Wayward5oul
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Trump is not gonna drop out. Gosh all these left media propaganda.
Trump is devolving. He is becoming more and more irrational and he is taking people down with him. More and more Republicans are either publicly leaving the party, or publicly announcing that they will not vote for him. Others are realizing what damage he is doing to the party. In Kansas 11 conservative Republicans lost their legislative seats this week. One of the people who helped develop the last Republican party platform and who is seen as a key party player has announced she is leaving the party until Trump is gone. Trump refuses to endorse Paul Ryan, but Ryan has made a statement making it clear he has not asked for Trump's endorsement. Meanwhile, Ryan's opponent has been asked three different times if he wants Trump's endorsement, and the guy has refused to answer. Because he knows it has become a bad omen.
And there is more speculation regarding his mental health and his desire to actually win than I have ever seen in a candidate.
Of course, now he is saying that the election will be rigged, setting the stage for a ready-made excuse when he loses.
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And I'm disappointed with any Right politicians who did not defend his context about the his comment of the Muslim dude's wife.
Everybody says he attacked a fallen hero. He did no such thing. I bet nobody could find a single word that Trump said negatively about this fallen soldier's sacrifice for the country.
There is something that you need to understand about the US, Greta. (Actually there are A LOT of things that you need to understand about the US and the world in general.) Our military is not like yours. It is not mandatory. I have seen you make very unfeeling statements on here regarding people who serve in your military. That is not the norm here in the States. One of the few things that is still part of the typical American culture is that we have a deep respect for the people that volunteer to serve. We understand the personal sacrifice that they and their families make. We may not agree with where soldiers are being sent or what they are ordered to do, but we recognize that that is a matter of disagreement with our government's policies, and has nothing to do with the military men and women themselves. And the respect for those who serve is extended to their families.
I don't know if this is a uniquely American trait, the level of respect that is afforded to the military. And honestly, it is not as common as it used to be. It sickens me to see it, but for far too many people, the respect is more talk than walk. A lot of people (and the government) pay lip service to the idea more than they actively show it. But the point is, that even that lip service is important...you simply do not appear to disrespect military members, and to a degree, that is extended to their families.
And the Republican party has ALWAYS striven to be recognized as the standard bearer for this ideal. The Republican party has always worked very hard to be known as the most patriotic, the most supportive of the military, the ones who fight to protect American ideals at home while the service men and women protected America abroad.
It has always been one of the top priorities of the GOP, and Trump has given the appearance of just stomping all over that.
This is one of those things that cannot be ignored. The GOP has had to work past a lot of things that Trump has said and done, because of the support that he has had in corners that the Repubs didn't want to admit existed. But those same corners are as nationalistic (or more) so than any other segment of the US population.
Earlier in the campaign, Trump made the comment that he could shoot someone in the street, and he wouldn't lose any voters. And honestly, I was beginning to think that he was right about that. But there are some things that are going too far. He can shoot someone and crow about it, but do not appear to not give due respect to military members, nor those that they leave behind.
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And Trump has never been a quitter in his life, a man who could bounce back from being billions in debt is not a quitter.
He has always been able to bounce back because he had people that helped him dig himself out of the hole that he dug. But that was business. This is politics. Its different.
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Paul Ryan has been speaking out against Trump constantly, I see no reason why he should back Paul Ryan.
I have to give Ryan props on this one. It took him awhile, but he eventually came out in support of Trump. When he did so, he explained that because of his political position in the GOP, it was his responsibility to listen to the people and carry out their wishes. And while he personally was not comfortable with a lot of what Trump had said, it was his responsibility to support what the people wanted, and it was apparent that the people wanted Trump. With that in mind, he would support Trump, and once Trump was elected, he would use his position to keep the Party strong and ensure cooperation with Trump.
I am not a Ryan fan. But I feel like that stance took a lot of soul-searching on his part, and a recognition of the responsibility he has in his position. I don't agree with it completely, but I respect him more for it.
And that is something that Trump is showing that he is incapable of. As the leader of the Party, he should be cognizant of this, and he should be above it. Instead, his overblown ego is tearing the Party apart.
< Message edited by Wayward5oul -- 8/3/2016 7:26:49 PM >
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