quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Your opinion is there is no "rational" reason for a civilian to own such a rifle and you state this opinion is "unchallenged" and "uncountered". I am merely asking what reasons you have for taking such a stance. What formed this "unchallenged" opinion of yours?

It's difficult to read when you're dizzy.

K.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

"Rational" in this context, if you read the OP, means that the government proscribes the ownership.

No it doesn't.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

... yet I don't recall seeing a list of rational reasons as to why civilians should not own a semi-automatic rifle with a "large capacity" magazine. Do you have any rational reasons?

Because they don't want one, as already stated.

Most people consider not buying what one doesn't want to be rational.

No...that's not gonna fly. "Rational" in this context, if you read the OP, means that the government proscribes the ownership. It has nothing to do with ability to afford or desire to own.

Actually, that's completely wrong.

The context was this:

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

If there is no reason a civilian should not own such a rifle, they can (and should) own it. Many, in fact, because there's no rational reason not to.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Your opinion is there is no "rational" reason for a civilian to own such a rifle and you state this opinion is "unchallenged" and "uncountered". I am merely asking what reasons you have for taking such a stance. What formed this "unchallenged" opinion of yours?

It's difficult to read when you're dizzy.

K.

I'm sitting down to my second glass of this incredible 20 year Tawny and have worked an ungodly amount of hours recently. Maybe I'm missing something, what with my thick skull, or I'm just not articulating properly.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Your opinion is there is no "rational" reason for a civilian to own such a rifle and you state this opinion is "unchallenged" and "uncountered". I am merely asking what reasons you have for taking such a stance. What formed this "unchallenged" opinion of yours?

It's difficult to read when you're dizzy.

K.

I'm sitting down to my second glass of this incredible 20 year Tawny and have worked an ungodly amount of hours recently. Maybe I'm missing something, what with my thick skull, or I'm just not articulating properly.

Dizzy was asking you why you couldn't get something through your thick skull on the previous page.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

As to your inquiry regarding reasons not to buy a semi-automatic rifle;

For me personally, as for many millions of others, I've just never felt the need for, and have never had the urge to own a gun of any sort.

I've known gun owners all my life, so it's possible that long ago I might have given some bit of thought to it, but I don't consciously recall it.

In any case I just never gave much thought as to why. People usually give more thought to actions they are contemplating than those they are not.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

As to your inquiry regarding reasons not to buy a semi-automatic rifle;

For me personally, as for many millions of others, I've just never felt the need for, and have never had the urge to own a gun of any sort.

I've known gun owners all my life, so it's possible that long ago I might have given some bit of thought to it, but I don't consciously recall it.

In any case I just never gave much thought as to why. People usually give more thought to actions they are contemplating than those they are not.

I, actually, owned guns for probably twenty years before I bought a semi-automatic rifle. I bought one...or so...specifically because the government was going to ban them. Which just shows you how well liberal policies ever work. Come to think of it, until then I didn't even own semi-auto pistols. I had revolvers, bolt and lever action rifles and shotguns. Clinton's (the rapist not the rape justifier and crook) gun ban inspired me to own that which I had never before desired.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

As to your inquiry regarding reasons not to buy a semi-automatic rifle;

For me personally, as for many millions of others, I've just never felt the need for, and have never had the urge to own a gun of any sort.

I've known gun owners all my life, so it's possible that long ago I might have given some bit of thought to it, but I don't consciously recall it.

In any case I just never gave much thought as to why. People usually give more thought to actions they are contemplating than those they are not.

I, actually, owned guns for probably twenty years before I bought a semi-automatic rifle. I bought one...or so...specifically because the government was going to ban them. Which just shows you how well liberal policies ever work. Come to think of it, until then I didn't even own semi-auto pistols. I had revolvers, bolt and lever action rifles and shotguns. Clinton's (the rapist not the rape justifier and crook) gun ban inspired me to own that which I had never before desired.

I got my first automatic rifle when I was 18, as a grauduation/Christmas present. This was long enough ago that it was legal. My preference is a lever action, and I prefer revolvers. I carry and automatic most of the time because they are easier to conceal but my handgun of preference is a colt sa clone.
As I see it, if someone doesn't want to own a firearm that is their business, I have no right to tell them to get one, just as they have no right to tell me I can't.
Also a revolver, a lever, or a pump, are just as deadly as an automatic, and that harping about automatics is just a smoke screen to go after all guns.

quote:

Another person being robbed by their ESL teacher.

quote:

Dizzy was asking you why you couldn't get something through your thick skull on the previous page.

quote:

And your rational premis for a thick skull is that you don't understand him or he doesn't understand you?

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

Another person being robbed by their ESL teacher.

Nope, none of those reasons are a necessity, therefore no needs given, only reasons one may want to. Looks like you were the one robbed.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

Dizzy was asking you why you couldn't get something through your thick skull on the previous page.

No I wasn't. You guys seem to have trouble recognizing a question. I told him to get it through his thick skull, I never asked him anything.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

And your rational premis for a thick skull is that you don't understand him or he doesn't understand you?

His continued insistence that I hold a position I have clearly stated several times I do not hold. :)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

Another person being robbed by their ESL teacher.

Nope, none of those reasons are a necessity, therefore no needs given, only reasons one may want to. Looks like you were the one robbed.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ifmaz

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

You've stated there is no "rational reason" for a civilian to own such a firearm,

Correct

quote:

thus implying there were reasons a civilian should not own one.

Only in your mind. Like I said, you are extrapolating a position I have not only never taken, one I have specifically said I do not hold.

quote:

What are those reasons?

Hell, you tell me, after all, you are making up my position, so you may as well keep on making shit up.

If there is no reason a civilian should not own such a rifle, they can (and should) own it. Many, in fact, because there's no rational reason not to.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

As to your inquiry regarding reasons not to buy a semi-automatic rifle;

For me personally, as for many millions of others, I've just never felt the need for, and have never had the urge to own a gun of any sort.

I've known gun owners all my life, so it's possible that long ago I might have given some bit of thought to it, but I don't consciously recall it.

In any case I just never gave much thought as to why. People usually give more thought to actions they are contemplating than those they are not.

I, actually, owned guns for probably twenty years before I bought a semi-automatic rifle. I bought one...or so...specifically because the government was going to ban them. Which just shows you how well liberal policies ever work. Come to think of it, until then I didn't even own semi-auto pistols. I had revolvers, bolt and lever action rifles and shotguns. Clinton's (the rapist not the rape justifier and crook) gun ban inspired me to own that which I had never before desired.

I got my first automatic rifle when I was 18, as a grauduation/Christmas present. This was long enough ago that it was legal. My preference is a lever action, and I prefer revolvers. I carry and automatic most of the time because they are easier to conceal but my handgun of preference is a colt sa clone.
As I see it, if someone doesn't want to own a firearm that is their business, I have no right to tell them to get one, just as they have no right to tell me I can't.
Also a revolver, a lever, or a pump, are just as deadly as an automatic, and that harping about automatics is just a smoke screen to go after all guns.

Since the gun ban of '94 my tastes have changed more than once. Sometimes I buy something I'd in the past sworn I'd never own. Now, pretty much I prefer a gun suited to the task. The places I hunt aren't conducive to lever guns, the shots tend to be longer. As you said, concealing a revolver is difficult. But I tell you there is nothing like the feel of a SAA and I hunt with a Freedom Arms. And I consider "nothing like the feel" to be a task which deserves to be suited. Lately I've been doing a lot of long distance shooting and frankly an AR is a 400 yard rifle and not sufficient out to and past 1000 yards. So I've been loading for and shooting diminutive 6.5mm rounds that have bullets with a high BC. (BC said just to be a snob and confuse people but I know you'll understand.)

quote:

I'm assuming you were trying to quote me since my name is down in the bottom right hand corner of your quote. Boy, you just keep stepping in it don't you.