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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 8/29/2016 10:42:38 AM   
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I think a good start would be moving all the Pro Dom'mes, sub's, yes there are a few, on to a seperate page where anyone looking for Pro services could find them and they wouldn't clutter up the people using the site for what It's meant. It would have no effect on the boards etc, but would at least make life easier for everyone.

Wow! You really sat down with "E" and had a little pow-wow about "for what the site was meant"? Brilliant! Please, tell us more.

Unequivocally, if I owned this site, it would be about making money.



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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 8/29/2016 12:01:17 PM   
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I personally don't understand the aversion to some form of verification.
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Since I'm not here to find a partner, I see no point in putting my personal information out into the strata for verification. I personally don't care if someone thinks I'm fake or real or in between.


I think the point is not to verify that people are really who they say they are, but to verify that they are not spambots... something I think everyone can agree wrecks a site.

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It would not be devastating to me for it to be known that I was a member on a kink social network
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I know people that lost their jobs for having a profile on a kink site. Hell, one lost his job for having a profile on AOL that mentioned kink in a vanilla manner. In some cases it took years to be able to get another job because of the fields they worked in.


I guess I am just happy to live in Canada then, where firing someone for such a reason is illegal. Our Prime Minister marched in the Toronto gay pride parade this year! Our Premiere of Ontario is openly gay.


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I don't go digging around, trying to find out what my friends and colleagues are in to sexually
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Honestly, I'm more worried about some of the people on this website outting me.


My point was more that I think people worry excessively, or unnecessarily about being outed at all. But again, that may be because of the country I live in.

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and I suspect most people wouldn't care.
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You'd be surprised how much people would care...especially if those who are outted have kids (I'm sure the PTA would love it), work with kids, have high profile jobs in their community or work with charity or religious groups.


I think the assumption that anyone who is interested in anything sexually unusual must be a pedophile is pretty much considered, these days, and ignorant assumption.

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I wonder how much this obsession with anonymity is hampering our ability to create the community we really want?
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I don't think so, because while it might stop the FinDommes, it's not going to stop the users, abusers, cheaters, wannabes or the clueless.



True... but it might stop the spambots, and that counts for a lot.


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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 8/29/2016 12:17:33 PM   
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I guess I am just happy to live in Canada then, where firing someone for such a reason is illegal. Our Prime Minister marched in the Toronto gay pride parade this year! Our Premiere of Ontario is openly gay.
Many employers have "morality clauses" that employees are required to follow. Many also have rules about interacting on social media sites. In addition, a lot of states are "employment at will" which means that they don't really need a reason, if they really wnat to fire you.



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My point was more that I think people worry excessively, or unnecessarily about being outed at all. But again, that may be because of the country I live in.
This is like when I got a steroid shot for Tendonitis and ended up as a rage monster. I told the Doctor and his response was "Well, that almost never happens". It doesn't matter that it rarely happens, what matters is that it does happen. Which makes it something to worry about. I've watched people lose their relationships, their children and their homes because some vengeful person sent the information to an employer.


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I think the assumption that anyone who is interested in anything sexually unusual must be a pedophile is pretty much considered, these days, and ignorant assumption.


That's the thing - it's not considered an "ignorant assumption". It's a common view point in the US. It can vary from place to place, but it still exists. I live in Southern California - LGBT is perfectly fine, but kink is something that is only accepted among certain demographics. Someone in the middle of the Bible belt is going to burned at the stake in the town square.


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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 8/29/2016 12:26:20 PM   
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I guess I am just happy to live in Canada then, where firing someone for such a reason is illegal. Our Prime Minister marched in the Toronto gay pride parade this year! Our Premiere of Ontario is openly gay.

I march at Pride, too. Even have a special pair of boots for it.

However, I've worked HR, too.

Most people who hire and fire will NEVER tell you that you are being let go because you are gay, poly, or queer. Proving that stuff? Pretty hard.

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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 8/29/2016 12:45:05 PM   
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Most people who hire and fire will NEVER tell you that you are being let go because you are gay, poly, or queer. Proving that stuff? Pretty hard.

I'm in the travel industry, so they don't fire for that. But, the company I used to work for fired someone getting a DUI outside of business hours (violated their morality code by getting arrested) and another person fired for complaining on Facebook about a client, which she did not name.


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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 8/30/2016 12:43:28 AM   
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I'm in the travel industry, so they don't fire for that. But, the company I used to work for fired someone getting a DUI outside of business hours (violated their morality code by getting arrested) and another person fired for complaining on Facebook about a client, which she did not name.

I've said this on other threads before. Anybody who is even half way decent at HR can "find" a reason to fire 99% of the employees out there. It's part of why *proving* discrimination is so tough.

Disgusting field, really.



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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/7/2016 4:43:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		HR- departments. Even the word disgusts me. Human Resources. Why do you work there? I have to ask, I have been wondering about this for a long time.


Its like> Phone Salesmen selling your grandparents subscriptions and a close second HR departments.

Now that shit is being outsourced even. So you literally have people who have no direct interest in the company, no direct involvement in any projects going on what so ever recruiting people, generally never taking a risk because they wouldn't want to fuck their clients up.
What ever happened to the project manager or department chief hirering the type of people he or she thinks would fit that particular group right there.

But I could be complaining about a lot of these types of positions like Sensitivity trainer or consultants for resolving internal conflicts (i.e. finding who to sack when not even HR can decide) or externalized or outsourced marketing departments that do not understand the products they are pushing and what not. I do not understand western corporate culture at all.

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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/8/2016 3:44:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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I guess I am just happy to live in Canada then, where firing someone for such a reason is illegal. Our Prime Minister marched in the Toronto gay pride parade this year! Our Premiere of Ontario is openly gay.

I march at Pride, too. Even have a special pair of boots for it.

However, I've worked HR, too.

Most people who hire and fire will NEVER tell you that you are being let go because you are gay, poly, or queer. Proving that stuff? Pretty hard.


Up here, the onus is on the employer to show cause.

As one of our greatest Prime Ministers, Pierre Trudeau, famously said... "The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation". A sentiment we have taken to heart ever since.

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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/8/2016 9:01:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

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I guess I am just happy to live in Canada then, where firing someone for such a reason is illegal. Our Prime Minister marched in the Toronto gay pride parade this year! Our Premiere of Ontario is openly gay.

I march at Pride, too. Even have a special pair of boots for it.

However, I've worked HR, too.

Most people who hire and fire will NEVER tell you that you are being let go because you are gay, poly, or queer. Proving that stuff? Pretty hard.


Up here, the onus is on the employer to show cause.

As one of our greatest Prime Ministers, Pierre Trudeau, famously said... "The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation". A sentiment we have taken to heart ever since.

Nobody said I couldn't show "cause".

Most people really aren't the great employees they think they are.


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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/8/2016 9:17:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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I guess I am just happy to live in Canada then, where firing someone for such a reason is illegal. Our Prime Minister marched in the Toronto gay pride parade this year! Our Premiere of Ontario is openly gay.

I march at Pride, too. Even have a special pair of boots for it.

However, I've worked HR, too.

Most people who hire and fire will NEVER tell you that you are being let go because you are gay, poly, or queer. Proving that stuff? Pretty hard.


Up here, the onus is on the employer to show cause.

As one of our greatest Prime Ministers, Pierre Trudeau, famously said... "The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation". A sentiment we have taken to heart ever since.

Nobody said I couldn't show "cause".

Most people really aren't the great employees they think they are.



California is an "Employment at Will" state, which means that really an employer doesn't need to have any reason to terminate an employee. The only thing is that they have to follow what they have in put in their employee handbook. If they don't follow their own rules, they can be sued for wrongful termination.

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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/8/2016 9:54:10 AM   
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California is an "Employment at Will" state, which means that really an employer doesn't need to have any reason to terminate an employee. The only thing is that they have to follow what they have in put in their employee handbook. If they don't follow their own rules, they can be sued for wrongful termination.

Does that ever happen? I thought it was quite easy to contrive a bullshit excuse to give somebody their cards that would stand up in court.

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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/8/2016 11:11:15 AM   
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California is an "Employment at Will" state, which means that really an employer doesn't need to have any reason to terminate an employee. The only thing is that they have to follow what they have in put in their employee handbook. If they don't follow their own rules, they can be sued for wrongful termination.

Does that ever happen? I thought it was quite easy to contrive a bullshit excuse to give somebody their cards that would stand up in court.

If for instance, the Employee handbook says - verbal warning, written warning, probation, termination is the process and just terminates someone without following the process, they can be sued.

That's why a lot of employers put a morality clause or "actions detrimental to the company" clause and initial 90 day probation periods into the handbook to allow for immediate termination rather than having to follow the drawn out process.

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RE: Thoughts on a new site/app? - 9/8/2016 11:14:09 AM   
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