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Greta75 -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 12:47:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You have threatened to harm me so perhaps you will do us all a favor, follow your own advice and stop breathing up our air?

Yes I have threatened to harm you and I am willing to be put to death for harming you, if you came to my country and I harmed you, my country will punished me, as they should. If there is a group of people I hate more than people who support Islam, it's fat shamers.
Doesn't change my mind on death penalty. There are things in my life I am willing to die for. And I think if I committed the crime, I do deserve death for it. And that's okay. Because I deserved it if I chose to do it.
One is getting rid of one fat shaming asshole in this world. Definitely worth a death penalty.




PeonForHer -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 12:50:45 AM)

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You want to ban them all or just the automatics?


Not bad. [;)]




Greta75 -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 1:06:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
I knew a girl in Singapore who worked at Tan Tock Seng. From memory she used to shop in Malaysia and there were a lot of service staff - maids and the like - who used to cross from Malaysia to Singapore every morning for work and every evening to get back home.
Interesting society.

There is alot of foreigners who work in Singapore but choose to live in Malaysia and drive in eveyday for work. Malaysian students who prefer Singapore education also go across into the Singapore everyday for school and back home. I feel sorry for those. You can go to the customs between 3am to 4am, and you see these poor kids queuing up at customs already and they are very young. Like 8 to 12 yr olds. I wonder if they ever get any sleep.

Everything inside Malaysia is 3 times cheaper than Singapore, rent, houses, car, food, groceries, gas, school, medical care, dental care, everything. So yea, Malaysia gets alot of business from the foreigners in Singapore as well as Singaporeans.

Like international school in Singapore may be 20k a year, some foreigners choose to put their kids in Malaysian international school even though they are working here, to pay 1/3 of the price. And willing to drive in and out to send their kids to school there and pick them back up back. To save the money.

The whole idea for them is, earn Singapore Dollars, spend in Malaysian Ringgit.

The down side of Malaysia is, it's filled with corruption. Every security guard, police are all bribable. You can get away with anything, and you can forget about even parking your car near security. No use. The bad guys would have bribe the dude more, to close an eye. And house breaks in, robbery, car getting stolen is like a normal thing. Robbery often happen in broad day light, at busy petrol stations, or busy malls. And robbers are smart. They don't have knives or guns. They have a stringe with blood-like liquid inside, and they will tell you that they are infected with Aids, so if you don't hand them your money, they will stab you with aids infected stringe. And if you report it to the police, they are completely nonchalant and don't care.

That is seriously...., a smart way to rob. Most people would freak out.

And this is probably one of the rare countries where it cost a mere $2000 to hire a gunman to assassinate whoever you don't like. So cheap and easy. And thanks to internal corruption, the gunmen is always never caught.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/cheap-gunmen-for-hire







DesideriScuri -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 1:28:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
For one thing, the Jizya is not a religious tax or tribute, it is a state tax, so it is only applicable in a Islamic country.
The Jizya is a tax levied on non-Muslims in Islamic countries. So fighting people until they pay the Jizya means "take over their country, then make them pay protection money".


I'm sorry, but it sounds more like it's about bukkake...




Marini -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 9:52:23 AM)

Humm
Now they are saying that the attacker got radicalized very rapidly.
What does that really mean?
Are we going to actually start attempting to try to figure out how long it takes to become radicalized?

At the very least we might consider implementing radicalizing intervention therapy centers.




BamaD -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 10:14:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You have threatened to harm me so perhaps you will do us all a favor, follow your own advice and stop breathing up our air?

Yes I have threatened to harm you and I am willing to be put to death for harming you, if you came to my country and I harmed you, my country will punished me, as they should. If there is a group of people I hate more than people who support Islam, it's fat shamers.
Doesn't change my mind on death penalty. There are things in my life I am willing to die for. And I think if I committed the crime, I do deserve death for it. And that's okay. Because I deserved it if I chose to do it.
One is getting rid of one fat shaming asshole in this world. Definitely worth a death penalty.


You are wrong, not only is he not worth giving up your life over, he isn't worth your time talking to.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 10:26:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
For one thing, the Jizya is not a religious tax or tribute, it is a state tax, so it is only applicable in a Islamic country.
The Jizya is a tax levied on non-Muslims in Islamic countries. So fighting people until they pay the Jizya means "take over their country, then make them pay protection money".


I'm sorry, but it sounds more like it's about bukkake...


I am glad that I am not the only one thinking that...




Marini -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 10:41:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You have threatened to harm me so perhaps you will do us all a favor, follow your own advice and stop breathing up our air?

Yes I have threatened to harm you and I am willing to be put to death for harming you, if you came to my country and I harmed you, my country will punished me, as they should. If there is a group of people I hate more than people who support Islam, it's fat shamers.
Doesn't change my mind on death penalty. There are things in my life I am willing to die for. And I think if I committed the crime, I do deserve death for it. And that's okay. Because I deserved it if I chose to do it.
One is getting rid of one fat shaming asshole in this world. Definitely worth a death penalty.


You are wrong, not only is he not worth giving up your life over, he isn't worth your time talking to.


Psst Bama, they enjoy each other.
People don't spend hours, days, weeks, and months chatting if they BOTH don't enjoy it.
I often don't respond to many on here, it's real easy to selectively respond, ignore and not chat with people here.
Dont see it, can't read it, sure as hell won't respond.
Sometimes I put people on ignore also.
I actually don't have anyone on ignore now, but there are many many many posts and POSTERS, I don't read.
Most people do exactly what they want in places like this.
Who the hell makes people chat/or type continuously to people they don't like?
The invisible fucking man?
Free fucking will is powerful.
Let them love on each other.
Who knows, one day they could be a couple.
Lovebirds
[sm=pillowfight.gif]

[;)]




Edwird -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 2:26:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
quote:


And most of the dead in the middle east can be indirectly linked to "Christian" western countries breaking up the Ottoman Empire after WW1 and then drawing lines on a map putting people together who have been killing each other for religious and ethnic reasons for 2000 years.


Wrong!



Nice. Classic "hear no facts, see no facts" response.

But anyway, two good sources with accurate accounting of events, facts, etc. are listed below. Anathema to mouth frothing nonsense, but there it is. The first book covers that part of it concerning the oil companies' interest (the prime mover in all this), while the second one covers the political aspect.

The Control of oil 1976, by John Malcolm Blair

A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East 1989, by David Fromkin

There are even better and certainly more thorough books on creation of the modern Middle East, but those two in combination make an excellent starter kit.

None of the numerous book reviews and vetting of these books in academia raised issue about factual content, and both were highly acclaimed. Creditable sources, then, which completely back up what jlfl1961 said in the quote above.







PeonForHer -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 2:47:58 PM)

FR

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nice-isis-terrorist-salsa-dancing-8433542#rlabs=7%20rt$category%20p$6

Well, all this fulminating about IS, and about what the Koran says, seems to be a lot of irrelevant balls. IS has claimed that this murdering fruitcake was one of their own, but it actually turns out that he was just the average psychopathic murdering fruitcake. He may or may not have come across some ISIS website that suggested that you can have a fun time by getting stoned out of your brain then jumping in a vehicle and driving down a busy street splattering people in your path.

Frankly, there are those people who want to point out how evil Islam is as a religion is, and this is one logical result, and of course most sane people realise that such 'experts' are farts. But at the same time, there seems to be little relevance in pointing to how peachy the Koran and Islam in general is, either. This bloke evidently was no great pious follower of Muhammed and the Koran. In fact, he was a keener follower of getting drunk, stoned and being a general-purpose arse to all around him. Essentially, what he was was a plain old evil turd.

What has happened here is that some demented, murdering bastard has slaughtered lots of people, and most of us are at a loss as to how to prevent it happening again. I am, too.

New ideas, please.




thishereboi -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 4:24:46 PM)

I love the way you think




Politesub53 -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 4:41:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nice-isis-terrorist-salsa-dancing-8433542#rlabs=7%20rt$category%20p$6

Well, all this fulminating about IS, and about what the Koran says, seems to be a lot of irrelevant balls. IS has claimed that this murdering fruitcake was one of their own, but it actually turns out that he was just the average psychopathic murdering fruitcake. He may or may not have come across some ISIS website that suggested that you can have a fun time by getting stoned out of your brain then jumping in a vehicle and driving down a busy street splattering people in your path.

Frankly, there are those people who want to point out how evil Islam is as a religion is, and this is one logical result, and of course most sane people realise that such 'experts' are farts. But at the same time, there seems to be little relevance in pointing to how peachy the Koran and Islam in general is, either. This bloke evidently was no great pious follower of Muhammed and the Koran. In fact, he was a keener follower of getting drunk, stoned and being a general-purpose arse to all around him. Essentially, what he was was a plain old evil turd.

What has happened here is that some demented, murdering bastard has slaughtered lots of people, and most of us are at a loss as to how to prevent it happening again. I am, too.

New ideas, please.



Peon nails it again. One nutter radicalised in jail and by the use of the internet does not equal IS, let alone every Muslim alive.




thishereboi -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 4:46:01 PM)

Not worth it in my opinion and then we wouldn't hear any more stories about Singapore.




Greta75 -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 5:31:07 PM)

FR
"This is a new type of attack," Cazeneuve said. "We are now confronted with individuals that are sensitive to the message of ISIS and are committed to extremely violent actions without necessarily being trained by them."
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/16/europe/france-attack-on-nice-isis/index.html

ISIS claiming credit.

But what the hell is this Cazeneuve talking about. Lone wolves attack are about ordinary moderate muslims responding to ISIS call to Jihad without communicating with them or trained by them. Because the damn message specifically tells them to plan things their own way so they can't get detected! It's never co-ordinated anymore! That's the whole new strategy which works better and makes it hard to eradicate ISIS.

What an idiot! IF by now he haven't been observing this has been what been happening, what the hell has he been doing!




BamaD -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 6:24:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You have threatened to harm me so perhaps you will do us all a favor, follow your own advice and stop breathing up our air?

Yes I have threatened to harm you and I am willing to be put to death for harming you, if you came to my country and I harmed you, my country will punished me, as they should. If there is a group of people I hate more than people who support Islam, it's fat shamers.
Doesn't change my mind on death penalty. There are things in my life I am willing to die for. And I think if I committed the crime, I do deserve death for it. And that's okay. Because I deserved it if I chose to do it.
One is getting rid of one fat shaming asshole in this world. Definitely worth a death penalty.


You are wrong, not only is he not worth giving up your life over, he isn't worth your time talking to.


Psst Bama, they enjoy each other.
People don't spend hours, days, weeks, and months chatting if they BOTH don't enjoy it.
I often don't respond to many on here, it's real easy to selectively respond, ignore and not chat with people here.
Dont see it, can't read it, sure as hell won't respond.
Sometimes I put people on ignore also.
I actually don't have anyone on ignore now, but there are many many many posts and POSTERS, I don't read.
Most people do exactly what they want in places like this.
Who the hell makes people chat/or type continuously to people they don't like?
The invisible fucking man?
Free fucking will is powerful.
Let them love on each other.
Who knows, one day they could be a couple.
Lovebirds

[sm=pillowfight.gif]

[;)]

That is a sick thought.




Nnanji -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 6:42:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I've got this one. That would be because Christianity doesn't tell its followers to murder people.


Maybe you could tell us the origin of the phrase "kill them all let god sort them out?



I'm pretty sure that was the Marine Corp and not the Pope.




BamaD -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 7:19:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
I knew a girl in Singapore who worked at Tan Tock Seng. From memory she used to shop in Malaysia and there were a lot of service staff - maids and the like - who used to cross from Malaysia to Singapore every morning for work and every evening to get back home.
Interesting society.

There is alot of foreigners who work in Singapore but choose to live in Malaysia and drive in eveyday for work. Malaysian students who prefer Singapore education also go across into the Singapore everyday for school and back home. I feel sorry for those. You can go to the customs between 3am to 4am, and you see these poor kids queuing up at customs already and they are very young. Like 8 to 12 yr olds. I wonder if they ever get any sleep.

Everything inside Malaysia is 3 times cheaper than Singapore, rent, houses, car, food, groceries, gas, school, medical care, dental care, everything. So yea, Malaysia gets alot of business from the foreigners in Singapore as well as Singaporeans.

Like international school in Singapore may be 20k a year, some foreigners choose to put their kids in Malaysian international school even though they are working here, to pay 1/3 of the price. And willing to drive in and out to send their kids to school there and pick them back up back. To save the money.

The whole idea for them is, earn Singapore Dollars, spend in Malaysian Ringgit.

The down side of Malaysia is, it's filled with corruption. Every security guard, police are all bribable. You can get away with anything, and you can forget about even parking your car near security. No use. The bad guys would have bribe the dude more, to close an eye. And house breaks in, robbery, car getting stolen is like a normal thing. Robbery often happen in broad day light, at busy petrol stations, or busy malls. And robbers are smart. They don't have knives or guns. They have a stringe with blood-like liquid inside, and they will tell you that they are infected with Aids, so if you don't hand them your money, they will stab you with aids infected stringe. And if you report it to the police, they are completely nonchalant and don't care.

That is seriously...., a smart way to rob. Most people would freak out.

And this is probably one of the rare countries where it cost a mere $2000 to hire a gunman to assassinate whoever you don't like. So cheap and easy. And thanks to internal corruption, the gunmen is always never caught.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/cheap-gunmen-for-hire





If your not real picky you can get a hit for $100 here.




BamaD -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 7:24:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I've got this one. That would be because Christianity doesn't tell its followers to murder people.


Maybe you could tell us the origin of the phrase "kill them all let god sort them out?



I'm pretty sure that was the Marine Corp and not the Pope.

Actually it is older than the U S. My research has it begining with a 13th century German Bishop but someone on here says it is even older than that.
And that was not church dogma, it was the decision of one man when taking one city.




jlf1961 -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 8:14:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I've got this one. That would be because Christianity doesn't tell its followers to murder people.


Maybe you could tell us the origin of the phrase "kill them all let god sort them out?



I'm pretty sure that was the Marine Corp and not the Pope.

Actually it is older than the U S. My research has it begining with a 13th century German Bishop but someone on here says it is even older than that.
And that was not church dogma, it was the decision of one man when taking one city.

Arnaud Amalric (died 1225) was a Cistercian abbot coined the phrase during the Albigensian Crusade, however, it is thought another version was coined during the sacking of Jerusalem during the crusades, "Kill them all, God will take his."




Nnanji -> RE: Bastille Day Killings (7/16/2016 9:22:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I've got this one. That would be because Christianity doesn't tell its followers to murder people.


Maybe you could tell us the origin of the phrase "kill them all let god sort them out?



I'm pretty sure that was the Marine Corp and not the Pope.

Actually it is older than the U S. My research has it begining with a 13th century German Bishop but someone on here says it is even older than that.
And that was not church dogma, it was the decision of one man when taking one city.

Arnaud Amalric (died 1225) was a Cistercian abbot coined the phrase during the Albigensian Crusade, however, it is thought another version was coined during the sacking of Jerusalem during the crusades, "Kill them all, God will take his."

That's interesting. I first heard a version from an Iranian Moslem who was commenting to me about how shy America was about the death penalty. He said to me, "you know, you go to Macy's and buy an item and when you get it back home and find it doesn't work, you take it back to Macy's and let them handle it. You should do the same with criminals. Some people you just have to send back to God and let him handle it."




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