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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/3/2016 9:03:45 PM   
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Especially when compared to the lies, corruption, enrichment, rent-seeking, war-mongering, duplicitous and outright stinking, disgust that the inside-the-beltway crowd had been predominantly in the executive branch, going back to Johnson/Nixon and the 60's.


It started with washington proceeded through adams and jefferson right on up to today in an unbroken line of skulldugery.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/4/2016 7:41:13 AM   
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Especially when compared to the lies, corruption, enrichment, rent-seeking, war-mongering, duplicitous and outright stinking, disgust that the inside-the-beltway crowd had been predominantly in the executive branch, going back to Johnson/Nixon and the 60's.


It started with washington proceeded through adams and jefferson right on up to today in an unbroken line of skulldugery.


One could agree insofar as the jockeying for power during the forming of our country but the outright financial corruption and the corruption of the corporation didn't start in until around Lincoln and predominantly afterward.

This culminated in fact during the corporate thievery (much more regulated until the 1860's and the civil war) also building the Intercontinental RR. EVERYBODY down to the lowest clerk was in on the take seeing that the businessmen and congress were so enriching themselves at taxpayers expense on that project.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/4/2016 8:34:27 AM   
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Especially when compared to the lies, corruption, enrichment, rent-seeking, war-mongering, duplicitous and outright stinking, disgust that the inside-the-beltway crowd had been predominantly in the executive branch, going back to Johnson/Nixon and the 60's.


It started with washington proceeded through adams and jefferson right on up to today in an unbroken line of skulldugery.


One could agree insofar as the jockeying for power during the forming of our country but the outright financial corruption and the corruption of the corporation didn't start in until around Lincoln and predominantly afterward.

This culminated in fact during the corporate thievery (much more regulated until the 1860's and the civil war) also building the Intercontinental RR. EVERYBODY down to the lowest clerk was in on the take seeing that the businessmen and congress were so enriching themselves at taxpayers expense on that project.


We have the expense accounts of washington and the records of his agrandisement. Jefferson likewise had issues with "bookeeping.Quincy adams was invoved in selling consularships and other "bookeeping" issues I would only agree that the punkassmotherfuckers have only got better with practice. Three hundred million + dollars each for 2500 projected f 35's plus spares. Korporate welfare at it's finest.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 12:54:53 AM   
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Especially when compared to the lies, corruption, enrichment, rent-seeking, war-mongering, duplicitous and outright stinking, disgust that the inside-the-beltway crowd had been predominantly in the executive branch, going back to Johnson/Nixon and the 60's.


It started with washington proceeded through adams and jefferson right on up to today in an unbroken line of skulldugery.


One could agree insofar as the jockeying for power during the forming of our country but the outright financial corruption and the corruption of the corporation didn't start in until around Lincoln and predominantly afterward.

This culminated in fact during the corporate thievery (much more regulated until the 1860's and the civil war) also building the Intercontinental RR. EVERYBODY down to the lowest clerk was in on the take seeing that the businessmen and congress were so enriching themselves at taxpayers expense on that project.


We have the expense accounts of washington and the records of his agrandisement. Jefferson likewise had issues with "bookeeping.Quincy adams was invoved in selling consularships and other "bookeeping" issues I would only agree that the punkassmotherfuckers have only got better with practice. Three hundred million + dollars each for 2500 projected f 35's plus spares. Korporate welfare at it's finest.

I know they offered Washington $25,000/yr salary and he said no, a far too princely sum, just cover my expenses. First term $500,000.

Yes, the F-35's went from $1.3 trillion to $1.9 trillion (program cost) and congress and us taxpayers are supposed to just pony up. That $600 bill...would just about cover Medicare, its profits and fraud.

Hamilton went into the field and offered 30 cents on the dollar for the script, to broke revolutionary war vets, while at that same time, had just submitted a bill to congress to pay 100%. It passed and Hamilton made a killing.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 8:38:31 AM   
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Apparently...she wont...

BREAKING NEWS
The F.B.I. recommended no charges for Hillary Clinton over her use of email as secretary of state, but called it "extremely careless"
Tuesday, July 5, 2016 11:19 AM EDT
The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, on Tuesday said “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring a case against Hillary Clinton for her handling of classified information as secretary of state. The F.B.I.’s recommendation will have an enormous impact on the presidential election.
Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. is not recommending charges against Mrs. Clinton to the Justice Department. But he said Mrs. Clinton and her staff were “extremely careless” in their use of email.
Read more »http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-email-comey.html?

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 8:43:04 AM   
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According to the latest Al Jazeera live feed, the FBI have announced that they won't be recommending charges be laid against Hilary Clinton. The DoJ has already announced that it will accept the FBI's recommendations in this matter. So Hilary is not going to be charged.

I am sure that this will lead to wailing and gnashing of teeth, howls of faux outrage and much talk of how an allegedly guilty Hilary has escaped prosecution once again in GOP circles. Gun sales will increase and it is possible that the suicide rate will go up as disappointed and furious Hilary-haters come to terms with the decision not to prosecute.

Another investigation into the Clintons comes to a complete dead end. $100 million wasted. How long before the GOP instigates the next failed investigation?

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 9:09:38 AM   
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interesting POV from the Wapo, there is more at the link......


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-chief-plans-remarks-to-media-amid-heightened-focus-on-clinton-email-probe/2016/07/05/a53513c4-42b9-11e6-bc99-7d269f8719b1_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most-draw6&wpmm=1

The Republican yearning to pin a scandal on Hillary Clinton knows no bounds. Any scandal will do, real or imagined. She must somehow be — or appear to be — guilty of something .

They tried Benghazi. Boy, did they try Benghazi. House Republicans even put together a special committee, which Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy praised for hurting Clinton’s chances of being elected president. “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?” he said in September. “But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping.”

To the GOP’s consternation, however, those numbers recovered nicely. According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, she leads Donald Trump by about 5 points; the most recent Washington Post-ABC News survey showed her ahead by 12. Adding insult to injury, the Benghazi committee came up empty-handed. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the panel’s chairman, released a final report last week that found no smoking gun. In fact, it didn’t even find smoke.

The September 2012 attacks on U.S. diplomatic and intelligence facilities in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans should be blamed on the terrorists who committed the assault — not on the secretary of state. Even if she happens to be named Clinton.

So if Benghazi isn’t the sought-for scandal, what else might be? Trump keeps threatening to re-litigate the 1990s by dredging up Bill Clinton’s womanizing and even the suicide of Clinton friend and associate Vince Foster. That is a realm peopled mostly by conspiracy theorists wearing tinfoil hats; Trump can go there if he wants, but the rest of the country won’t follow.

The 5 most serious accusations from House Republicans’ Benghazi report Embed Share Play Video1:42
House Republicans released their report on the attack on the 2012 U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi on June 28. Here are the 5 most serious accusations in the report. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Let’s see, there’s the Clinton Foundation and the vast amount of money it has raised, including from foreign governments, potentates and moguls. The problem with this line of attack is that the foundation, by all accounts, does a lot of good around the world. And it generally operates in a way that Republicans should applaud, not simply doling out money but instead boosting the capacity of local governments and organizations to solve their own problems.

What other grist for the scandal mill could there be?

I’m being somewhat disingenuous, of course. There are Hillary Clinton’s emails.

As I’ve written, Clinton was wrong to decline a government email account when she was secretary of state and instead use a private account run from a server in her house.

What was she thinking? I doubt it was “convenience,” as she still claims. I’ve believed all along that Clinton wanted control. I think she wanted to guarantee that no personal or foundation emails would ever become part of the public record and thus potentially subject to release. It is certainly true that the Clintons have legions of political enemies who would love to root through the family’s private affairs. This fact does not, however, make Clinton’s actions right.

But were they illegal? And were they criminal?

That’s what the FBI and Justice Department lawyers are trying to ascertain. From what is publicly known about the emails, I am unimpressed. The salient issue is whether she mishandled classified material. Clinton’s critics note that David Petraeus, a former CIA director and one of the most lauded military officers of his time, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge and was hit with a $100,000 fine for that offense. But it seems to me that routing potentially sensitive emails through a private server is different from handing classified information to one’s mistress, which is what Petraeus did.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 9:27:26 AM   
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This morning's meeting with FBI agents seems to be a finalizing or summarizing event, it'll probably be the last time they talk to her before action is taken.
It seems like were very close to seeing her indicted.
And Loretta Lynch said she'd accept the decisions of career litigators in the D.O.J. as to whether she'd be recused from the case, that can't be good for Hillary.
And the FBI said that this is a "criminal matter" not a "security review" as Hillary would have you believe.
So what say you, does Hillary get popped next week?


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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 9:55:24 AM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?

*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 10:35:27 AM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?

*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")

I think shock, anger, denial, will keep them going until they find something else she should be "hung for"
I wonder if Trumps reaction to the announcement will be used in an excuse to throw in the towel...

He isnt having much fun. The rape charge is active again, I see more sludge being thrown soon. whether its by his own party or the dems, something will splatter the fan shortly.
His flurry of surrogates making the "anti semitic" tweet into "no big deal" but trump isnt "apologizing" for tweeting it or for it offending people, *why should he?*
Disclaimer, I have no opinion regarding the level of mistake this is...I dont think its close to being his worst. plausible deniability etc, but its pissing more people off.
Its turning a lot of people against him, even his supporters.
To me its just more proof of just how low he is willing to go.
He is chaos theory

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 10:45:46 AM   
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He still hasn't revealed his tax returns, has he?
Either he's lyin' (like Ted) about how much he spends on all this charity work, or his total worth is nothing like what he claims (or something worse still, possibly, I suppose).

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 11:12:42 AM   
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Probably not given her husband appears to be attempting to pervert the course of justice.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 11:15:05 AM   
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Probably not given her husband appears to be attempting to pervert the course of justice.


Make up your mind was he kissing loretta's ass or sucking comey's dick?

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 11:15:31 AM   
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Probably not given her husband appears to be attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Were you bitching about somebody using a private email server when it was Bush jr doing it rather than somebody called Clinton?

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 3:52:37 PM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?
*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")


I never heard that Bush or Cheney had a private email server they used exclusively for government email. I'd have been opposed to that, had I heard about it.


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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 4:03:07 PM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?
*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")


I never heard that Bush or Cheney had a private email server they used exclusively for government email. I'd have been opposed to that, had I heard about it.

I'd like to see him cite it...and the comparable charges of carelessness...lodged against them by the then-Director of the F. B. I.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 4:05:46 PM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?
*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")


I never heard that Bush or Cheney had a private email server they used exclusively for government email. I'd have been opposed to that, had I heard about it.



Actually it was Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell who used their cell phones the same way Clinton used her server (albeit in much smaller quantity, but if it's a crime, it doesn't matter how often. We still arrest people who commit one murder or one robbery). As the FBI stated, this is little more than an administrative error and doesn't rise to being a crime. I'd be willing to bet that there's quite a few in Congress who've done the exact same thing although I'm sure they all cleared their phones out when this all started.

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 4:16:34 PM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?
*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")

I never heard that Bush or Cheney had a private email server they used exclusively for government email. I'd have been opposed to that, had I heard about it.

Actually it was Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell who used their cell phones the same way Clinton used her server (albeit in much smaller quantity, but if it's a crime, it doesn't matter how often. We still arrest people who commit one murder or one robbery). As the FBI stated, this is little more than an administrative error and doesn't rise to being a crime. I'd be willing to bet that there's quite a few in Congress who've done the exact same thing although I'm sure they all cleared their phones out when this all started.


Rice and Powell had private servers in their basements?!? Why wasn't that information brought forth?!?


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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 4:23:08 PM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?
*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")


I never heard that Bush or Cheney had a private email server they used exclusively for government email. I'd have been opposed to that, had I heard about it.



Actually it was Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell who used their cell phones the same way Clinton used her server (albeit in much smaller quantity, but if it's a crime, it doesn't matter how often. We still arrest people who commit one murder or one robbery). As the FBI stated, this is little more than an administrative error and doesn't rise to being a crime. I'd be willing to bet that there's quite a few in Congress who've done the exact same thing although I'm sure they all cleared their phones out when this all started.
Rice and Powell were sending and receiving classified emails over their phones? Cite?

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RE: Will H. Clinton be doing the Perp Walk next week? - 7/5/2016 4:36:38 PM   
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I take it everybody bitching* about Clinton's emails had the same issues with Bush jr and Cheney doing the same in the White House?
*(A polite euphemism for "throwing a massive histrionic tantrum that would shame a toddler who's shat themself")


I never heard that Bush or Cheney had a private email server they used exclusively for government email. I'd have been opposed to that, had I heard about it.



Actually it was Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell who used their cell phones the same way Clinton used her server (albeit in much smaller quantity, but if it's a crime, it doesn't matter how often. We still arrest people who commit one murder or one robbery). As the FBI stated, this is little more than an administrative error and doesn't rise to being a crime. I'd be willing to bet that there's quite a few in Congress who've done the exact same thing although I'm sure they all cleared their phones out when this all started.
Rice and Powell were sending and receiving classified emails over their phones? Cite?



No cite required when enough leftist parrot a lie it automatically becomes true.

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