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It would be immensely helpful in taking you seriously other than had you not claimed that Zimmerman had every right to ignore a police department-hired dispatcher while claiming that a 17 yr. old kid on his way back from the store while talking to his girl friend should have stopped in his tracks when somebody who obviously had no respect for the law, wearing a red sweatshirt and breathing heavily, was accosting him.

That's not what I said. That's your opinion of what I said.

K.

You went on relentlessly to that effect for at least three months after Tayvon Martin's killing.

If you don't want to own up to it, then so be it.

I grew up with guys like Tayvon Martin. I did not at all appreciate people like you rubbing it in about his unfortunate demise, or that he should have bowed to massa, etc. when "massa" himself was a nutjob.

Your and Bama's relentless insistence that being followed closely down the street by somebody else was nothing to be concerned about was about as disingenuous as it gets. It was supposed to be 'nothing to be concerned about' as long as the followed was a black guy and the follower was white, or close enough to being not black. Had it been one or two comments to that effect, 'no harm, no foul,' as they say. But you just kept on with it.

You guys have guns, I don't, and never had. You guys are not born southerners, I am. You guys are scared shitless, I'm not. Your world is not my world, or anything close to it, safe to say. I got followed by people of ill intent when I was a teenager, by black guys, Puerto Rican guys, faggots, etc. but by far more so by white hetero guys up to no good. I displayed all this and all you guys did, instead of understanding real life situations, was to blow it away and play it down. You guys have no clue, and made that into a display of pride.

I was 'afraid' when I was a kid, I have no trouble in admitting. But I grew up, and got a clue, and eventually understood that there were others much bigger than I was who were afraid too. I don't care if I get killed tomorrow, it only changes things by a few years. Most people do not have that understanding and live every day scared shitless.

I don't make up shit in my head. I am not a teenager anymore. I enjoy life as it comes to me. Tayvon Martin reminded me of one of the few bright spots in my early years, he was just like a guy I knew way back when.

I lost one of my brothers a year and a half ago too, who would have been custom made for a guy like Tayvon as a friend. Maybe that's why I got so upset about it.

It doesn't bother me so much that one or another guy died. Shit happens. It was the barely disguised jumping up and down cheering about it that galled me.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon.

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If that is the kind of people you choose as friends then it is no wonder you don't want people to be able to defend themselves.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon. If that is the kind of people you choose as friends then it is no wonder you don't want people to be able to defend themselves.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon.

So then, your neighborhood is overrun with guys going to the store and buying a pack of Skittles, and talking to their girlfriend on the cell phone on their way home.

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I keep looking but not finding what in this situation is supposed to put a sane and rational person in fear.

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If that is the kind of people you choose as friends then it is no wonder you don't want people to be able to defend themselves.

Actually, we didn't have Skittles back in the day, as I'm sure you are aware. But yes, there were still guys who walked to the store and then went back home, myself included. And yes, a few of them were friends, however much that condemns me in your estimation.

As I said earlier, "You guys are scared shitless, I'm not."

I am not an advocate of denying people firearms in their own home if that is their choice.

But at the same time, I have no hesitation in pointing out that people who feel threatened by a teenager talking to his girlfriend on the cell phone in public are not the most mentally stable citizens, gun owner or not.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon. If that is the kind of people you choose as friends then it is no wonder you don't want people to be able to defend themselves.

Presumably punching some guy who's stalking you doesn't come under self defence where you live, then.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon.

So then, your neighborhood is overrun with guys going to the store and buying a pack of Skittles, and talking to their girlfriend on the cell phone on their way home.

No I am surrounded by people who will punch you out for walking on the public sidewalk and noticing you slinking through peoples back yards.
Martin attacked Zimmerman, not the other way around.

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It's an apartment complex, there weren't any back yards. In any apartment complex I've lived in or visited, lots of people walk any side of any building on a regular basis.

The apartments have terraces and patios that open onto a back yard area, a grassy mall, that runs between the rows of buildings.

Google Maps

K.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon. If that is the kind of people you choose as friends then it is no wonder you don't want people to be able to defend themselves.

Presumably punching some guy who's stalking you doesn't come under self defence where you live, then.

If you could attack everyone who walked behind you talking on their phone it would be anarchy.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon.

So then, your neighborhood is overrun with guys going to the store and buying a pack of Skittles, and talking to their girlfriend on the cell phone on their way home.

No I am surrounded by people who will punch you out for walking on the public sidewalk and noticing you slinking through peoples back yards.
Martin attacked Zimmerman, not the other way around.

It's an apartment complex, there weren't any back yards. In any apartment complex I've lived in or visited, lots of people walk any side of any building on a regular basis. Trayvon was winding a path that many other dwellers did, nothing unusual about it at all to anyone but Zimmerman, otherwise there would likely have been calls from apartment dwellers.The mouth breather Zimmerman was stalking, by any legal definition of the term, an innocent citizen and Trayvon had every legal right to defend himself.

Zimmerman called 911 before Martin even got to the property grounds, saying "these assholes always get away" as he ignored the instructions of proper authority and commenced stalking and harassing a teenager talking on a cell phone on his way home.

And yes, I grew up in a neighborhood where guys big enough to do it would unhesitatingly punch your lights out if you were stalking them, whether the stalker or stalkee be black or white or Latino.

I'm sorry you apparently feel 'threatened' by the fact you can't just stalk anyone you like with out bringing potential harm upon yourself for that most basic social stupidity as considered in any neighborhood.

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Read my post, I didn't say a word about stalking people.

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Although I have questioned people about messing around my neighbors yards when I knew the neighbors were out of town, I guess you think they should have tried to beat my head into the ground for that.

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Zimmerman wasn't stalking him, you know that.

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Yeah, no. But you're essentially begging for someone to throw a net over you.

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Read my post, I didn't say a word about stalking people.

Of course you didn't. Reality is something you avoid like the plague. But there is no legal dispute that that's exactly what Zimmerman was doing.

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Although I have questioned people about messing around my neighbors yards when I knew the neighbors were out of town, I guess you think they should have tried to beat my head into the ground for that.

Comparing apples to lamp shades, that's all you got.

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Zimmerman wasn't stalking him, you know that.

You and the other racist bitches are the only ones who don't know what any lawyer or judge would recognize as stalking. If Zimmerman hadn't had a gun, he would have gotten the crap beaten out of him in any city in the world if trying to pull that stunt. But like you, Zimmerman was a complete chicken shit, he knew in advance that he was in the wrong in any social sense, so so he carried a weapon in anticipation of the expected negative response to his aggressive actions.

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My neighborhood is overrun with people like Travon. If that is the kind of people you choose as friends then it is no wonder you don't want people to be able to defend themselves.

Presumably punching some guy who's stalking you doesn't come under self defence where you live, then.

If you could attack everyone who walked behind you talking on their phone it would be anarchy.

Because, of course, the cop groupie didn't accost the dead thug and demand to to know where he was going or anything.

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There certainly wasn't anarchy in my neighborhood from that situation of "If you could attack everyone who walked behind you," which however was a rare event because most people weren't that stupid.

In any real world experience, the only reason a guy stalks you closely is because he estimates that he can get the better of you, and that would be every stalkee's assessment of the situation.

Bama is essentially defending the rights of child molesters to defend themselves against their victims.

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ETA: And Zimmerman did get the crap beat out of him.