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Nnanji -> RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? (7/20/2016 7:26:39 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
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Actually, if you exclude suicides an gang bangers killing each other in Chicago, Detroit, Wasgington DC, and New Orleans the U.S. has one of the lowest gun crime homicide rates in the world. It is not reasonable to use statistic you don't understand to argue a silly point about our laws about which you know nothing.
Don't be confusing the liberals with facts. There might be some kind of rule against it.
T^T
If you are going to cut suicides, gang deaths, from each country in the lists, I bet you would find a huge drop in their figures also the drop would happen with drug deaths too.
Why not try to work it out???.
BY the way, I bolded it for you but, suicides dont count as "gun homicide rates"
There is a difference between homicide and suicide....
so my advice to you would be.....
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It is not reasonable to use statistic you don't understand to argue a silly point
As you don't see the point through your koolaide haze, may I point out that liberals enjoy lumping all gun deaths into, as vicentml said, shooter deaths. While you have a valid point that maybe other countries could have their rates dropped by excluding this or that, as liberals point out they don't have guns so they are civilized so I imagine the effort to eliminate those things from their stats would be negligible. While I also surmise that they would show an increase in suicide rates via other means. So your point, while well considered is probably moot.
It has been we...as you say the gun nuts...who continually point out that suicide and homicide should not be lumped into one thing. So, I'm pleased to see that you're finally understanding that point and arguing for are side. I guess my positive hill and Bill thing paid off.
There is no point to what you said as it was basically a bad interpretation(lie) of the difference between suicide and homicide, that you brush it off, you will have to show out your working or put up a cite for your ignorance.
Your inability to know the difference really puts your claims into the bullshit realm.
I understand that this is based on 2013 figures but I found it interesting....
http://www.citylab.com/politics/2013/01/gun-violence-us-cities-compared-deadliest-nations-world/4412/
The map below compares the rate of gun murders in American cities to nations around the world. Building upon Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data used in that post, Zara Matheson of the Martin Prosperity Institute compiled additional data from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime and other sources collated by The Guardian. (While international crime data suffer from significant reporting and comparison issues, homicide data is more reliable. As the Urban Institute's John Roman points out, it is the one type of crime that is "hard to fake" and also most likely to be reported.)
[image]http://cdn.citylab.com/media/img/citylab/legacy/2013/01/18/homicide_metro_country%20(2)web.jpg[/image]
The pattern is staggering. A number of U.S. cities have gun homicide rates in line with the most deadly nations in the world.
If it were a country, New Orleans (with a rate 62.1 gun murders per 100,000 people) would rank second in the world.
Detroit's gun homicide rate (35.9) is just a bit less than El Salvador (39.9).
Baltimore's rate (29.7) is not too far off that of Guatemala (34.8).
Gun murder in Newark (25.4) and Miami (23.7) is comparable to Colombia (27.1).
Washington D.C. (19) has a higher rate of gun homicide than Brazil (18.1).
Atlanta's rate (17.2) is about the same as South Africa (17).
Cleveland (17.4) has a higher rate than the Dominican Republic (16.3).
Gun murder in Buffalo (16.5) is similar to Panama (16.2).
Houston's rate (12.9) is slightly higher than Ecuador's (12.7).
Gun homicide in Chicago (11.6) is similar to Guyana (11.5).
Phoenix's rate (10.6) is slightly higher than Mexico (10).
Los Angeles (9.2) is comparable to the Philippines (8.9).
Boston rate (6.2) is higher than Nicaragua (5.9).
New York, where gun murders have declined to just four per 100,000, is still higher than Argentina (3).
Even the cities with the lowest homicide rates by American standards, like San Jose and Austin, compare to Albania and Cambodia respectively.
Yes, it's true we are comparing American cities to nations. But most of these countries here have relatively small populations, in many cases comparable to large U.S. metros.
The sad reality is that many American cities have rates of gun homicides comparable to the some of the most violent nations in the world.
And what would you suggest we can learn from that?
Oh, and I think you're funny. That passive aggressive nature is so strong in you. You just can't help it.
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