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eulero83 -> RE: Brexit Vote Results (6/24/2016 1:14:47 AM)
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
If the leave decision is enforced, no one really knows what happens next. However it does pose a number of interesting points such as:.
* Will the "leave the EU" feeling be exported onto mainland Europe? Could one or more other nations decide to opt out of the EU too?
In Italy yes it's already happening, expecially if in the next years UK doesn't collapse economically after opting out, the problem with this is many other nations are committed to the euro currency, so first we have to opt out from that. quote:
* Is this beginning of the end for the EU or will a UK exit strengthen the EU (by removing a Europe-reluctant UK, the commitment of the remaining EU members could be strengthened)
It depends by the actions of the european establishment, there are many anti-euro movements in many countries so it's not just the UK, and by the way all the major parties in uk were pro EU, here in Italy anti EU parties make 40% of the votes.quote:
* As Scotland voted heavily to remain, could the Scots choose to leave the UK and remain in the EU? Will a UK exit from the EU inflame nationalist sentiment in Scotland? (The Scots decided by a very small majority to remain in the UK not too long ago)
It seems so from some articles I read but the reason to secede from uk was to have more connections with the eu so in some ways who was against should remain opposedquote:
* Is this the end for Cameron as PM? It's hard to see how he can stay as he was heavily committed to the 'Remain' camp.
* What will be done to deal with the forces of hate which were prominent on the 'Leave" side of the argument?
* Is the trend towards resurgent nationalism and anti-immigrant feelings across Europe irreversible? Is the complete fragmentation of the EU into its member States a real possibility now?
About immigration: some should also point out that Austria and Germany closed their southern borders opting out the schengen treaty (that's basically what makes the EU a union) in order to stop immigrants from coming north, after the first months of syrian refugees crisis where they pictured themself as the good accepting countries the good will went out of the window as soon as they had to face the problems the southern countries faced for years, they decided that since it was not working for them it was better to pay turkey to deal with them, UK is the first immigration choice for EU citizens, I don't think the majority of british are racists or xenophobes but I assume probably as other nations they saw wages stagnate because of the number of peoples willing to work for a lower wage. The EU immigration policy for extracomunitary citizens is also a mess, you night have a job or be sponsored but if you are not from a country that has aviable quotas that job you needed will never be yours, this has the resoult of forcing people to try the illegal way or having others to come here with no real economical opportinities, so trying a different approach doesn't necessarely mean a wors or inhumane system. To get to your question it's not irreversible, as long as the governaments who are fast to label as racist to shut down any criticism to their policies on immigration and the problems they are causing.
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