further considerations than just that it is center fire.
Otherwise a .25 acp is legal for hunting, are you going to tell us all now what an incrediblely powerful gun that is.

No, unless you are telling us what an incredible shiteater you are. I dont see anything in your laws for instance, beyond center fire, so that means you can hunt with a .17, the only modification is if it is air powered, it has to be .30 cal or bigger. So, are you going to tell us what an incredible shiteater you are, or give up your lies and strawmen finally and admit you are a cretin and an uninformed nutsucker?

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

yes, let's get back to the values and moral system of past...............maybe the Condotierri of Italy ? Or the Viking berserkers ? Or maybe the mau-mau? Or maybe those upright citizens who robbed raped, pillaged and murdered the native americans back in the 19th century ? How far do you want to go back to find the moral system and values you seek CG ?