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Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 10:06:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, this is a tongue-in-check post, and yes, I know it will quickly degenerate into semantic arguments, name-calling, and a lot of boasting about (unsupportable here beyond people's say-so) firearm prowess.

Nonetheless . . .

If people need semi-automatics for home defense, hunting, even to stop a shooter . . . seems to mean they are really poor shots. All of these applications could be done with a single shot, or at least with time load a second. (Unless, I suppose, you're hunting something massive).

I have a lot of friends and neighbors with firearms for defense and, more commonly, hunting. None of these people need multiple shots to take down their target. And none of them are bitching about gun control.

So why are the vocal anti-regulation folks such terrible shots that they need to spray bullets to hit anything?

Let the circus begin.



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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 10:07:37 AM   
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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 10:14:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		According to the ultimate male archetype (Brock Samson) guns are actually fruity and aren't used by real men.

Oddly the desire to own a gun does seem to often coincide with the need to think of oneself as a tough guy, which is incredibly ironic.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 10:18:10 AM   
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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 12:02:50 PM   
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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 12:25:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once you get good at killing paper that stands still at a known distance in a well lit room, every factor in a real world shooting situation degrades your aim. Low light/dark, smoke, getting the gun out of the holster and on target (approximately), stress, a target that won't stand still or brings friends, hits that don't kill. I have a .45 at 12+1 that I'd call good for 4 or fewer home invaders, which fortunately is about how many you usually get. If I don't have to shoot them at all, fine with me, but if they're particularly determined, I have it covered. I sure don't want to be standing there with my dick in my hand after I've missed the first shot.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 12:30:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL. If you fire a .45 in your house once (have you ever done it?) you will not need to fire again, hit or miss.

The perps will be unbuttoning the buttons on their shirt to get closer to the floor. Half the door casing will be blown away. Everyone will be deaf and their eardrums will be very painful.

A palatial room is maybe as much as 16 feet in the longest direction.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 1:02:50 PM   
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I personally think that high schools should teach gun safety courses.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 1:07:35 PM   
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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 1:17:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		When we were kids the NRA taught gun safety courses in our town, for a minimal charge, I believe at 12 years old. I believe they still do. The difference is, every girl and boy went to them, it was required by parents, much like confirmation schools (note: Huge crisis of concience when they changed it from Tuesday School to Wednesday School) whether you were ever going to shoot a gun again in your life or not, as I remember it was a couple-three nights a week for two or three weeks. and it was like military arms training, you knew everything about those guns when you got done, and it was strict and you could not fuck off at all.

Some years later you needed to get a chit from the local sheriff to carry, if in the country, or the local cop to carry if you lived in town, all they required was a clean BCA (you know, no convicted felons and so on), and gun training. I told them I had it NRA at 12 but didnt have the card any more (they didnt care about the fact I gave classes on M1911s in the service) and they said, that's ok the state has those enrollments and completions. Now you gotta take a class (way less strenuous, often held at bars for a couple hours and shoot 4 shots at a target 12 feet away).

Yeah, bowling and archery was ok for gym classes, but I could easily lose the square dancing chunk of education for gun education.



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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 1:25:03 PM   
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LOL. If you fire a .45 in your house once (have you ever done it?) you will not need to fire again, hit or miss.

The perps will be unbuttoning the buttons on their shirt to get closer to the floor. Half the door casing will be blown away. Everyone will be deaf and their eardrums will be very painful.

That's why I keep my Peltors on the nightstand.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 1:29:09 PM   
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LOL. If you fire a .45 in your house once (have you ever done it?) you will not need to fire again, hit or miss.

The perps will be unbuttoning the buttons on their shirt to get closer to the floor. Half the door casing will be blown away. Everyone will be deaf and their eardrums will be very painful.

That's why I keep my Peltors on the nightstand.



Adds considerably to the time urgency element to keep virgin ears.


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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 3:18:15 PM   
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I personally think that high schools should teach gun safety courses.

Nice to see a rational statement on occasion, particularlly in a thread which is only here to ridicule anyone who thinks they might need something beyond a flintlock.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 3:38:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am just not so sure the founders knew what they were doing when all they had at the time were flintlocks.

Did they ever imagine a rifle that could fire 30 rounds in less than a minute just by 30 pulls and be reloaded in a few seconds ? (like the AR-15) I don't think so.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 3:51:24 PM   
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I personally think that high schools should teach gun safety courses.

Nice to see a rational statement on occasion, particularlly in a thread which is only here to ridicule anyone who thinks they might need something beyond a flintlock.

It's your inability to focus on a topic, always moving immediately to some bizarre exaggeration instead, that keeps you mock-worthy.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 3:58:29 PM   
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I personally think that high schools should teach gun safety courses.

Nice to see a rational statement on occasion, particularlly in a thread which is only here to ridicule anyone who thinks they might need something beyond a flintlock.

No, its here to ridicule ignorant nutsucker welfare patients. If you think you need something beyond a flintlock, just keep using your little peener to wiggle at the pizza boys.

Any rational statements you have seen on occasion do not emanate from nutsuckers and welfare patients.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 4:03:18 PM   
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I personally think that high schools should teach gun safety courses.


I agree. Also, that they should be armed.

I mean, not the teachers or other staff, or the kids - the high schools themselves. I see no reason why high schools shouldn't be afforded the rights of the 2nd just because they're inanimate objects. After all, inanimate objects have feelings, too.

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 4:15:14 PM   
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Le Tigre's reaction: “We have just won the most terrible war in history, yet here is a Frenchman who misses his target 6 out of 7 times at point-blank range. Of course this fellow must be punished for the careless use of a dangerous weapon and for poor marksmanship. I suggest that he be locked up for eight years, with intensive training in a shooting gallery."

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 4:32:56 PM   
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Adds considerably to the time urgency element to keep virgin ears.

How long does it take you to put on ear protection?

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RE: Why are anti-regulation folk such poor shots? - 6/20/2016 4:44:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't, I'm the guy shoots a .45 in my house and know about the ear pain, and can tell you about the rest of the story.



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