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WhoreMods -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 4:42:26 AM)
From some of what's been said about his past MO on the scene, and his whole "I am too very famous, nearly as famous as the slave I streamlined", he probably thinks claiming to be a Dominant will make it more likely that he'll get his arse kissed. Some people are too vain and conceited to be capable of submitting, after all. [:D]

MariaB -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 9:07:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 I don't agree with stef either. There's quite a big difference between body mods and FGM. I'm not against body mods but FGM is something quite different. If both parties are consenting, no, there isn't. It's just an extreme body mod that you aren't comfortable with. Totally There is a guy on the London scene who has done various types of female genitalia modifications…He’s known as a hardcore sadist and he practices with hard core masochists. I’ve seen a video of him doing a circumcision on a female and the final clip shows her being delighted with the results. As long as its consensual then genital modification is just another form of body mods. If we can’t handle that then we need to stay away from such people but to condemn them is to also condemn the person who wanted it done. Oh and this is by the by but thousands of women a year choose to go to a professional to have their inner labia snipped.

WhoreMods -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 12:00:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB Oh and this is by the by but thousands of women a year choose to go to a professional to have their inner labia snipped. Would it be nitpicking to point out that there is (or at least should be) a difference between a cosmetic surgeon and a cutter?

MariaB -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 1:05:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB Oh and this is by the by but thousands of women a year choose to go to a professional to have their inner labia snipped. Would it be nitpicking to point out that there is (or at least should be) a difference between a cosmetic surgeon and a cutter? Yes of course but then it depends on the individual. Does she want her bits snipped and modified because she’s self conscious about the size of her labia lips or does she want this done under the realms of BDSM because the thought of that really turns her on. Whilst the second may not be as safe as the first, keep in mind that a lot of body mod operators work under strict guidelines and are used to cutting and suturing skin parts. It really is up to the recipient to check out the person’s credentials and former work.

WhoreMods -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 1:15:37 PM)
I always thought part of the point of a cutter was that they weren't regulated, at least for the more elaborate stuff, and whatever guidelines and checks they work under are just the usual ones relating to tattooists and piercers? Checking out somebody's former work is always a good idea, though.

LilJuly76 -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 1:27:43 PM)
claiming to be Dominant and actually being Dominant are two different things. as most of us know.

WhoreMods -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 1:37:40 PM)
That's something that concerns me a bit from some of the OP's alleged behaviour on the scene and his hissy fit in here, frankly. Somebody getting their naughty bits modified or removed because the idea excites them is one thing, but somebody being browbeaten by some tonk who insist that they can't possibly be a "proper" slave until they do as s/he says and get it done is quite another. The latter case is hardly an informed choice. A few of the less healthy BDSM relationships are pretty close to being a folie a deux, and you shouldn't even be getting something as permanent as a tattoo under those circumstances, never mind irreversible surgery. Regretting something permanent you've had done under those circumstances is likely to be a when, rather than an if, sadly.

Spiritedsub2 -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 1:53:00 PM)
But the world offers endless opportunities for impaired and damaged people to make harmful decisions with lasting personal consequences. This hairball guy is just another such opportunity, though given how many years stale his slave story is, it seems he hasn't had many takers and for a very long time.

LilJuly76 -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/9/2016 3:03:49 PM)
my sentiments exactly

DeliciousAche -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/10/2016 2:51:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LilJuly76 oh my I just read the article, why isn't this dude in prison for years? We have had two Attorneys General who openly refuse to do their job. I wouldn't expect anything from them unless they got a kickback from it.

LilJuly76 -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/10/2016 2:56:26 PM)
are you involved with him?

LadyPact -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/10/2016 8:56:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar I totally agree with you that a sensible, ethical person would have reported anybody seeking to do such a thing to minors... But playing devil's advsocate for a second... While I greatly enjoy talking with you on a number of subjects, I think you and I are on different opinions on this. So, let's play. quote: He's not in a profession where he has a mandatory duty to report, and in CA one is not required legally to report crimes (or potential crimes). That's not it. It wasn't "failure to report". It was "conspiracy to commit". Legally, there's a difference. It means the OP didn't get some kind of one-off offer. It means he continued to engage. He didn't say, "no, I refuse because the potential recipients are eight and ten years old". That's not consensual kink! If it is, we ought to throw out the welcome mat for NAMBLA. quote: As such, when it comes to the sting set up for him, he wasn't actually obligated to report anything. From the OP's own link, he was also engaging in kiddie porn. What's his excuse for that? quote: Should he have done so as a decent human being? Fuck yes. Was he legally required to do so? Nope. Eight and ten. This whole thread is about a person contemplating his kind with persons who were eight and ten. And, for what it's worth, that '20 million dollar BS? Decent people don't have to think about that. quote: Which leaves the fact that he was forced into a plea bargain over a crime he did not commit, because the DA knew that in a trial the 'technicality' of him not actually having committed a crime wouldn't matter, because of the shock value of what he did do with Robyn, and because he just has a nasty (as is clear on this thread) personality. Nobody's forced to do sh^t. The guy was dirty. I'm inclined to think there were several skeletons in the closet. quote: I'm personally rather offended that the government would force jail time and sex offender registration when they couldn't actually prove criminal behavior, just because they find something a citizen does distasteful. He didn't bite on the sting. Not even when offered 20 million dollars. Which is all that should matter from a legal point of view, considering that legally he didn't have an obligation to report. We might find it morally reprehensible that he didn't report it, but once we start throwing people in jail just because some people find their -legal- behavior morally reprehensible, we can throw the entire country in jail, because everybody does something which somebody else, somewhere considers morally reprehensible... which is exactly why we have laws to define what is and isn't okay. Yes, he did. The fact that he even had to THINK about it??? Eight and ten years old, Ish. Would you really have to think about that? Between consenting adults, I don't give a sh^t. Wanna do body mods? Have a blast! Pin your ears, split your tongue, do any of that stuff... I don't care. If you are grown, do what you want to do. A proposition about a child? Yeah, we're going to have a bad day.

vincentML -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/10/2016 9:44:47 PM)
quote: As long as its consensual then genital modification is just another form of body mods. If we can’t handle that then we need to stay away from such people but to condemn them is to also condemn the person who wanted it done. There is consensual and then there is err .. .consensual. In fairly rare extreme extensions of "body modification" people fantasize about consensual cannibalism. Is there no limit to consent between adults. Apologies, i know i am stretching the illustration but it makes the point i wish to make. Where is the line? Is there a line?

Gauge -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/10/2016 10:26:00 PM)
Why is this thread not dead? Seriously. I'm an idiot... I get that... but troll.

Greta75 -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/11/2016 1:20:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Where is the line? Is there a line? Personally for me, there should be no line as long as both party are of sane consenting adults, both mentally of sound mind. But this Todd dude, got in trouble because he hesitated when he was offered alot of money to circumcised minors. This means his considering it. That's what the problem was. I have no problem with whatever him and his missus did. He has a missus who wanna eat her own private parts. Okay..., seriously, what is the difference of that, to women who wants to eat poop? Both are just as gross. But I can't be bothered if they enjoy it and it's their ultimate dream. They have gruesome dreams, but kudos for them for living it. If it makes them happy, it makes them happy.

LadyPact -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/11/2016 4:42:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge Why is this thread not dead? Seriously. I'm an idiot... I get that... but troll. To be honest, Gauge, I haven't figured that out. As soon as this discussion went the way of a guy who got busted for whatever it was that involved minors, this thing should have been toast. My only decent question about this would be for Oside. I get that, depending on where you go, things are run differently. What is your location's policy regarding people on the sex offenders registry? It doesn't sound like this was a case that nobody knew about. Have the organizers in your area banned him from events?

OsideGirl -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/11/2016 8:42:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I get that, depending on where you go, things are run differently. What is your location's policy regarding people on the sex offenders registry? It doesn't sound like this was a case that nobody knew about. Have the organizers in your area banned him from events? I haven't been active in the LA community since he was released. But, quite frankly, he had become persona non grata at a the clubs before the arrest for getting wasted and then trying to play. At one event, the whip was taken out of his hand because he was out of control. After the arrest, a lot of the private parties backed away from him. But, I'm not aware of how he has been received after his release and I do wonder about how Robyn would feel about him throwing her name around to try to attract a new "slave".

LadyPact -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/11/2016 9:19:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl I haven't been active in the LA community since he was released. But, quite frankly, he had become persona non grata at a the clubs before the arrest for getting wasted and then trying to play. At one event, the whip was taken out of his hand because he was out of control. After the arrest, a lot of the private parties backed away from him. But, I'm not aware of how he has been received after his release and I do wonder about how R**** would feel about him throwing her name around to try to attract a new "slave". I appreciate you taking the time to answer. Thank you. I'm a bit funky about the other person's name being thrown around the boards, as well. (Why that isn't a ToS violation, I have no idea.) If that's her legal name, I'd want to know that the OP has specific consent to use it in his posts. Again, thanks.

OsideGirl -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/11/2016 9:23:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl I haven't been active in the LA community since he was released. But, quite frankly, he had become persona non grata at a the clubs before the arrest for getting wasted and then trying to play. At one event, the whip was taken out of his hand because he was out of control. After the arrest, a lot of the private parties backed away from him. But, I'm not aware of how he has been received after his release and I do wonder about how R**** would feel about him throwing her name around to try to attract a new "slave". I appreciate you taking the time to answer. Thank you. I'm a bit funky about the other person's name being thrown around the boards, as well. (Why that isn't a ToS violation, I have no idea.) If that's her legal name, I'd want to know that the OP has specific consent to use it in his posts. Again, thanks. He has it in his profile too.

WhoreMods -> RE: female circumcision and slavery (8/11/2016 10:06:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I'm a bit funky about the other person's name being thrown around the boards, as well. Sadly, it's a bit late to close the door on that one now.

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