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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 10:43:35 PM   
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FR I though you lefties wanted cops to shoot people in the leg? Make up my fuckin mind already!!!


They do not give mall cops guns so you won't have to make that decission.

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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 10:52:08 PM   
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My only problem with stories like that, is, there is police brutality going on to both WHITE and BLACK people, and more to white people which don't get buzz EVEN when posted.


I think you are lying again....no wait you are lying again...you do it by telling half truths and whole lies.
Why do you hate black people?

So by only focusing on incidences of black people, does cause unnecessary racial tensions, AS IF only specifically black people are targeted.

That seems to be the consensus.
I think that many black people might agree with you that the cops need to spend more time murdering white people since the facts show quite clearly that since whites make up about 70% of the population and blacks only make up about 13% of the population the ratio of white to blacks murdered by the cops needs to be about 5 or 6 to 1


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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 10:59:13 PM   
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I actually don't, but jeebus, can you imagine a 26 yr. old punk screaming directly into an 87 yr. old guy's face who can barely walk? I'm not even going to pull the 'if you don't care about your own parents as much' thing, but really ...

Of course I can't do anything about it, that is the way of thugs. But no question that punk-ass police are on my shit list for life.

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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:00:19 PM   
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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:03:54 PM   
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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:05:05 PM   
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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:07:03 PM   
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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:08:07 PM   
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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:10:09 PM   
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since the facts show quite clearly that since whites make up about 70% of the population and blacks only make up about 13% of the population the ratio of white to blacks murdered by the cops needs to be about 5 or 6 to 1

Thompson, this is the problem. Jail cells also have more blacks in ratio to their population than whites in ratio to their population.

USA is the ONLY country in the world, who views this as racism. When the reality is, black community do have problems that need solving. Blaming this on racism will not solve the problem of more black people getting in trouble with the law in correspondence to race ratio.

No other countries go look into things like this and bring up race. And most countries will have a specific race that has more ratio in prison despite being minorities. Their focus, would be, how to help and keep these specific group of race out of jail, since they need help the most. And then efforts is fully concentrated into helping them NOT land in jail. That's how our world operate.

IF it's police brutality, focus on police brutality! The whole police brutality is now side tracked because BLM started a racial war which distracts from the real issue. The REAL ISSUE is not race related.

It's only race related IF there was literally no police brutality against white people. But fact is, there is police brutality against all types of races. It's not a race thing that idiots like you keep lying about.


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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:14:56 PM   
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When a country decides to privatize the prison system, new and stricter laws sprout like weeds.

That is the reality.


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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:18:42 PM   
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I actually don't, but jeebus, can you imagine a 26 yr. old punk screaming directly into an 87 yr. old guy's face who can barely walk? I'm not even going to pull the 'if you don't care about your own parents as much' thing, but really ...

Of course I can't do anything about it, that is the way of thugs. But no question that punk-ass police are on my shit list for life.

I read something like this, and I feel the total difference already.
Because if that happened to my grandma in my country, I can totally do SOMETHING about it. And that police will be disciplined for it I guarantee it, as that is not acceptable police behaviour to bully seniors. Like no Ministers or police chief is going to be okay with this. And they will take it seriously. In some ways, we uphold police officers here to be role model citizens as well in how they treat people. They have a responsibility to show better behaviour than the general public.

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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:20:53 PM   
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since the facts show quite clearly that since whites make up about 70% of the population and blacks only make up about 13% of the population the ratio of white to blacks murdered by the cops needs to be about 5 or 6 to 1



Thompson, this is the problem. Jail cells also have more blacks in ratio to their population than whites in ratio to their population.

Why do you think that is?

USA is the ONLY country in the world, who views this as racism. When the reality is, black community do have problems that need solving.


What are those problems?

Blaming this on racism will not solve the problem of more black people getting in trouble with the law in correspondence to race ratio.


I am sure you remember the furgistan thread and the uproar about cops killing blacks and all that. Did you happen to read the doj report on that incident? If not perhaps you might give it a glance.
The doj found that the cops were robbing the black citizens of that town at gun point. Arresting and imprisoning black people for things that are not crimes.
Give it a read and let me know your thoughts.

No other countries go look into things like this or ever bring up race.


That is one of the really kewel things about amerika isn't it?


And most countries will have a specific race that has more ratio in prison despite being minorities.


Is this your ignorant unsubstantiated peurile opinion or have you some validtion for this moronic tripe?

IF it's police brutality, focus on police brutality!

What if the cops only beat up short fat asian women with black hair and big hands who are into bdsm???would you consider that to be targeting?

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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:24:04 PM   
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quote]ORIGINAL: Greta75
I read something like this, and I feel the total difference already.
Because if that happened to my grandma in my country, I can totally do SOMETHING about it. And that police will be disciplined for it I guarantee it, as that is not acceptable police behaviour to bully seniors. [/quote]

That's not how it is in the US.

If a punk police guy terrorizes your parents and you call to register complaint about it, you will probably find a SWAT team outside your door in 15 minutes, if not sooner.

Which is why I didn't call, but at least I got the young punk's name out of it without my dad or me getting shot.




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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:28:04 PM   
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It's only race related IF there was literally no police brutality against white people.


Please do take us thorugh the logic train that produced this ignorance.


But fact is, there is police brutality against all types of races.

They most certainly do with special emphasis on non white.


It's not a race thing that idiots like you keep lying about.

Show me what an idiot I am. Live as a black person in amerika for a year.
Here is a book to show you how.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/168-0168414-7604731?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=black+like+me



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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:39:58 PM   
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What are those problems?

Whatever problems they are getting into that lands them in jail. To me, it always starts with dysfunctional environment, childhood, and upbringing. Any race that has these problems will start having more of their offsprings head towards potential jail time. And they need help, perhaps with free counseling, people going into the community to try improve the relationships in their families. Organizing more healthy events for kids to participate in, maybe sports related. I am sure there are already many private organizations doing these things. But the solution got to come with improving the conditions of these community.

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I am sure you remember the furgistan thread and the uproar about cops killing blacks and all that. Did you happen to read the doj report on that incident? If not perhaps you might give it a glance.
The doj found that the cops were robbing the black citizens of that town at gun point. Arresting and imprisoning black people for things that are not crimes.
Give it a read and let me know your thoughts.

You have a small bunch of rogue cops, I hope they were put in prison for it. But again, how does this make it race related? That more blacks are targeted than whites? If I was a rogue cop who wants to commit robbery, I am gonna choose to frame the race that happen to have the highest crime statistics, because I would get away with it easier. IF that race happen to be white, he'd have done it to white people.
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What if the cops only beat up short fat asian women with black hair and big hands who are into bdsm???would you consider that to be targeting?

The fact is that cops don't even ONLY beat up black people today. Show me evidence that ONLY black people specifically get beat up, and NO OTHER races ever got targeted by cops ever?

I love how big hands on a woman is also an insult now. You're incredible Thompson, that's a new one to me. You must hate women with big hands as you are insecure that it may make your cock look too small. Fat shaming and hands shaming. You're such a great guy Thompson.


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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:57:40 PM   
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I have to admit, my 80whatever dad got off easy just having a 26 yr. old punk with a badge screaming in his face when he could hardly stand.

Two years earlier, an 88 yr. old lady had five police bullets in her while sitting in her chair before she could even ask 'would you like some coffee?'

She was not a white person, if that explains anything.




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RE: No Words - 7/21/2016 11:59:24 PM   
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If a punk police guy terrorizes your parents and you call to register complaint about it, you will probably find a SWAT team outside your door in 15 minutes, if not sooner.

If a police person terrorise my grandma, I would call the police hotline, in our country is 999, to at first make a complaint. Usually what happens is, somebody will contact you and find out more details, and there will be an apology and they will inform you how the cop has been disciplined about it. Let's say if the hotline took down your complaint, never got back to you, step 2 would be, go see your MP. Once it hits the MP, I'm pretty sure you don't have to worry about it anymore. Any MP would be outrage and demand the police officer be accountable for it. But best to have it on video if you can film it, which is not a problem around here, because people generally always film things nowadays with their cell phones at hand and we do have like gazillion public cameras everywhere, where they can replay and look. But highly unlikely it would reach the MP, as they wouldn't want shit to hit the fan. The Police Force that is.

But I don't know if it's just your state specific. If you called the police and told them a cop just scream his head off at your 87 yr old father who was struggling, they would send a swat team? No way! Sounds like an exaggeration. Now that would be something to kick up a big fuss about, if they are busy terrorizing a harmless 87 yr old rather than actually going after the real bad guys.

I guess it's about there is no rules and regulations regulating Police conduct towards citizens over there, like being polite isn't part of their required job.





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RE: No Words - 7/22/2016 12:22:01 AM   
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Yes, I was exaggerating just a bit about the SWAT team coming out. But it's only just short of that. My dad got harassed ~ 20 years ago when my brother got pulled over on his way to our vacation cabin, held for 4 hours, nothing resembling even probable cause to begin with, and were very ugly to him. My dad called to register his complaint, and the original cop called back and threatened to arrest my brother and my dad all at once, even bragging with no cause.

The police department let him do this, obviously, so how is a complaint going to do any good?
There was realistic threat of arrest just for complaining about genuine harassment.



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RE: No Words - 7/22/2016 1:27:38 AM   
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I though you lefties wanted cops to shoot people in the leg?

Actually I would prefer they didn't shoot anybody anywhere, but what do I know, I am just an actual real leftie, not the make believe ones in your head.

If he regards Greta as a "leftie", then his political position must be a few universes to the right of Genghiz Khan.

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RE: No Words - 7/22/2016 1:30:48 AM   
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Yes, I was exaggerating just a bit about the SWAT team coming out. But it's only just short of that. My dad got harassed ~ 20 years ago when my brother got pulled over on his way to our vacation cabin, held for 4 hours, nothing resembling even probable cause to begin with, and were very ugly to him. My dad called to register his complaint, and the original cop called back and threatened to arrest my brother and my dad all at once, even bragging with no cause.

The police department let him do this, obviously, so how is a complaint going to do any good?
There was realistic threat of arrest just for complaining about genuine harassment.

This really sucks.
I don't know how you guys do things there. But usually, we will try to find someone higher. Like maybe your Mayor is the equivalent of our MP? If not, we will write to the Prime Minister or the Media. Our Media is actually very powerful and have helped alot of injustice situations get government attention and resolution. While there is only one government controlled media, but the media is really self-regulated based on government given guidelines, so, the government wants the media to bring to their attention anything that deserves their attention. So many times, the media is able to post any government fuck ups too or incompetence. The guideline is, just don't post anything that could incite religious or racial wars. It has to be based on facts. Reported devoid of emotion.

Also, these days, with all our Ministers on Facebook actively personally posting, connecting with citizens. Someone just need to post it on their Facebook page, immediately, many will see and it will spread. They gotta address it.

It's pretty hard to ignore injustice of anything these days at least in my part of the world. There is always a channel you could pursue. A complaint against a police officer with the police threatening you back is like a serious offense and corruption over here. I can't even imagine the possibility of that happening! And even during my childhood growing up, I'm actually hanging out at Police Stations chilling with the Police. They were also young officers often in their twenties. And they provide free engraving services so I always take my things to get engraved there. It's like completely illegal to like gather in a group in public after 10pm or something, and I often get round up by police who will send me home to my parents. Things like that, but they were always kind and lecture me, it's dangerous to hang out so late, AS IF it was dangerous in Singapore to do that.

It is seriously two different universe.

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