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DesideriScuri -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 2:26:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
One problem with asking Republican delegates to vote their consciences is that their consciences were purchased years ago by the NRA.


Has the NRA also purchased the consciences of GOP representatives' constituents? Maybe, just maybe, the GOP representatives are accurately representing their constituents?




DesideriScuri -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 2:29:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Handguns are used to commit almost 2/3 of all murders. Handguns. Why the hate for rifles and "assault weapons?"

Actually, it was 91% in 2014 in cases where the weapon was identified.
Murder Victims by Weapon
K.


Right. Of all the gun murders, handguns were about 68% (close enough to 2/3) at, like 5,500 or so, and almost 2,000 cases where the gun type wasn't identified. Something tells me that at least some of those unidentified types are handguns.




BamaD -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 4:06:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
We think nothing (or at least the media don't) of greatly inconveniencing millions of passengers on a daily basis for everyday business and pleasure travel.


Maybe you think nothing of it.



Do you insist on being the biggest dullwit on the planet? There is no one but you who would possibly interpret what I said, how I said it, as my 'thinking nothing of it.' Well OK, one or two others, maybe.


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The argument often bleated by the anti-control crowd is that "guns don't kill people," one of the most idiotic slogans ever spoken.
The whole idea behind limited access (and that's all it's ever been), is to isolate those 'innocent guns' from at least some of those less-than-innocent prospective possessors of same.



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That's only because you don't understand the slogan. Walk into a gun store.


So, if non-gun owners were to walk into a gun store and see all the signs saying "weapons that won't kill anybody! for sale!" we might get a better grasp of things? I'll have to check that out.


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How many people are killed each year by "assault weapons" at the hands of civilians? What about pistols? Rifles? Shotguns?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

And quite a few others.

The majority of mass murders involve rifles, shotguns, military weapons of great variety.

Most 'normal' crimes or occasional defense from crime involve only hand guns.

Do you have the stats on how many homes were defended with military rifles vs. hand guns?

Oh, wait! Yes, I almost didn't get your point, there;

As long as the murders from mundane crime exceed the number of victims of mass murderers with army rifles, there's no need to regulate control of army rifles or shot guns, right? The mass murders by assault weapons, rifles, and shot guns being nothing more than a "cost of doing business" in defending the home with defensive small arms, right? So we're good to go on un-limitation of sale of large weapons by not hindering access to those any more than we limit the regular citizen looking for home defense buying a good pistol. Good to know.

"Gangsters and nut jobs are people, too!," as they say.





Your belief that the majority of murders are committed with long guns prove that you get your information from sites that lie to you to gain your support.




BamaD -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 4:08:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

not surprising:

[image]http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2016/6/18/1.png[/image]

How could 21% of any group think this is anything other than Islamic terrorism.




Musicmystery -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 4:14:40 PM)

By going by factual information instead of "perceptions" "from what they know or have heard"?

If you think it -- it doesn't just materialize.

That's how.




Edwird -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 5:28:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: Edwird
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Edwird
We think nothing (or at least the media don't) of greatly inconveniencing millions of passengers on a daily basis for everyday business and pleasure travel.

Maybe you think nothing of it.

Do you insist on being the biggest dullwit on the planet? There is no one but you who would possibly interpret what I said, how I said it, as my 'thinking nothing of it.' Well OK, one or two others, maybe.
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The argument often bleated by the anti-control crowd is that "guns don't kill people," one of the most idiotic slogans ever spoken.
The whole idea behind limited access (and that's all it's ever been), is to isolate those 'innocent guns' from at least some of those less-than-innocent prospective possessors of same.

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That's only because you don't understand the slogan. Walk into a gun store.


So, if non-gun owners were to walk into a gun store and see all the signs saying "weapons that won't kill anybody! for sale!" we might get a better grasp of things? I'll have to check that out.
quote:

How many people are killed each year by "assault weapons" at the hands of civilians? What about pistols? Rifles? Shotguns?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

And quite a few others.

The majority of mass murders involve rifles, shotguns, military weapons of great variety.

Most 'normal' crimes or occasional defense from crime involve only hand guns.

Do you have the stats on how many homes were defended with military rifles vs. hand guns?

Oh, wait! Yes, I almost didn't get your point, there;

As long as the murders from mundane crime exceed the number of victims of mass murderers with army rifles, there's no need to regulate control of army rifles or shot guns, right? The mass murders by assault weapons, rifles, and shot guns being nothing more than a "cost of doing business" in defending the home with defensive small arms, right? So we're good to go on un-limitation of sale of large weapons by not hindering access to those any more than we limit the regular citizen looking for home defense buying a good pistol. Good to know.

"Gangsters and nut jobs are people, too!," as they say.

Your belief that the majority of murders are committed with long guns prove that you get your information from sites that lie to you to gain your support.



Well, actually, I neither said nor implied any such thing.

What is it about unfathomably stupid people that makes them want to continuously display that phenomenal stupidity to the world?

Along with fundamental stupid, do they have something like a built-in 'stupid beacon' gene?







DesideriScuri -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 6:08:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
not surprising:
[image]http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2016/6/18/1.png[/image]

How could 21% of any group think this is anything other than Islamic terrorism.


I don't really think this is due to Islamic terrorism; at least not the primary reason. I think this guy couldn't deal with his repressed homosexuality (and it was repressed due to his religious beliefs) and was a couple beers shy of a 12-pack.





Edwird -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 6:09:03 PM)


Including (or especially) the other idiot.




cloudboy -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 6:09:37 PM)


Don't tell you you support the sale of military grade assault weapons to the civilian population.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 6:18:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Don't tell you you support the sale of military grade assault weapons to the civilian population.


I won't tell you that.

I'm not sure how you even fathomed to leap to that conclusion.




BamaD -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 8:02:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
not surprising:
[image]http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2016/6/18/1.png[/image]

How could 21% of any group think this is anything other than Islamic terrorism.


I don't really think this is due to Islamic terrorism; at least not the primary reason. I think this guy couldn't deal with his repressed homosexuality (and it was repressed due to his religious beliefs) and was a couple beers shy of a 12-pack.



I disagree




BamaD -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 8:04:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Don't tell you you support the sale of military grade assault weapons to the civilian population.

Military grade assault weapons are not sold to the civilian population no matter how many times MSNBC repeats it.




ifmaz -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 8:42:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Don't tell you you support the sale of military grade assault weapons to the civilian population.

Military grade assault weapons are not sold to the civilian population no matter how many times MSNBC repeat it.


I really wish they were, though. Ideally without the NFA wait times.




lovmuffin -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/20/2016 9:39:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Don't tell you you support the sale of military grade assault weapons to the civilian population.

Military grade assault weapons are not sold to the civilian population no matter how many times MSNBC repeat it.


I really wish they were, though. Ideally without the NFA wait times.


And without the artificially high price tag.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/21/2016 6:00:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
How could 21% of any group think this is anything other than Islamic terrorism.

I don't really think this is due to Islamic terrorism; at least not the primary reason. I think this guy couldn't deal with his repressed homosexuality (and it was repressed due to his religious beliefs) and was a couple beers shy of a 12-pack.

I disagree


I'm perfectly okay with that.




thompsonx -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/21/2016 10:30:37 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: Edwird


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The majority of mass murders involve rifles, shotguns, military weapons of great variety.

Most 'normal' crimes or occasional defense from crime involve only hand guns.


Your belief that the majority of murders are committed with long guns prove that you get your information from sites that lie to you to gain your support.


With his statement in front of us we can see clearly that you are lying. He never said that...He said the "majority of mass murders". Once again we see what a lying punk you are who will say anything no matter how outlandish just to try and score points.




BamaD -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/22/2016 1:11:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: Edwird


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The majority of mass murders involve rifles, shotguns, military weapons of great variety.

Most 'normal' crimes or occasional defense from crime involve only hand guns.


Your belief that the majority of murders are committed with long guns prove that you get your information from sites that lie to you to gain your support.


With his statement in front of us we can see clearly that you are lying. He never said that...He said the "majority of mass murders". Once again we see what a lying punk you are who will say anything no matter how outlandish just to try and score points.


Thanks Gomer.




Staleek -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/22/2016 5:01:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

Well, actually, I neither said nor implied any such thing.

What is it about unfathomably stupid people that makes them want to continuously display that phenomenal stupidity to the world?

Along with fundamental stupid, do they have something like a built-in 'stupid beacon' gene?



[My Bold]

Not quite. Not a "stupid" gene but a "fear" gene.

http://www.browndailyherald.com/2013/02/08/study-links-genetics-of-fear-and-conservative-politics/





thompsonx -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/22/2016 6:26:05 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

Thanks Gomer.


You are welcom homer.




subrob1967 -> RE: Breaking News on Gun Control (6/22/2016 6:50:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: Edwird


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The majority of mass murders involve rifles, shotguns, military weapons of great variety.

Most 'normal' crimes or occasional defense from crime involve only hand guns.


Your belief that the majority of murders are committed with long guns prove that you get your information from sites that lie to you to gain your support.


With his statement in front of us we can see clearly that you are lying. He never said that...He said the "majority of mass murders". Once again we see what a lying punk you are who will say anything no matter how outlandish just to try and score points.


Thanks Gomer.


You know what other thing these mass murders have in common? They're perpetrated by Democrats... I say we ban Democrats.




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