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Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 7:19:44 AM   
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OK, A Scottish MP to start with and she turned him down with class... but depending on what you read, there is more than one MP being spammed.
Isnt this against FEC rules???

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-fundraising-email-mp-natalie-mcgarry-reply-warm-hope-his-repugnant-campaign-will-fail-a7108701.html

Billionaire Donald Trump appears to have asked a British MP for money for his American Presidential campaign – and got a stinging rebuke in return.

Glasgow East MP Natalie McGarry was amazed to receive an email apparently from Trump’s son mentioning an earlier message from his dad, accusing “Crooked Hillary” of “fraud and lies” and asking: “Please donate right now to help my father Make America Great Again.”

So she emailed back to say she would not be donating to Make America Great Again but would instead be sending her “warm hope” that Mr Trump’s “repugnant campaign” failed. Then she published both emails on Twitter for the enjoyment of her 16,000 followers.

here is her response...


From the torygraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/why-is-donald-trump-asking-british-mps-for-cash/

A number of British MPs – and their counterparts in Iceland and Australia – have been on the receiving end of “tedious” emails from Donald Trump’s team in recent days asking for campaign donations for the Republican presidential hopeful.

On Tuesday this week Conservative MP Roger Gale appealed to the Speaker of the Commons, saying: “Members of Parliament are being bombarded by electronic communications from Team Trump on behalf of somebody called Donald Trump.

“Mr Speaker, I’m all in favour of free speech but I don’t see why colleagues on either side of the House should be subjected to intemperate spam.

“Efforts to try to have these deleted have failed. I wonder if you’d be kind enough to intercede with the Digital Services Department to see if they may be blocked.”

In one of the spam emails, Trump pledges to personally match every dollar donated in a 48 hour period, making it the “most successful introductory fundraising email in modern political history”.

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Speaker John Bercow said in response: “May I commiserate with the Honourable Gentleman who has undergone as far as I can tell an irritating and some might think exceptionally tedious experience...

“All Honourable Members, I know, receive large numbers of emails and will have devised ways of dealing with the flow.

"However, while this is not directly a point of order for the chair, I do not think it is acceptable that Members should be bombarded with emails of which the content is offensive. I will ensure that Members of the Parliamentary Digital Service, who I know have the facility to block certain types of email, are made aware of this issue.”

From Fusion.net
http://fusion.net/story/319256/trump-emails-scotland-campaign-finance/

In recent days, as the U.K. pondered its future in the European Union and presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump waded in with a press conference on his Scottish golf course, the Scottish National Party’s 54 members of the British Parliament received multiple emails from Trump’s campaign, soliciting donations for his presidential bid — a possible violation of U.S. campaign finance laws, they say.

“They’ve been getting these emails for the past week,” SNP staffer Christopher Mullins-Silverstein told Fusion. “Ever since he came to Scotland.”

Records provided to Fusion show that the emails actually started last Wednesday, the day before Britons voted to leave the E.U. in a historic referendum — and just before Trump arrived in the Scottish lowlands to promote his golf resort and praise the Brexit vote, with awkward results.

The donation emails sent to the MPs include one in which Trump praises British voters for opting to leave the E.U. “These voters stood up for their nation — they put the United Kingdom first, and they took their country back,” it states, linking to a donation site and adding: “Will you stand with me at this critical time?” (Nearly two-thirds of Scots voted against leaving the E.U.; many Scots, led by left-leaning SNP politicians, are now calling for independence from the rest of the U.K. for Scotland.)

The emails themselves appear to be boilerplate donation solicitations, familiar to political journalists, and emailed automatically to any email address registered with the Trump campaign through its website. The MPs reported receiving the emails — at least four apiece — in the inboxes of their public-facing email accounts, listed on the U.K. Parliament’s website.

“Have received a few of these – I assumed the campaign just added us en [masse], but it could have been done maliciously,” MP Peter Grant wrote of the Trump emails. “Had to dig this out of the trash, they are bog-standard campaign spam.”

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 8:00:25 AM   
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That's some serious self-funding that is.

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 9:26:34 AM   
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foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing to American campaigns.

Donald needs incarceration.

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 10:16:35 AM   
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foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing to American campaigns.

Donald needs incarceration.

Well, don't tell the Republicanards in here, or they'll be all over petitioning the GOP over there to take legal action against Flump and his illegal campaigning, then.
I mean, just look how hard they've been struggling to find something illegal that Clinton has done that no Republican candidate has ever done. They're all over that shit, aren't they?

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 5:45:08 PM   
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foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing to American campaigns.
Donald needs incarceration.

Well, don't tell the Republicanards in here, or they'll be all over petitioning the GOP over there to take legal action against Flump and his illegal campaigning, then.
I mean, just look how hard they've been struggling to find something illegal that Clinton has done that no Republican candidate has ever done. They're all over that shit, aren't they?


I hope this gets looked into to verify this did come from "Team Trump" before any sanctions or sentences are given out.

If it turns out to be legit, then the punishment should be appropriate for the crime(s) committed. If it turns out to not be legit, well, fuck it, nominate someone else anyway!!!


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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 6:12:36 PM   
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foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing to American campaigns.

Is that still true after Citizens United?

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 6:35:04 PM   
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foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing to American campaigns.

Donald needs incarceration.


That's what I thought. But Romney had a big fundraiser in Israel and unless they are now a state and not a foreign country he should have been busted. And you would think that since he lost he would have been.

Later in the thread you see someone mention Citizens United. Now that we have this level of globalisation (enough to ruin us), maybe this is no longer true.

I still do not want Hillary and as bad as Trump is he would probably be the better choice. But who in their right mind would solicit donations from politicians in England or most places for him ? Their conservatives consider our liberal conservative. He is so far away from their (supposed) ideal that they would rather steal from his campaign than to donate to it.

And Donald Jr is 39 years old, he should know shit like this. If he is going to solicit these illegal donations that never get prosecuted, he should be approaching Arabs or some shit because Trump says he wants to be fair about the conflict between Palestine and Israel. And BTW on that other site I have heard bitching about that and responded "Fair is not good enough for you ?". Yes, fair is not good enough for the Israel firsters.

But then like anything else they got a way to get around it. the "kid" is not running for President. He can take money from anyone and simply forward it to the olman.

This is the same reason why we cannot get the bribery out of politics, all of them have oladies and families who can hold the money for them, we could make it illegal for politicians to have any cash and have to use a government issued card for everything, but then a lobbyist can just make the check out to a trusted family member. What is really needed is to elect a different kind of people but as log as the political parties control the elections that is not going to happen.

But Romney broke the law EXPLICITLY and nobody did shit. This is a roundabout way of getting away with it but at least it is not blatant disregard for the law. Close but not right there.

The just us system is working just fine.

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 7:24:57 PM   
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In my country, it is illegal for foreigners or foreign companies to fund local elections. If this was true, Trump's participation in the election will immediately be over, just because, that's completely illegal.

So I don't what the policy in the US is.

But what a stupid move, this one IF it was actually illegal. And also do something illegal by black and white methods which intentionally leaves tones of evidence.

At this point, I feel like Trump is running intentionally to lose, has he got cold feet?

This seems to be intentionally stupid move to jeopardize his own campaign.



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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 7:45:20 PM   
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I get emails regularly from the Sanders and Clinton campaigns, but only on the email address I actually used to sign up for them.

A public official's email is likely public information, so any schmuck could sign them up for all sorts of twisted shit without much trouble.

I think this is a non-issue.

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 8:56:55 PM   
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If it turns out to be legit, then the punishment should be appropriate for the crime(s) committed.


What do you feel would be appropriate?

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 8:59:37 PM   
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This seems to be intentionally stupid move to jeopardize his own campaign.


Funny how you have failed to notice till now?

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/29/2016 11:18:29 PM   
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This seems to be intentionally stupid move to jeopardize his own campaign.
Funny how you have failed to notice till now?

Alot of things he has been doing and saying has been extremely unconventional and show balls. And big risk taker. I admire that.

But this is the first time, his doing something completely illegal, if it's actually illegal in the US. Clearly all political systems is different. But soliciting donations from foreigners would be illegal for someone running for election in my country and would automatically disqualify him. Like with our system, there is no way he can continue running after that. Even if he wins and evidence comes out after, his still disqualified. And his position will be taken away from him.

So this is the first time, his trying to do something blatantly illegal to get disqualified? Unless US laws are different and what he is doing is perfectly legal. Then oh well, his just desperate to raise money where-ever he can, as unfortunately, saying unpolitical correct things, usually angers people and result in boycotts. That's the way things are.

I love the challenges thrown at him though. I enjoy watching how he over comes them. Because they are not easy. A lesser person would have crumbled.


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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 12:00:59 AM   
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foreign nationals are prohibited from contributing to American campaigns.
Donald needs incarceration.

That's what I thought. But Romney had a big fundraiser in Israel and unless they are now a state and not a foreign country he should have been busted. And you would think that since he lost he would have been.
...
But Romney broke the law EXPLICITLY and nobody did shit. This is a roundabout way of getting away with it but at least it is not blatant disregard for the law. Close but not right there.


Actually, Romney might not have broken any laws.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/the-ticket/romney-brings-1-million-israel-fundraiser-075809859.html
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    Romney's finance event marked the first time a presidential candidate has raised cash in Israel. The campaign accepted contributions only from American citizens—since candidates and parties are blocked from raising cash from foreign sources. Romney's fundraiser comes just days after he raised more than $2 million at a finance event in London.


Unless there is proof of non-citizens donating to his campaign, he broke no laws.

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 12:27:52 AM   
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The Dumocrats didn't seem to mind "foreign money" in '96. Of course, that moron had a (D) after his name.



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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 2:58:52 AM   
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Yea that was pretty stupid of Trumps kid to do that. If his dad needs money he can pimp himself out like Shrillary is doing. Send in your donation and you can be entered for a chance to hear her lie in person. And I am not sure why the article starts off with "Billionaire Donald Trump appears to have asked a British MP for money for his American Presidential campaign – and got a stinging rebuke in return. " when it says in the first paragraph that it was his son that emailed the guy. But I suppose the left is so used to lying about everything else it has just become habit.

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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 3:10:24 AM   
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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 3:15:35 AM   
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Yea that was pretty stupid of Trumps kid to do that. If his dad needs money he can pimp himself out like Shrillary is doing. Send in your donation and you can be entered for a chance to hear her lie in person. And I am not sure why the article starts off with "Billionaire Donald Trump appears to have asked a British MP for money for his American Presidential campaign – and got a stinging rebuke in return. " when it says in the first paragraph that it was his son that emailed the guy. But I suppose the left is so used to lying about everything else it has just become habit.

Is the donald's son running for president?
Is the donald's son involved in his fathers campagn?
Did the donald's son ask for a donation in his father's name?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 5:30:11 AM   
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The Dumocrats didn't seem to mind "foreign money" in '96. Of course, that moron had a (D) after his name.



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The republishiteaters are the only treasonous criminals to take foreign money and thats why they are passing laws to let corporations invert, so they can receive money from their foreign constituency.



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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 5:33:29 AM   
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Yea that was pretty stupid of Trumps kid to do that. If his dad needs money he can pimp himself out like Shrillary is doing. Send in your donation and you can be entered for a chance to hear her lie in person. And I am not sure why the article starts off with "Billionaire Donald Trump appears to have asked a British MP for money for his American Presidential campaign – and got a stinging rebuke in return. " when it says in the first paragraph that it was his son that emailed the guy. But I suppose the left is so used to lying about everything else it has just become habit.



Well, Jr did it, jail him. Although they have joined his campaign and are thick as thieves with their stoat wearing dad, he can deny, so fine, put the namesake in prison.



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RE: Donald asking for money from UK MPS? - 6/30/2016 6:09:42 AM   
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According to the FEC http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contrib.shtml#Foreign_Nationals
Foreign Nationals
Contributions and donations may not be solicited,14 accepted, or received from, or made directly or indirectly by, foreign nationals who do not have permanent residence in the United States (i.e., those without green cards). This prohibition encompasses all US elections; including federal, state and local elections. 11 CFR 110.20(b).


Well it has plausible deniability of course.
If boi wants to blame the left, she can write to the newspapers that have headlined it. see how far she gets with them.
About as far as she does here.
Nowhere.

Red Stete picked up the story
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/28/donald-trump-campaign-committing-campaign-finance-felonies/
so very left wing!!!!

And Fortune.com
http://fortune.com/2016/06/29/donald-trump-foreign-campaign-donations/
THe AP story is the same as above
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fde6a878b87b4b4c958c948279aad066/foreign-politicians-trump-stop-begging-money

THis from CNET.
http://www.cnet.com/news/trump-spams-foreign-politicians-with-fundraising-emails/


Im gonna go with greta for once. I dont think he is in for the win..but then its been doubtful to me since he started. I think he has tried to disqualify himself for a long time. Even that he cant do successfully.
Of course all his base love him and think its sad.
edited to add FEC rules link

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