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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 7:28:41 AM   
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This shit is all a setup, nothing more than another planned think tank operation. Relax gun laws while allowing cops to shoot innocent people assuring that people will retaliate against gubmint giving them plenty of propaganda material to gain support to take away or severely restrict guns. On the other side of that same coin, there is evidence to show that whenever gun sales in america slows there is an incident which send people running to buy guns.
Dude, that is fucking madness right there. Your desire to believe in conspiracy theories is a mental illness. And your psychological dependency on the gun shouts to the world about your weakness.

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Seriously is anyone surprised this is happening? Its all calculated.
No it's not, you nutty schizophrenic. Your society is tearing itself apart because you're all armed and afraid of your neighbours. If your society doesn't address this, you are going to descend into anarchy.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 7:33:48 AM   
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Bodycam shows officer shoot [UNARMED] man wearing headphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mezvCg0A5c
That cop is clearly mentally unbalanced and shot the guy for not responding to his commands. He should be prosecuted for murder.


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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 7:48:04 AM   
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You know all u anti gun idiots anght to actually statistics. Actually the safest states in the United States has the least restrictive gun laws. But you listen to Pure Evil liberal news media. Chicago Washington DC New York City has the strictest gun laws in the United States and also has the highest death buy guns of anywhere else in the US. England tried that they banned all guns even from their own police the Bobbies. Except for they figured out that the corrupt and Evil still got guns just like they do now what percentage of the shootings are done buy people legally own a firearm next to none. You know it used to be that farmers we're never robbed because every one of them had shotguns and other weapons in the house for hunting and food. Since I'll be farming ground has been turned completely into Agricultural and no set aside tree rows anymore and very few have guns for hunting or any other purpose so now Farmers property is vandalized and robbed about as much as any other place wake up people doesn't matter how many guns you eliminate the only ones you're going to stop is the people that legally own them the crook always will have guns. Chicago you're not even allowed to have a BB pistol or rifle you can be arrested for it and how many people was killed by firearms in Chicago maybe you ought to look it up and see liberals have to be the most ignorant human beings ever put on this Earth.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 8:00:00 AM   
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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 8:04:09 AM   
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Greta, you are assuming there were only the officers that were being fired on present in Dallas, which is a false assumption, once more proving your grasp of modern police methodology, tactics and personnel deployment is severely lacking.

What's more, is your complete refusal to accept or inability to comprehend information passed on to you, your inability to use simple search engines such as google to research any thing to prevent you from post complete bullshit on a repeated basis.

In the videos I saw, it really looked like all the officers were huddled and cornered and being shot at and helpless. And the situation got so dire and helpless that they needed to use a robot to bomb the shooter instead of being able to hit him through their own shooting.
That's what I saw. They had a formidable opponent.
I mean, police using bombs to kill dangerous shooters gotta be the first ever in this whole universe.
Military might have used it often, but Police? Also using bombs in a very modern looking city condition. That's really desperate situation, desperate measures. And anyway, the number of death toll and injuries of the police speak volumes to how helpless the police was in that situation. And they were just against one enemy.
It's just such an unusual world happening now that ya know, police are now the victims. And when I see them getting killed, I no longer see them as professionals, but regular humans who need help when in trouble too.



Greta, they used a drone because it was expedient, not because the situation was dire, and it is not the first time a police department in the US used a bomb to deal with armed individuals. Google 1985, MOVE stand off in Philadelphia, of course, the police ended up burning down a whole freaking neighborhood.

The use of the drone might have also had to do with the fact that suspect was in a position that would have put officers at more of a risk to try and get him, still not a dire situation.

The suspect was in a room on the second floor of a building at the dead end of a hallway. Hallways are not conducive for maintaining health when some one is shooting at you. You got no place to hide, no cover.

So they got their trusty bomb disposal robot, tried negotiating and the idiot didnt want no part of that, so they sent the robot in with a bomb. Let idiot shoot the hell out of the robot.

Of course, in the time it took for the robot to cover the distance, idiot shooting at robot could have gotten a clue that his bullets are not stopping robot and surrendered anytime prior to robot arriving in his proximity with bomb.

In other words, the videos you have seen do not cover the entire incident. So once more you have taken a infinitesimally small bit of information and used it to make an absurdly stupid statement.

Now, about the shooter in Baton Rouge.

It seems our shooter followed some extremely bizarre African American seperatist movement philosophy concerning the Washitaw Nation, which uses a considerable amount of revisionist history and belong to the Sovereign Citizen movement, which seems to think that the highest level of government is the county.

The sovereign citizen movement is well known for finding justification for shooting any and everyone regardless of color, one incident involved a follower of this philosophy who shot two volunteer firefighters who were blocking the road (it must be noted the road was blocked so that fire fighting equipment could be positioned to fight a structure fire.)

Now, the African American adoption of the movement (previously noted for being rooted in white racist/antisemitic views) is a new phenomenon.

So, in the case of the Baton Rouge shooter, things have gone from being a man protesting the shooting of blacks by white cops to a man shooting cops because he considered himself part of an Native American nation indigenous by virtue of all the slaves brought to the US for 315 years.

FYI there is a real Native American Nation called the Ouachita, or was until it was assimilated into the Natchitoches tribe in the 1720's (sort of things happens when your numbers are decimated cause some jackasses introduced small pox to the continent.)

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 9:28:48 AM   
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While I think the FBI did a lousy job, we do have a bedrock priciple of law of innocent until proven guilty, sounds like you have guilty untill proven innocent.
That certainly fits with your judgement on cops.

Actually, anybody showing support for ISIS or Al Queda, to me, is not an innocent already, by supporting murderers. Just that, US require the terrorist supporter to commit his own terrorism activity FIRST before being seen as guilty, to be proven guilty. I guess it comes back to, we prosecute thought crime, and US does not. So the fact that he supports Al Queda or ISIS makes him guilty in our eyes, and the onus is for him to prove that his not plotting anything with them to harm civilians in our country, that's the difference on how we look at it. And until he prove he is innocent of not plotting anything, his not getting out of jail.


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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 9:33:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
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Bodycam shows officer shoot [UNARMED] man wearing headphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mezvCg0A5c
That cop is clearly mentally unbalanced and shot the guy for not responding to his commands. He should be prosecuted for murder.

Wow, another unarmed white dude unfairly gun down, shot from the back by a cop. All the more this isn't a racial thing!
The interesting bit is, the cop switch on his body cam and then proceed to shoot the dude! The cop was super confident that, he wasn't doing anything wrong.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 9:35:01 AM   
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While I think the FBI did a lousy job, we do have a bedrock priciple of law of innocent until proven guilty, sounds like you have guilty untill proven innocent.
That certainly fits with your judgement on cops.

Actually, anybody showing support for ISIS or Al Queda, to me, is not an innocent already, by supporting murderers. Just that, US require the terrorist supporter to commit his own terrorism activity FIRST before being seen as guilty, to be proven guilty. I guess it comes back to, we prosecute thought crime, and US does not.


Sure we prosecute thought crimes. But as of yet, only liberal thought crimes like being micro aggressive. Don't you worry though, the longer we have people like Obama in power, the more thought crimes they'll implement.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 9:42:27 AM   
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Sure we prosecute thought crimes. But as of yet, only liberal thought crimes like being micro aggressive. Don't you worry though, the longer we have people like Obama in power, the more thought crimes they'll implement.

I think freedom of expression is one of the constitution again, so don't think US is legally able to prosecute thought crime any time soon.
But the problem with Libs is the double standards if they actually can implement it. They will protect Muslims from criticism, but don't prosecute Muslims for supporting terrorism.
For us, no such unfair treatment. Like we will prosecute christians for suggesting the killing of gay people or whatever, we will prosecute muslims who support isis.



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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 11:39:54 AM   
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While I think the FBI did a lousy job, we do have a bedrock priciple of law of innocent until proven guilty, sounds like you have guilty untill proven innocent.
That certainly fits with your judgement on cops.

Actually, anybody showing support for ISIS or Al Queda, to me, is not an innocent already, by supporting murderers. Just that, US require the terrorist supporter to commit his own terrorism activity FIRST before being seen as guilty, to be proven guilty. I guess it comes back to, we prosecute thought crime, and US does not. So the fact that he supports Al Queda or ISIS makes him guilty in our eyes, and the onus is for him to prove that his not plotting anything with them to harm civilians in our country, that's the difference on how we look at it. And until he prove he is innocent of not plotting anything, his not getting out of jail.




You know, I really like the 'innocent till proven guilty' theory a lot better. One of the reasons we got so pissed off at the brits a couple of centuries ago, being jailed with no charges or proof.

Now that system may have a few drawbacks, but the whole "big brother" shtick is for the birds. I do not like the idea of the government knowing everything I do, what I spend my money on or where I go.

Which is why I find it funny as hell that people from other countries bust on the US for not doing just that. Hell London has more security cameras per block than any other city, followed closely by Singapore.

But hey, someone got pissed and said he was gonna kill someone or blow something up, heat of the moment thing, everyone has done it, but from now on we gonna throw his ass in prison.

Guilty till proven innocent my ass.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 12:57:30 PM   
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While I think the FBI did a lousy job, we do have a bedrock priciple of law of innocent until proven guilty, sounds like you have guilty untill proven innocent.
That certainly fits with your judgement on cops.

Actually, anybody showing support for ISIS or Al Queda, to me, is not an innocent already, by supporting murderers. Just that, US require the terrorist supporter to commit his own terrorism activity FIRST before being seen as guilty, to be proven guilty. I guess it comes back to, we prosecute thought crime, and US does not.


Sure we prosecute thought crimes. But as of yet, only liberal thought crimes like being micro aggressive. Don't you worry though, the longer we have people like Obama in power, the more thought crimes they'll implement.


Yeah, nutsuckers are worried about marriage and bathroom, they only have thought crimes in their heads.

But thats what nutsuckers legislate.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 2:35:29 PM   
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Maybe we should get back to the subject of the thread.
A faction of racists are using BLM as an excuse to attack cops.
And true to form Obama is meeting, not with the cops, but with BLM to find out what will make them happy.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 2:45:51 PM   
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welfare patients wouldn't know this because fact:

He met with law enforcement and BLM together.
BLM has nothing to do with this.

Nutsuckers are felching. Not what the thread is about, they do that constantly.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 3:23:58 PM   
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While I think the FBI did a lousy job, we do have a bedrock priciple of law of innocent until proven guilty, sounds like you have guilty untill proven innocent.
That certainly fits with your judgement on cops.

Actually, anybody showing support for ISIS or Al Queda, to me, is not an innocent already, by supporting murderers. Just that, US require the terrorist supporter to commit his own terrorism activity FIRST before being seen as guilty, to be proven guilty. I guess it comes back to, we prosecute thought crime, and US does not.


Sure we prosecute thought crimes. But as of yet, only liberal thought crimes like being micro aggressive. Don't you worry though, the longer we have people like Obama in power, the more thought crimes they'll implement.


Yeah, nutsuckers are worried about marriage and bathroom, they only have thought crimes in their heads.

But thats what nutsuckers legislate.

Really off your meds again.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 3:26:18 PM   
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And every time a cop stops me, I never stop questioning them instead of them questioning me! And I am someone who gesture alot with my hands when I talk. Until, they gotta waive me along to move along and stop holding up traffic! I love chatting with cops!


If in real life you come across to others anything like you do in this forum, I can imagine at least 99% of people waiving you along.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 6:55:44 PM   
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But hey, someone got pissed and said he was gonna kill someone or blow something up, heat of the moment thing, everyone has done it, but from now on we gonna throw his ass in prison.

If someone said he was gonna kill just someone, unless he threatened to kill the Prime Minister or something, I don't think he would get arrested. A police report may be made, and the guy may be warned.

He has to say he wants to kill an entire group of people base on gender, sexual orientation, race or religion. Supporting ISIS and Al Queda means they wanna kill specifically non-muslims and all the "Not Muslim Enough". So that is a crime.



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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 6:59:29 PM   
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A faction of racists are using BLM as an excuse to attack cops.

Well not really, they are motivated by the same thing that BLM is.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 7:02:46 PM   
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A faction of racists are using BLM as an excuse to attack cops.

Well not really, they are motivated by the same thing that BLM is.

I was avoiding being accused of BLM for the actions of a few racist scum. Usually from people who blame all gun owners for the actions of a few.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 7:03:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
While I think the FBI did a lousy job, we do have a bedrock priciple of law of innocent until proven guilty, sounds like you have guilty untill proven innocent.
That certainly fits with your judgement on cops.

Actually, anybody showing support for ISIS or Al Queda, to me, is not an innocent already, by supporting murderers. Just that, US require the terrorist supporter to commit his own terrorism activity FIRST before being seen as guilty, to be proven guilty. I guess it comes back to, we prosecute thought crime, and US does not.


Sure we prosecute thought crimes. But as of yet, only liberal thought crimes like being micro aggressive. Don't you worry though, the longer we have people like Obama in power, the more thought crimes they'll implement.


Yeah, nutsuckers are worried about marriage and bathroom, they only have thought crimes in their heads.

But thats what nutsuckers legislate.

Really off your meds again.

nope, you are still a nutsucker felching your horseshit, you drug addict.

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RE: 2cops dead in baton rouge - 7/18/2016 7:04:54 PM   
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But hey, someone got pissed and said he was gonna kill someone or blow something up, heat of the moment thing, everyone has done it, but from now on we gonna throw his ass in prison.

If someone said he was gonna kill just someone, unless he threatened to kill the Prime Minister or something, I don't think he would get arrested. A police report may be made, and the guy may be warned.

He has to say he wants to kill an entire group of people base on gender, sexual orientation, race or religion. Supporting ISIS and Al Queda means they wanna kill specifically non-muslims and all the "Not Muslim Enough". So that is a crime.





And you claim the US is fucked up. Christ you have no idea how many times I have stated I want to kill the idiots at DFW airport who came up with the brilliant idea of renovating a terminal and at the same time, take down the parking garage with 2/3's of the parking spaces for the part of the terminal still in operation.... which means you park your car and walk two miles to the terminal, real fun when the person you are picking up from the airport is in a cast due to broken leg.



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