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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 10:50:13 AM   
Musicmystery


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2) the data shows nothing of the kind
3) what liberal lawyer? you're hallucinating

Believe what you want. You're clearly going to.

But it won't make you accurate.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 12:01:07 PM   
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So far, no one condemning these crimes against these individuals and families.
Alrighty


Did you fail to notice that the lapd investigated and arrested them and the d.a. is going to prosecute them for a hate crime and not disturbing the peace?

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 12:12:55 PM   
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Oh Dense One...how many American citizens do you know or can find in a study that are breaking the law and receiving benefits while doing so?

Have we not constantly herd the bleat of those on food stamps cheating?



The illegals are breaking a law every day and receiving benefits.

You are lying. The cite you posted does not say that. It does point out that you are a liar. Even though a household may be headed by an illegal allien only citizens may draw the beinfit.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.




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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 12:40:12 PM   
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1) didn't skew anything
2) the data shows nothing of the kind
3) what liberal lawyer? you're hallucinating

Believe what you want. You're clearly going to.

But it won't make you accurate.
Liberal lawyer...from your cite: Dan Abrams, graduate of Columbia Law School. Legal analyst for PMSNBC...ABC...etc.

As for believing what I want and not being accurate, I'll leave that to you.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 2:56:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a false paradigm. In this case a framework containing the basic assumptions, ways of thinking, and methodology that are commonly accepted. What's illegal and serves me and those others who seek to enjoy it, can go buy a change and get it made...legal.

I.e., either you have a rich enough lobby to get what you seek to go from illegal to legal, you can just go head and go to jail or die. Any ensuing abuse of the status quo helps my cause in alleged social unrest, further promotes my short term political capital to partner with my real capital, in making what I need to be...legal.

How does one think the whole temp. farm workers laws got on the boards ?

Meanwhile, blacks apparently, are being hunted in LA.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 6:58:50 PM   
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lol
Especially if they are here illegally.
The illegals get treated better than American citizens, that's common knowledge.



Yup, just as people can (and often do) say that blacks get treated better than whites by that same bag of stylistic horse feathers.

Common knowledge indeed.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 7:46:43 PM   
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I'd say this reality is more 'real' than yours:

http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

An interesting paragraph from that study:

The far right column in Table 1 reports welfare use for illegal immigrant households using only the two migration variables discussed in the methodology section of this report. Although there is an undercount of illegal immigrants using this method, the table shows that there is simply no question that households headed by illegal immigrants access a good deal of welfare. In fact, illegal immigrants' use of some programs is quite high. For example, using just the two migration variables, 30 percent of households headed by illegal immigrants are on food stamps and 56 percent have at least one person on Medicaid. Any suggestion that there are no welfare costs associated with illegal immigrants is incorrect. The SIPP shows that households headed by individuals with a very high probability of being in the country illegally make significant use of food programs and Medicaid.



"I'd say this reality is more 'real' than yours:

http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households"

As someone who actually understands the process of stats gathering, and how to do it properly, I wouldn't say any such thing.

Unless you come up with something that actually spells out actual cost of benefits outlay per household and size of household, the entire venture in your link is essentially meaningless.

The typical size of immigrant households all through the ages, including the US, is significantly larger than the typical household size of "natives," however much of a joke that term might be in such instance.

Is a household of 12-20 people being fed by the 2-3 members qualifying for the dole more of an intrusion upon society than a household of 4-12 with half or more of them on the dole? Nothing in the meaningless article in your link addresses that. At all.

But while we're at it, were the hedge fund managers and equity fund partners who have a 20% less tax rate than the honest income reporters who make $150k-600k while the former were making 5-30 times as much listed as "welfare beneficiaries" in that list? No? Not the folks who are under the same tax rate earning millions as a 15 yr. old earning min. wage working at Taco Bell?

No?

That's not a government benefit?

And not the corporations and wealthiest individuals 'legally' though entirely artificially placing profits actually made in the US to Ireland and an assortment of British offshore accounts?

No?


The problem is not that we are importing too many workers, but that we are not exporting enough of another kind.

Export the profits? Export the jackass and his corporation.

Plenty of Japanese and Germans to take his place, as is already happening.









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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 8:14:44 PM   
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And yes, if they are foreign corporations, the net earnings will be exported.

But unlike US corporations, they will actually pay their tax before doing so.




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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 10:25:07 PM   
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lol
Especially if they are here illegally.
The illegals get treated better than American citizens, that's common knowledge.



Yup, just as people can (and often do) say that blacks get treated better than whites by that same bag of stylistic horse feathers.

Common knowledge indeed.


Right.....you are full of it.
The police have been especially giving black people"special treatment " lately.
You are dismissed and ignored.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/8/2016 11:53:33 PM   
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Oh really?

Well yeah, I'm totally out of the loop on that one.

Witness:

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The 72 hour rule applies, but I heard somewhere that he was a gang member and a pedophile.

How can you continue to invoke the 72 hour rule, then in the same sentence spread rumor?


Essentially, I am remarking on what I have seen/read and acknowledging that for 72 hours there are going to be a lot of mixed and wrong information. I am not saying the guy was positively a gang member and pedophile, but that is one of the reports.


Which is to say you are remarking on rumor, thereby spreading it further.

Was he engaging in gang activity or selling or displaying pedophilia in front of the store when the police arrived? Were they there for purpose to arrest him on either account when they approached him?

If not, then whatever he might have been accused or even convicted of previously is not germane to the issue of their murdering him. The police dept. themselves in fact said the officers had no knowledge of any prior record. How could they have? They didn't know his name until after they murdered him.


Or:

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Have you ever tried to keep perfectly still after being tazed twice? You've never seen a video of a person being tazed and how their body responds?

It was impossible for him to stop moving.

The original call was about a guy with a gun, but when they drag him to the ground one officer screams "He's got a gun!" like they were surprised?

Do they keep lowering the max IQ ceiling to be allowed into police academy these days?

The guy never touched his gun. The police pulled it out of his pocket after they killed him.


It doesn't escape notice, though, that you have nothing in the way of objection to the fallacy presented in this post and else where that Latino immigrants are "treated better" than "natives."

If you want to present that what goes on in the more derelict sections of one overly large city in S California as being representative of the nation as a whole regarding Latino vs. black population, then carry on.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/9/2016 4:01:48 AM   
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You are dismissed and ignored.


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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/11/2016 7:16:18 PM   
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And yes, if they are foreign corporations, the net earnings will be exported.

But unlike US corporations, they will actually pay their tax before doing so.


US corporations like Google, etc actually negotiate with the IRS to pay a lot less tax (cut down to about half!), its called "Advance Pricing Agreements".. imo, its totally sickening.. I expect Trump is on that gravy train too.. but since his corps are private and these deals are private there is no way to prove he is (unless someone blows the whistle).. Gotta love America, huh?

" The tax break that corporate America wants kept secret
When Oracle reported its latest quarterly earnings last month, most investors focused on the fact that its dividend doubled. The number that got less notice in its annual report a week later was its low tax bill — nearly half the standard 35% corporate rate.

It’s a significant change from a decade ago, when the software giant began thinking about higher tax costs amid plans for growth. It turned to an obscure solution: confidential pacts forged between the Internal Revenue Service and multinational corporations that critics say can unwittingly bless aggressive tax strategies. In 2003 Oracle disclosed for the first time that it had sealed two such long-term pacts with the IRS and was negotiating additional ones.

The pacts, known as advance pricing agreements, effectively lock the IRS into agreeing with a company’s tax planning over many years, both future and past. Despite costing companies up to millions of dollars in fees to prepare and taking up to four years to seal, the agreements are nonetheless worth it to an elite group of big corporations that have them, including Google & Amazon. "

http://fortune.com/2013/07/22/the-tax-break-that-corporate-america-wants-kept-secret/

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/11/2016 7:58:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually the gang problem, particularly this problem, has made the national news on at least two occasions, albeit small short segments, with the overwhelming air time going to the problem of white cops killing African Americans twice as often as any other race, according to the spokesmen interviewed.

Now going back to my disdain for large urbanized, over crowded population centers, there is a solution.

Pull ever cop, law abiding citizen and any one that actually wants out from these population centers, give the people remaining guns, and let them kill each other.

This way cops are not blamed, whites are not blamed and the morons who prefer to make a living selling drugs can deal with each other.

Now this system is based on the idea fronted by Thomas Swift in his essay "A Modest Proposal"

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/11/2016 8:01:28 PM   
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This will not be front and center, because the perpetrators are Hispanic.

No, it's not front and centre because it is one gang hunting another gang, in other words, business as usual in inner city USA

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/13/2016 4:07:03 AM   
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This will not be front and center, because the perpetrators are Hispanic.

No, it's not front and centre because it is one gang hunting another gang, in other words, business as usual in inner city USA


Maybe you should go back and actually read the link before commenting. They are not targeting another gang, they are targeting the people who live in the community.

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RE: Blacks being hunted in LA - 7/13/2016 3:15:03 PM   
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This will not be front and center, because the perpetrators are Hispanic.

No, it's not front and centre because it is one gang hunting another gang, in other words, business as usual in inner city USA


Maybe you should go back and actually read the link before commenting. They are not targeting another gang, they are targeting the people who live in the community.

Thank you thb,
Families and children were threatened with violence, these were racial hate crimes, that had nothing to do with gang against gang.
I wasnt even going to bother here, but thanks.


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