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DesideriScuri -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 1:38:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini
As has been mentioned one million times, a 3rd party won't win this year.
Hopefully one day, maybe ....
Where is the publicity?
Where is the convention {even if it had to be held in a field or church}?
I don't have the energy to say what everyone else has said.


Just the first two "other" parties that come to mind...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Libertarian_National_Convention

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Green_National_Convention

The media doesn't give them much attention because they are falling over themselves to brown nose the "Big 2."

They may not win this year, but they have to start somewhere, right? If we don't start voting third party because "a 3rd party won't win this year," how will that ever change? If a 3rd party candidate gets 5% of the vote in the general (Presidential) election, that party is eligible for a Federal grant from the FEC. That would help finance better campaigns the next cycle.




Nnanji -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 1:38:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Bill Clinton speech about his wife is terrible and passionless.
Like seriously, reading the transcript of the whole script. It doesn't sound like a spouse talking about a wife he deeply loves and admire but he was struggling very hard to come out with great qualities of her.

If I had a husband that wrote that type of speech about me, I'd be worried, it seem cold.

To be fair, I only read the speech. I didn't listen to how it was delivered.

But still..., Bill is a good orator I am sure, I am more interested in how he would describe his wife.

Clinton (the rapist not the rape denier) has had a political relationship with Clinton (the rape denier not the rapist) since the beginning. The whole marriage is per plan. She skidded in on his coattails and he talks about what a great feminist she is. He's been cheating on her...not really cheating since its part of the arrangement...from day one. He had to point out to her that to appear normal they had to have at least one kid. Since he's now fulfilled his duties in the partnership, he's less interested in public life. So his passion isn't all that it used to be. Like a typical male, he got his, she now has to work for hers.




Nnanji -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 1:41:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini
As has been mentioned one million times, a 3rd party won't win this year.
Hopefully one day, maybe ....
Where is the publicity?
Where is the convention {even if it had to be held in a field or church}?
I don't have the energy to say what everyone else has said.


Just the first two "other" parties that come to mind...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Libertarian_National_Convention

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Green_National_Convention

The media doesn't give them much attention because they are falling over themselves to brown nose the "Big 2."

They may not win this year, but they have to start somewhere, right? If we don't start voting third party because "a 3rd party won't win this year," how will that ever change? If a 3rd party candidate gets 5% of the vote in the general (Presidential) election, that party is eligible for a Federal grant from the FEC. That would help finance better campaigns the next cycle.

They need 15% to get in to the debates.




Greta75 -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 2:17:28 AM)

FR

I was away and just got back today and just catching up on the DNC convention events.

But I think, the thing that solidifies why I stopped being a fan of Hillary is this stupid glass ceiling thing that she used again! Woman's card!

Why is she so focus on that!

Stop campaigning for people to vote for her just to break the glass ceiling. That's not a good reason to be President. That's the absolutely worst reason ever, and IF that was the gist of why you wanna be President.

It's just disgraceful. Seriously if a politician in my own country campaigns to be a leader just to put forth the first female leader, as the main reason. Be like, fuck her! That's so bullshit! Fortunately, I have never heard any of our Female Ministers ever used the woman's card.

People hate hearing Trump saying make America great again, but at least the focus is on the country and not himself.

She openly says it's about herself, and people are like, yay Hillary!




DaddySatyr -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 5:02:17 AM)


The call has gone out, from the DNC, on Craigslist. They're looking for up to 700 "seat fillers" for the last night of the convention.

They're paying $50.00 per person.

I suck at math but I ran the numbers: the convention gavels in, no later than 17.00 hrs. It goes until at least 23.00. Six hours (being very conservative) at $50.00 Isn't even $10.00 hour. They're bitching about $15.00 per hour?

Show some integrity and lead by example. Oooops! I forgot. We're talking about dumbocrats, here.



Michael




angelikaJ -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 5:11:31 AM)

http://www.snopes.com/dnc-hiring-actors-via-craigslist-to-replace-delegates/




mnottertail -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 5:16:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Bill Clinton speech about his wife is terrible and passionless.
Like seriously, reading the transcript of the whole script. It doesn't sound like a spouse talking about a wife he deeply loves and admire but he was struggling very hard to come out with great qualities of her.

If I had a husband that wrote that type of speech about me, I'd be worried, it seem cold.

To be fair, I only read the speech. I didn't listen to how it was delivered.

But still..., Bill is a good orator I am sure, I am more interested in how he would describe his wife.

Clinton (the rapist not the rape denier) has had a political relationship with Clinton (the rape denier not the rapist) since the beginning. The whole marriage is per plan. She skidded in on his coattails and he talks about what a great feminist she is. He's been cheating on her...not really cheating since its part of the arrangement...from day one. He had to point out to her that to appear normal they had to have at least one kid. Since he's now fulfilled his duties in the partnership, he's less interested in public life. So his passion isn't all that it used to be. Like a typical male, he got his, she now has to work for hers.

Well, how does that fit in with the rapist Trump and all the other rapist nutsuckers?




Lucylastic -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 5:38:58 AM)

It doesnt,




Lucylastic -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 6:05:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

http://www.snopes.com/dnc-hiring-actors-via-craigslist-to-replace-delegates/

LOL Thanks for saving me the time, LMFAO
It seems to have"disappeared" from the Philly craigslist too.

So much for integrity and leading by example:)




DominantWrestler -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 7:26:53 AM)

Trump (the rapist and rape denier) payed actors to fill seats at a rally several months ago, and unlike the accusation against Hillary, there was significant evidence. Additionally, there were photos that proved his rally was mostly empty even when he claimed the venue was full. Hillary may be many things, but she is not dumb. Do you think that Hillary would repeat Trump's mistake of posting a craigslist add to show up for a rally for $50 a head after that was a HUGE controversy for Trump?

I am to this day an avid Bernie supporter with no love for Clinton or Trump, but I highly doubt that Clinton's campaign would repeat Trump's error




Lucylastic -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 7:41:35 AM)

at the RNC joni ernst spoke to a practically empty hall didnt she?
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/sophiecarson/2016/07/19/speakers-after-melania-trump-talk-to-nearly-empty-arena-n2194697
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jul/18/republican-national-convention-2016-day-one-donald-trump




vincentML -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 8:02:01 AM)

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People hate hearing Trump saying make America great again, but at least the focus is on the country and not himself.

Trump is nothing but all about Trump. He is like the magician who points to a series of distractions (the wall, Mexican rapists, the Muslim refugees, etc.) all the while he is jutting his chin out like Benito and strutting about (to borrow a phrase) signifying nothing but me, me, me.

He certainly has you fooled, Greta, but then you come from a land already under a dictatorship. Obama nailed it last night: the American people are not weak or afraid or in need of a strongman.




mnottertail -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 8:04:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


The call has gone out, from the DNC, on Craigslist. They're looking for up to 700 "seat fillers" for the last night of the convention.

They're paying $50.00 per person.

I suck at math but I ran the numbers: the convention gavels in, no later than 17.00 hrs. It goes until at least 23.00. Six hours (being very conservative) at $50.00 Isn't even $10.00 hour. They're bitching about $15.00 per hour?

Show some integrity and lead by example. Oooops! I forgot. We're talking about dumbocrats, here.



Michael


No, as always we are talking about the gullible untutored nutsuckers and their propaganda.




Lucylastic -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 9:39:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

People hate hearing Trump saying make America great again, but at least the focus is on the country and not himself.

Trump is nothing but all about Trump. He is like the magician who points to a series of distractions (the wall, Mexican rapists, the Muslim refugees, etc.) all the while he is jutting his chin out like Benito and strutting about (to borrow a phrase) signifying nothing but me, me, me.

He certainly has you fooled, Greta, but then you come from a land already under a dictatorship. Obama nailed it last night: the American people are not weak or afraid or in need of a strongman.

I enjoyed Obama And Biden speeches last night:)
The difference between the two conventions so far has been like night vs day.
Given that both had people that hate the respective nominee.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 10:53:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


The call has gone out, from the DNC, on Craigslist. They're looking for up to 700 "seat fillers" for the last night of the convention.

They're paying $50.00 per person.

I suck at math but I ran the numbers: the convention gavels in, no later than 17.00 hrs. It goes until at least 23.00. Six hours (being very conservative) at $50.00 Isn't even $10.00 hour. They're bitching about $15.00 per hour?

Show some integrity and lead by example. Oooops! I forgot. We're talking about dumbocrats, here.



Michael


No, you are the one bitching about all this. This flat-out lie that you didn't even bother to check to see if it was true or not. And you are calling them the 'dumb'ocrats? [8|]

Like so many people in this election, you want so badly to believe the worst that you will automatically grab hold of anything to prove your point, and put it out there knowing that some asshats will read it and automatically believe it and pass it around, not caring about its veracity as long as it got the 'right' message out. Just like someone did with this original ad. And oh look, it worked.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 11:23:04 AM)

Yes, it's all tea and cake at the Dems convention:
choice between the threat of Donald Trump in the White House, and the far better outcome of a President Hillary Clinton. “We need leadership, which brings our people together and makes us stronger—not leadership which insults Latinos, Muslims, women, African Americans, and veterans and divides us up,” Sanders warned. “By these measures, any objective observer will conclude that—based on her ideas and her leadership—Hillary Clinton must become the next president of the United States. The choice is not even close.” The line met with loud cheers and applause.

Conventions 2016
The Atlantic's coverage of the Republican and Democratic nominations for the U.S. presidential election
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But that show of unity was not enough to cover up the divisions among delegates in the room. Many booed when Sanders railed against Trump or the problems with American society. But there was also disdain for the presumptive nominee. The crowd occasionally broke out in jeers when Sanders said the words “Hillary Clinton.” At the end of his speech, loud boos could be heard when Sanders called for “a Democratic Senate, a Democratic House, and a Hillary Clinton presidency."

The Democratic convention is off to a rocky start. The event is meant to show that rifts in the party are mending after a hard-fought primary battle. But during Monday’s programming, the convention came across more like a televised spectacle designed to prove the opposite. Democratic officials seem desperate to move past scandal in the wake of a damaging email leak that has left Sanders supporters even more frustrated and bitter. And while Sanders himself appears to have made his peace with Clinton’s nomination, his most ardent supporters aren’t ready to accept defeat.

The convention opened to jeers at very the mention of Clinton’s name. Ohio congresswoman Marcia Fudge was loudly yelled down when she declared that “Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine want to build an economy that works for everyone, not just the people at the top.” Later in the evening, the actress and comedian Sarah Silverman had a message from the stage for the hold-outs. “Can I just say to the Bernie-or-Bust people: You’re being ridiculous.”

Earlier that afternoon, Sanders confronted an angry crowd when he told a room full of his delegates, “We have got to elect Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine.” Boos and calls of “We want Bernie!” rang out. Later in the day, Sanders sent out a message to supporters asking them to “not engage in any kind of protest or demonstration on the convention floor.”

There could certainly be more protest to come at the convention, but even if there isn’t, the deep divisions within the party will still be there. “I guess it makes us look bad if we boo and make a fuss, but we have such a build up of emotion at this point,” said Shauna Valdez, who identified herself as a Bernie delegate from the Minnesota delegation. “They want the media to show unity, and we don’t have that yet. I hope we will, but if they want unity Clinton is going to have to convince us.”

Supporters of the Vermont senator have a long list of grievances. Many believe the recent DNC email leak—which seemed to suggest that Democratic officials were colluding against Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary—is evidence of a rigged system. Some are frustrated that Clinton picked Kaine as her vice-presidential pick, hoping she would choose someone like Senator Elizabeth Warren instead. Many see Clinton as an establishment politician bent on maintaining the status quo.

“We’ve been working against corruption. We’ve been working to get big money out of politics. She represents all of those things to some Bernie voters. That’s not the message we’ve had all the way up to this point, and it’s hard for some people to accept that,” said Barry Welsh, who identified himself as a Bernie delegate from Indiana, reflecting on Clinton. “The harder you try to shove something down someone’s throat, the easier it is for them to vomit it back up,” he said, adding: “A lot of Bernie people feel like that’s what’s happening.”

During his speech, Sanders acknowledged his differences with Clinton, although he attempted to suggest that any divide is merely a reflection of healthy debate. “It is no secret that Hillary Clinton and I disagree on a number of issues,” he said. “That’s what this campaign has been about. That’s what democracy is about."

He promised the political revolution will continue and assured his supporters he feels their pain. “I understand that many people here in this convention hall and around the country are disappointed about the final results of the nominating process,” he said. “I think it’s fair to say that no one is more disappointed than I am. But to all of our supporters—here and around the country—I hope you take enormous pride in the historical accomplishments we have achieved.”

It had to be painful for Sanders to stand inside the convention arena and deliver the speech, knowing he would not be the nominee. But the intensity of devotion among his supporters was evident. When he walked on stage, the crowd gave him deafening applause. Sanders and his supporters may not have gotten what they wanted, but they came a very long way.

That won't make his defeat sting any less. As Sanders left the stage, the crowd chanted again: “We want Bernie! We want Bernie!”—Clare Foran
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/live-coverage-of-the-democratic-national-convention/492851/




mnottertail -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 11:39:11 AM)

Of course there are divisions, much like there are divisions in the nutsucker party. I remember a run at dump trump and like that, and many republicans going to the dems to vote.

I cant fathom that millions of people are in exact lockstep. Thanks for the heads up, but nothing to shit your pants over.





Lucylastic -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 11:53:10 AM)

Strange...no one claimed it was tea and cakes, LOL




Awareness -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 1:31:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

FR

I was away and just got back today and just catching up on the DNC convention events.

But I think, the thing that solidifies why I stopped being a fan of Hillary is this stupid glass ceiling thing that she used again! Woman's card!

Why is she so focus on that!

Stop campaigning for people to vote for her just to break the glass ceiling. That's not a good reason to be President. That's the absolutely worst reason ever, and IF that was the gist of why you wanna be President.

It's just disgraceful. Seriously if a politician in my own country campaigns to be a leader just to put forth the first female leader, as the main reason. Be like, fuck her! That's so bullshit! Fortunately, I have never heard any of our Female Ministers ever used the woman's card.

People hate hearing Trump saying make America great again, but at least the focus is on the country and not himself.

She openly says it's about herself, and people are like, yay Hillary!
Feminists are full of shit. They ramble on about the glass ceiling (an effect which, if true, affects a vanishingly small percentage of the population) in which men are over-represented in the top echelons of society, but they never talk about the "glass floor" which sees men vastly over-represented in the
bottom echelons of society. More men work shittier jobs that women will never do and more men are homeless - precisely because women benefit from their gender.

Any woman who babbles on about the glass ceiling is a liar who simply wants to use gender as an opportunity to get stuff for free.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Democratic National Convention (7/28/2016 2:10:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Strange...no one claimed it was tea and cakes, LOL

No...just the mainstream media.




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