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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:04:11 PM   
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You seem to be saying that colusion is the rule and that the free market has no effect.

That's about right.
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Prices are controlled by the corporations and not by supply and demand?

Not in every industry, but basically yeah.

Well, we'll wait for Ed to explain how what I said isnt true in your, "Not in every industry."

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:05:07 PM   
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When you helped those people start businesses, how did you explain to them that while they wanted to make a dollar, the government would come in and take 30% of that dollar and they were not allowed to consider that as an operating expense, but rather a gift to the socialist system and they'd just have to accept that and lower their expectations? Maybe you'll explain that to me now?


One has to wonder how you got to be so old and stupid at the same time?
It takes a special kind of stupid to call taxes a gift to the socialist system. F35s cost about $300 million a copy. The carrier that it lands on a bit more. If it were not for the amerikan military the corporations in amerika would only be doing business domestically.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:11:21 PM   
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Corporations, of any size, don't pay taxes. They just pass through that expense to you and me. It's just a hidden tax the government has and that lefties like to rail about.

You seem to be saying that colusion is the rule and that the free market has no effect. Prices are controlled by the corporations and not by supply and demand?



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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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You seem to be saying that colusion is the rule and that the free market has no effect.

That's about right.
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Prices are controlled by the corporations and not by supply and demand?

Not in every industry, but basically yeah.


You guys are expecting too much, considering the DUT, (dullwit under test).

The 'Industrial Organization and Regulation' class was an eye opener, I must say.

What we read in class and what we saw in the WSJ was about as 180 as it gets. The class, the text book, the professor, were not "lying" to us, all that was just explication of how things are supposed to work, which I consider useful information.

Which is why I quit reading the WSJ in the public library after the second time I yelled out "What horse shit!"

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:14:03 PM   
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Corporations, of any size, don't pay taxes. They just pass through that expense to you and me. It's just a hidden tax the government has and that lefties like to rail about.



You seem to be saying that colusion is the rule and that the free market has no effect. Prices are controlled by the corporations and not by supply and demand?


Opinions vary.


Heads up dumbass. The little squiggly line at the end of the sentence...that means it is a question and not a statement.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:14:43 PM   
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When you helped those people start businesses, how did you explain to them that while they wanted to make a dollar, the government would come in and take 30% of that dollar and they were not allowed to consider that as an operating expense, but rather a gift to the socialist system and they'd just have to accept that and lower their expectations? Maybe you'll explain that to me now?


One has to wonder how you got to be so old and stupid at the same time?
It takes a special kind of stupid to call taxes a gift to the socialist system. F35s cost about $300 million a copy. The carrier that it lands on a bit more. If it were not for the amerikan military the corporations in amerika would only be doing business domestically.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



God, reading comprehension again. That's Ed's thesis. I asked him to explain it. I see, though, you're just as confused by what he said. I said the tax was a cost of doing business that is passed through to people like you and me. That it's a hidden tax the government places on people. Of course government costs money. But, corporations don't pay for that, they pass that cost on to people as the cost of doing business.

Think about it Thompson. When you go to the butt hut and pay $100 for head. Then, say, the government comes in and charges them an extra tax. Do you think they are going to go home with less money for giving them head? Or are they going to raise the cost of your blow job to cover the tax and go home with the same amount they always do?

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:17:15 PM   
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The simple solution is to put me on hide then.

And miss your particularly funny brand of stupid? Not a chance.

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Not your average bimbo.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:18:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Corporations, of any size, don't pay taxes. They just pass through that expense to you and me. It's just a hidden tax the government has and that lefties like to rail about.

You seem to be saying that colusion is the rule and that the free market has no effect. Prices are controlled by the corporations and not by supply and demand?



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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

You seem to be saying that colusion is the rule and that the free market has no effect.

That's about right.
quote:

Prices are controlled by the corporations and not by supply and demand?

Not in every industry, but basically yeah.


You guys are expecting too much, considering the DUT, (dullwit under test).

The 'Industrial Organization and Regulation' class was an eye opener, I must say.

What we read in class and what we saw in the WSJ was about as 180 as it gets. The class, the text book, the professor, were not "lying" to us, all that was just explication of how things are supposed to work, which I consider useful information.

Which is why I quit reading the WSJ in the public library after the second time I yelled out "What horse shit!"


Oh the glory days. Still dancing Ed. Explain how a corporation doesn't consider a tax an operating expense and just absorbs that cost as a profit loss? You had the three semesters Ed, use that experience and explain.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:22:22 PM   
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I have only known three people crazy enough to stalk me.
And I mean actually stalk, not walk in the same direction on the same sidewalk as I was. I have never known anyone that crazy who was also that stupid.


Omg...two bad asses on the same thread.



You caught me!~

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:28:20 PM   
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Oh the glory days. Still dancing Ed. Explain how a corporation doesn't consider a tax an operating expense and just absorbs that cost as a profit loss? You had the three semesters Ed, use that experience and explain.


If anything from the math or accounting department, I'm used to coherent statement of whatever problem to be solved.

If you ever get to the level of asking a coherent question regarding any subject, I'm all ears.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:31:14 PM   
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When you helped those people start businesses, how did you explain to them that while they wanted to make a dollar, the government would come in and take 30% of that dollar and they were not allowed to consider that as an operating expense, but rather a gift to the socialist system and they'd just have to accept that and lower their expectations? Maybe you'll explain that to me now?


One has to wonder how you got to be so old and stupid at the same time?
It takes a special kind of stupid to call taxes a gift to the socialist system. F35s cost about $300 million a copy. The carrier that it lands on a bit more. If it were not for the amerikan military the corporations in amerika would only be doing business domestically.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



To expand on "Taxes" beating up on productive businesses, every urban state on the planet is running about 42% of Gross Domestic Product to maintain the social organization and infrastructure that makes 'commerce', and some semblance of normal life, possible. For the larger states, this includes Defense. States take the money different places. N. European states hit worker salaries hard. And give back handsomely with health benefits and 'social safety net'. The US has an unbelievable number of 'hidden' taxes, some calculations are over 150 taxes on 'bread' by the time you pay for the packaged loaf at your market. Which are Very regressive taxes on the lowest income families. And Nails the middle and upper middle class with explicit taxes, the working classes Having no money left after paying current prices for food, housing and transportation, and the rich paying a small percentage of their rightful proportion as 'campaign contributions' so they get virually zero taxes from legislators dependent on them for political survival. Interestingly, the class paying by far the most formal taxes is also the most emotional about supporting the Republicans, precisely the legislators most involved with taxing them out of existence.
All corporations pay 'taxes', other than those more successful at manipulating the local laws to their benefit, which includes many US operating multi-nationals. These don't 'pass on' the taxes entire to consumers, as no marketeer can exceed the competing market much and keep any volume.
Where 'collusion' comes in (If not actual back room agreements, quite common) is how most marketing is in relation to 'existing prices', which each seller closely tracks, and Never undercuts more than just enough to be noticed by some buyers. Or, meets the market and spends for advertising attempting to separate their brand from the competitors. Nobody prices by actual costs plus a reasonable margin, unless they are retarded or have a Fail wish, unless that is the actual market price.
When 'products' become 'commodities', prices drop to the lowest cost supplier who only charges enough to maintain operational margins, trying to maximize market share and hopefully drive out competitors so they can Raise prices again. But most commodities are Very market driven prices, and far more profitable to speculate in than to produce.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:34:07 PM   
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Oh the glory days. Still dancing Ed. Explain how a corporation doesn't consider a tax an operating expense and just absorbs that cost as a profit loss? You had the three semesters Ed, use that experience and explain.


If anything from the math or accounting department, I'm used to coherent statement of whatever problem to be solved.

If you ever get to the level of asking a coherent question regarding any subject, I'm all ears.

Lol, what a dance. How is a tax not a cost of business that's passed through to a consumer?

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:42:51 PM   
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That is actually what I said to begin with, from the start, never said any different.

Your hallucinatory interpretation of what was actually said notwithstanding.

I put the question to you, and you failed to answer;

How is that different than any other cost of goods?

I didn't expect you to respond, because I know that you are incapable of it.

Just shut up and save yourself further embarrassment.


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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:47:59 PM   
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Who's the commie, here?
Me.


What is not to love about a commie?

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:50:12 PM   
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When you helped those people start businesses, how did you explain to them that while they wanted to make a dollar, the government would come in and take 30% of that dollar and they were not allowed to consider that as an operating expense, but rather a gift to the socialist system and they'd just have to accept that and lower their expectations? Maybe you'll explain that to me now?


One has to wonder how you got to be so old and stupid at the same time?
It takes a special kind of stupid to call taxes a gift to the socialist system. F35s cost about $300 million a copy. The carrier that it lands on a bit more. If it were not for the amerikan military the corporations in amerika would only be doing business domestically.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



To expand on "Taxes" beating up on productive businesses, every urban state on the planet is running about 42% of Gross Domestic Product to maintain the social organization and infrastructure that makes 'commerce', and some semblance of normal life, possible. For the larger states, this includes Defense. States take the money different places. N. European states hit worker salaries hard. And give back handsomely with health benefits and 'social safety net'. The US has an unbelievable number of 'hidden' taxes, some calculations are over 150 taxes on 'bread' by the time you pay for the packaged loaf at your market. Which are Very regressive taxes on the lowest income families. And Nails the middle and upper middle class with explicit taxes, the working classes Having no money left after paying current prices for food, housing and transportation, and the rich paying a small percentage of their rightful proportion as 'campaign contributions' so they get virually zero taxes from legislators dependent on them for political survival. Interestingly, the class paying by far the most formal taxes is also the most emotional about supporting the Republicans, precisely the legislators most involved with taxing them out of existence.
All corporations pay 'taxes', other than those more successful at manipulating the local laws to their benefit, which includes many US operating multi-nationals. These don't 'pass on' the taxes entire to consumers, as no marketeer can exceed the competing market much and keep any volume.
Where 'collusion' comes in (If not actual back room agreements, quite common) is how most marketing is in relation to 'existing prices', which each seller closely tracks, and Never undercuts more than just enough to be noticed by some buyers. Or, meets the market and spends for advertising attempting to separate their brand from the competitors. Nobody prices by actual costs plus a reasonable margin, unless they are retarded or have a Fail wish, unless that is the actual market price.
When 'products' become 'commodities', prices drop to the lowest cost supplier who only charges enough to maintain operational margins, trying to maximize market share and hopefully drive out competitors so they can Raise prices again. But most commodities are Very market driven prices, and far more profitable to speculate in than to produce.

Well, that's a good little socialist projection while wearing an aluminum hat. But, but, I thought you said you couldn't answer because I'd made no coherent statement. I guess you were lying when you said that across the board to all butt huts.

Now, let's tale Thompson's blow job. The going rate is...say $100 because I don't know what the going rate is. So, in this case the government comes in and places a $10 per transaction tax. Tell me how the butt hut gets into the back room, or is that more of your aluminum hat talking, and comes up with a marketing plan to get Thompson to come in extra times to spend more of his welfare check to cover it. Or, how they decide to get a lower price whores (suppliers) and tell all of the existing whores to just go away. And if they can get lower price whores, why didn't they do that in the first place? Or tell me how they nickel and dime the $10 tax down lower and still take less profit? As a gift to Thompson?

Now I grant you they may use the tax to "raise prices again" but, isn't that still just a pass through. Won't some butt hut down the street market to Thompson that they aren't asking $12 to pay the $10 tax?

Your comment that all corporations pay taxes is actually true. But tell me how they don't pass that cost of business on to consumers.

You've said nothing. My pure just danced and tried to look like three semesters of accountancy, which if you were awake would have explained how silly you are, that addresses what I've said.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:53:13 PM   
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Lol, oh dear. Still holding a grudge.


One should question the sanity of a man who intentionally picks a fight with a hormonal /pregnant woman.
If you poke a pit bull with a stick you should not snivel when you pull back bloody stump.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:58:07 PM   
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Lol, oh dear. Still holding a grudge.


One should question the sanity of a man who intentionally picks a fight with a hormonal /pregnant woman.
If you poke a pit bull with a stick you should not snivel when you pull back bloody stump.


True.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 9:58:56 PM   
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My pure just danced ...



While you were shitting yourself and vomiting on your table, you missed the fact that you were responding to the wrong person.

epiphiny43 has granted us the best post, by far, in the latter part of this thread.

Go and sit in the bath tub, boy.






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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 10:00:00 PM   
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That is actually what I said to begin with, from the start, never said any different.

Your hallucinatory interpretation of what was actually said notwithstanding.

I put the question to you, and you failed to answer;

How is that different than any other cost of goods?

I didn't expect you to respond, because I know that you are incapable of it.

Just shut up and save yourself further embarrassment.



Just went through and reread all your post. I don't see where you said that. Please point out in which post you said the above or admit you are lying.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 10:04:45 PM   
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I didn't say you could come out of the bathroom yet.

Stay in there, boy. You stink to high heaven.

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RE: AW SHIT, ANOTHER SENSELESS KILLING BY A WIDE-EYED 2... - 7/21/2016 10:08:01 PM   
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When 'products' become 'commodities', prices drop to the lowest cost supplier who only charges enough to maintain operational margins, trying to maximize market share and hopefully drive out competitors so they can Raise prices again. But most commodities are Very market driven prices, and far more profitable to speculate in than to produce.


You are mistaken about the nature of the production of commodities. You will find that commodities are contrlolled by a very small group. How many companies produce gold,iron,lead,bauxite and comodities of like nature. How many companies produce corn,cotton etc. There are no small producers seeking market share. Maybe a dozen or less in each field. Even beer...how many companies manufacture say 90% of the beer in the world? I would agree that many make money speculating in commodities but the money on the production side is a function of mass...

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