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That's some strained logic you used to make voting limits racist there, Whore Mods.

In the first place, the law written to keep blacks from voting was written in 1902.

The Virginia Constitution was rewritten 1971 to give the Governor expensive rights, including...presumably...the right to allow blacks to vote. Unless you can come up with some law that SPECIFICALLY says blacks...even without ID...cannot vote? I didn't think so...

This case that you're referring to was trying to restore voting rights to CONVICTS. It wasn't about disenfranchising blacks or poor people or anyone else...it was about restoring voting rights to CONVICTS. Yes, the Republicans disagreed with it. As do I. You want child molesters, rapists, etc having the same rights as you? I don't.

Whore Mods ?

Thus the governor has the power to restore voting rights to all EX-cons who have served their time and are off probation. The 'racist' repubs sued and the 'racist' court agreed...only one at a time. [sic]

Sorry about calling you Whore Mods.

Being an EX-convict does not change the crime that sent you to prison and removed your rights in the first place. Do we need to go into figures for how many of those EX-convicts will have that EX erased from their description sooner rather than later?

Now then...since it was a change to allow ex-CONVICTS to vote and all of those ex-CONVICTS are of different colors, including white...how exactly are the Republicans and the courts being 'racist'?

The crime is irrelevant except that they are all felonies, the level that negates voting rights. Once they paid their debt with probation, what's the big deal ? They never have the EX removed from the life history. If this were guns rights, far more on the right would be all for it.

The racism was implicit in the creation of this limitation in law, and remains today with 200,000 plus in Va. with 120,000 blacks being denied voting rights for any felony charge. 1 in 4 otherwise eligible black voters in Va.

What a crock of unbelievably TWISTED bullshit overreach on your part.

Racism implicit 114 years ago in a ruling in which the ones involved STATED that they intended to eliminate blacks as a voting faction?
Yes, there was.

Claiming that one ruling equals the other ruling because black EX-CONVICTS are denied the right to vote? So are all the OTHER ed-CONVICTS, no matter their color.
They're not being denied because they're black...because, as you noted, they only make up 25% of the black population in VA (by the way, your figures are wrong. If there are indeed 120,000 black ex-convicts and that equals 25%...1 in 4...of the black population, then there are close to 480,00 blacks in VA., not 200,000). But because they're ex-CONVICTS.
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Man I need to try your drugs.

Approx. 200,000 EX-felons total could have their voting rights restored.

out of which approx. 120,000 are black which is 1 in 4 eligible black voters meaning.....

out of a total 480,000 eligible black voters in Va. not the entire black population of Va..

Forget the fucking numbers. That the white govt. knew exactly what they were doing when they passed the 1902 law even to the point of brazenly saying so, we both agree was patently racist.

Now fast forward to a post 1971 govt. being empowered to grant clemency to ALL EX-felons who have paid their debt to society, I say that clearly the white racists repubs knowing full well that 120,000 black EX-felons could and are very likely to vote democratic in a virtual block, get a clearly racist court not to rule that it.'s constitutional as [it] reads but must be done on a case by case basis in what's clearly a politically wretched attempt to minimize the number of potential dem (read) black voters.

It's rather obvious to me and many other observers and not overreach at all. This shit is going on now all over the country in various forms and has been the white repub political tactic since Nixon's great ' southern strategy' highlighted by his demonizing the black welfare recipients and black welfare 'queens' (mothers) in particular.

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That's some strained logic you used to make voting limits racist there, Whore Mods.

In the first place, the law written to keep blacks from voting was written in 1902.

The Virginia Constitution was rewritten 1971 to give the Governor expensive rights, including...presumably...the right to allow blacks to vote. Unless you can come up with some law that SPECIFICALLY says blacks...even without ID...cannot vote? I didn't think so...

This case that you're referring to was trying to restore voting rights to CONVICTS. It wasn't about disenfranchising blacks or poor people or anyone else...it was about restoring voting rights to CONVICTS. Yes, the Republicans disagreed with it. As do I. You want child molesters, rapists, etc having the same rights as you? I don't.

Whore Mods ?

Thus the governor has the power to restore voting rights to all EX-cons who have served their time and are off probation. The 'racist' repubs sued and the 'racist' court agreed...only one at a time. [sic]

Sorry about calling you Whore Mods.

Being an EX-convict does not change the crime that sent you to prison and removed your rights in the first place. Do we need to go into figures for how many of those EX-convicts will have that EX erased from their description sooner rather than later?

Now then...since it was a change to allow ex-CONVICTS to vote and all of those ex-CONVICTS are of different colors, including white...how exactly are the Republicans and the courts being 'racist'?

The crime is irrelevant except that they are all felonies, the level that negates voting rights. Once they paid their debt with probation, what's the big deal ? They never have the EX removed from the life history. If this were guns rights, far more on the right would be all for it.

The racism was implicit in the creation of this limitation in law, and remains today with 200,000 plus in Va. with 120,000 blacks being denied voting rights for any felony charge. 1 in 4 otherwise eligible black voters in Va.

What a crock of unbelievably TWISTED bullshit overreach on your part.

Racism implicit 114 years ago in a ruling in which the ones involved STATED that they intended to eliminate blacks as a voting faction?
Yes, there was.

Claiming that one ruling equals the other ruling because black EX-CONVICTS are denied the right to vote? So are all the OTHER ed-CONVICTS, no matter their color.
They're not being denied because they're black...because, as you noted, they only make up 25% of the black population in VA (by the way, your figures are wrong. If there are indeed 120,000 black ex-convicts and that equals 25%...1 in 4...of the black population, then there are close to 480,00 blacks in VA., not 200,000). But because they're ex-CONVICTS.
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Man I need to try your drugs.

Approx. 200,000 EX-felons total could have their voting rights restored.

out of which approx. 120,000 are black which is 1 in 4 eligible black voters meaning.....

out of a total 480,000 eligible black voters in Va. not the entire black population of Va..

Forget the fucking numbers. That the white govt. knew exactly what they were doing when they passed the 1902 law even to the point of brazenly saying so, we both agree was patently racist.

Now fast forward to a post 1971 govt. being empowered to grant clemency to ALL EX-felons who have paid their debt to society, I say that clearly the white racists repubs knowing full well that 120,000 black EX-felons could and are very likely to vote democratic in a virtual block, get a clearly racist court not to rule that it.'s constitutional as [it] reads but must be done on a case by case basis in what's clearly a politically wretched attempt to minimize the number of potential dem (read) black voters.

It's rather obvious to me and many other observers and not overreach at all. This shit is going on now all over the country in various forms and has been the white repub political tactic since Nixon's great ' southern strategy' highlighted by his demonizing the black welfare recipients and black welfare 'queens' (mothers) in particular.

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But the three judges in Noth Carolina did find it racist for NC
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/north-carolina-voting-rights-law/493649/

DURHAM, N.C.—The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down key portions of North Carolina’s strict 2013 voting law on Friday, delivering a stern rebuke to the state’s Republican General Assembly and Governor Pat McCrory. The three-judge panel in Richmond, Virginia, unanimously concluded that the law was racially discriminatory, and it blocked a requirement that voters show photo identification to vote and restored same-day voter registration, a week of early voting, pre-registration for teenagers, and out-of-precinct voting.


I have no problem with voting ID< Ive always had to have it, Its a natural state of being. But making it harder to vote, not easier, IS the problem.
My provincial ID was free. Im an immigrant. I dont have a driving license as I dont and never have driven. I have a passport, I have citizenship papers, and my health card is pic ID, My permanent resident card had a photo on it.