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Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/6/2016 5:29:34 PM

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Are you kidding me?

The Martian:

Okay, we have Matt Damon stuck on Mars alone.
At one point, he grinds up a vicadine to dip his potato in.

Do you seriously think that any man with that personality would not use some of those potatoes to make booze?

Jupiter Ascending:

At the end of the movie, Jupiter is back to cleaning toilets.

She has access to technology that would turn the entire planet around and solve most if not all the problems facing humanity, and she has access to intersteller transportation....

She is cleaning toilets and damn near cries over the gift of a telescope.

Come on woman, you own the fucking planet, do something to make it a better place!!!!

What the hell are you thinking?

Zombie movies (any of them)

The damn things can barely manage to walk, so why the hell fort up in the same freaking city that is over run with the damn things? What when the Zombie apocalypse hit, the entire human race forgot about the interstate highway system?

Any slasher flick.

Okay, killer is in the house, so now the doors dont work? He has taken all the blunt objects that could be used as a weapon?

And why the hell do these people try hiding in rooms there is no way out of but the one they used to get into the room in the first place?

Clearly, slasher movies are the epitome of natural selection.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/7/2016 5:06:27 AM

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There's running zombie movies, to be fair. I know some people don't like them, but a few of the films involving them are rather good, and they've been around since at least 1981 (the first Return of the Living Dead). There's some prose fiction that suggests that (SF based) zombies are some sort of larval stage, and they're in the process of metamorphosing into something a lot more dangerous, but I don't think that's made it into any films yet. Km Newman and Lucuis Shephard both do a particularly good improvisations around that riff.
The mobility vs fortification thing is a good point, but there's at least a few zombie films that show roads gridlocked with abandoned cars. IIRC, that's why the protagonists have nicked a helicopter to make their getaway at the start of the original DOTD, isn't it? Also, in a lot of zombie fiction the dead rising and eating people is portrayed as a global phenomenon rather than a local one, so there might not be anywhere zombie free to head off to. (One film I've always wanted to see is a crew stuck on a space station while the zombies take the planet below over. Take the poor sod who was stuck up on the MIR for a year during the collapse of the soviet union and run with that...)

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/8/2016 4:30:53 PM

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Eagles. Mount Doom. 'Nuff said.

Granted, that started with the books and not the film adaptations.

But my favourite 'are you serious' moment would have to be a behind-the-scenes factoid; Cleveland, OH institutes shiny new incentives for filmmakers, and the crew of Pulse travel all the way to Romania to film a story that takes place in... Cleveland.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/10/2016 9:23:30 AM

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Okay, granted this goes back a few years, but for the John Wayne fans.

In the movie War Wagon, the bad guy mounts a turret on the armored wagon used to transport gold from his mine to the rail head. In the turret he put a Gatling gun.

In the scenes where the gun is fired, you can clearly see there is no magazine in the weapon for ammo.....

We wont even touch the fact that the crank used to spin the barrels and thus fire the weapon also happens to be missing.

The questions resulting from these observations are too numerous to mention.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/18/2016 8:43:41 PM

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Got onemore for you folks.

In mission to mars, Gary Sinise recognizes a DNA strand as human by looking at a small segment, how the hell could he tell it was human?

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/18/2016 9:01:50 PM

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Sometimes gun blunders in cheap movies can be fun. There`s a zombie movie called State of Emergency where one character uses a rifle top pick them off while another makes a run for it outside, in the shots going back and forth as he picks them off you can clearly see some shots he has the lens cap ON the scope, others its off, no continuity. Movie itself wasnt that bad for being cheap.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/19/2016 6:28:41 AM

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Myself, I'm a lot more tolerant of continuity goofs in cheap movies than I am of stuff somebody should have spotted and fixed in big budget blockbusters...

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 11:44:01 AM

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Here is a good one.

In the opening scenes of Guardians of the Galaxy, our miscreant/criminally minded hero is escaping from the baddies.

He takes off in his ship, starts heading for orbit, the ship gets splashed with a geyser of water...

And the ship stalls.

I dont know about the rest of you, but if I owned a starship that stalled when it got splashed with water, I would be looking to trade it in OR finding a lawyer to sue someone.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 11:47:58 AM

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To be honest, my main beef with that one is that they've turned Starlord into a lovable criminal goof: I much preferred the complete and utter shit he'd always been written as in the comics since the '70s. Why turn him into Rick Jones?

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 12:44:51 PM

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To be honest, my main beef with that one is that they've turned Starlord into a lovable criminal goof: I much preferred the complete and utter shit he'd always been written as in the comics since the '70s. Why turn him into Rick Jones?

Look what they did to deadpool! Come on, his principle main character trait was his blood thirsty, gruesome ways of dispatching people.

Now, he is a comedian with delusions of goodness and honor.

Deadpool is, at least in printed form, the ultimate psychotic killer that makes jack the ripper look like Ghandi!

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 1:10:09 PM

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I always thought he was a shoddy rip off of Lobo, but that as well, sure.

(Peter Quill, in his first story, murdered a rival astronaut in cold blood so that he'd be the one to talk to some gerundy title alien and become the Starlord. No shit dance moves in that comic...)

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 1:43:52 PM

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I always thought he was a shoddy rip off of Lobo, but that as well, sure.

(Peter Quill, in his first story, murdered a rival astronaut in cold blood so that he'd be the one to talk to some gerundy title alien and become the Starlord. No shit dance moves in that comic...)

The sad thing is that even though it is through Marvel Studios, Stan Lee has little input in the movies anymore.

What is worse, is that the contract he signed to bail out Marval pretty much took his input and dumped it down the toilet.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 2:30:25 PM

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Well, there's a lot of debate about how much input he had in the first place besides writing better dialogue than Kirby or Ditko could manage in the 'Sixties, isn't there? (The dialogue thing is not to be sniffed at, though: just look at the flapdoodle Ditko has his characters spout in Blue Beetle and The Question, and Kirby was incapable of writing anybody who talked like a human being, which is why the Fourth World stuff is the his best work. I wouldn't dismiss the gloriously '60s speech in the better Spiderman and Fantastic Four stories as an insignificant contribution, myself.)

I think the early Starlord stories were after Roy Thomas had taken over as Marvel's EIC, so Lee wouldn't have had any input on those anyway, though.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 2:52:44 PM

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Well, there's a lot of debate about how much input he had in the first place besides writing better dialogue than Kirby or Ditko could manage in the 'Sixties, isn't there? (The dialogue thing is not to be sniffed at, though: just look at the flapdoodle Ditko has his characters spout in Blue Beetle and The Question, and Kirby was incapable of writing anybody who talked like a human being, which is why the Fourth World stuff is the his best work. I wouldn't dismiss the gloriously '60s speech in the better Spiderman and Fantastic Four stories as an insignificant contribution, myself.)

I think the early Starlord stories were after Roy Thomas had taken over as Marvel's EIC, so Lee wouldn't have had any input on those anyway, though.

Granted, Stan Lee is best known for his artwork and his earlier comics. After he (along with Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko and many others) became the driving force behind the company's creativity trust in 1961, the company boomed.

It was when the popularity of comics crashed in the late 70's he became the sole owner/idea man. In all reality, Stan (and I will be burned at the stake for saying this) is best when working with a group that are just throwing ideas around. He can take something and flesh it out in ways most would not have thought of.

In fact, that is the way that most comic book story lines start. In an bull pen with everyone throwing out ideas and someone fleshing out the better ones.

The problem today is that many writers in the industry, for better or worse, dont like to work that way.

All that being said, I have to ask, What the hell is Nick Fury's secret to long life and good health?

Nick Fury was introduced as Sgt. Nick Fury after assuming command of an infantry company in WW2. Aside from a little graying around the temples, and the loss of an eye, he is still as spry as he was when he was a young brash, trooper in France.

Now, doing the math, he had just made sargent when Pearl Harbor was bombed, and considering the slow rise in ranks back then, he would have had to be in his late 20's (lets say 28) so he was born in 1913.

That makes Nick Fury, commander of SHEILD 103 years old.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 3:04:20 PM

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Are you sure you're not thinking of Larry Leiber (Stan's brother) as the artist? Stan was a talented guy, but I'm sure all of his credits at Marvel were as a scriptwriter or an editor rather than artist. (And absolutely on the brainstorming thing:that's the thing that mainstream comics can do that some guy drawing in his basement can't do, and when it works it often seems to work gloriously.)

As for Nick Fury, I must unveil my hidden nerditude for this. Supposedly he and the rest of the Howling Commados were dosed with a serum that was an attempt to replicate the supersoldier serum that created Captain America. It didn't do that, but it did slow down Nick (and Dum Dum, who I think is the only other member of that unit who wasn't shot during the war)'s aging process a lot.

Or you could take Garth Ennis' line on the character, which is that the way he lost his eye (he still has a bullet lodged in his skull according to Ennis) fucked up his hormone balance so badly it stopped him aging.

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 3:27:35 PM

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Are you sure you're not thinking of Larry Leiber (Stan's brother) as the artist? Stan was a talented guy, but I'm sure all of his credits at Marvel were as a scriptwriter or an editor rather than artist. (And absolutely on the brainstorming thing:that's the thing that mainstream comics can do that some guy drawing in his basement can't do, and when it works it often seems to work gloriously.)

As for Nick Fury, I must unveil my hidden nerditude for this. Supposedly he and the rest of the Howling Commados were dosed with a serum that was an attempt to replicate the supersoldier serum that created Captain America. It didn't do that, but it did slow down Nick (and Dum Dum, who I think is the only other member of that unit who wasn't shot during the war)'s aging process a lot.

Or you could take Garth Ennis' line on the character, which is that the way he lost his eye (he still has a bullet lodged in his skull according to Ennis) fucked up his hormone balance so badly it stopped him aging.

Actually Stan Lee was originally hired as a copy artist, and is quite good, or was until about 62-63. He was riding his bike in central park and (stories vary as to the exact cause of the accident) lost an argument with a tree and a few large rocks, resulting in a couple of rather ugly cuts to both hands. He basically lost his fine motor control after the accident.

As for Nick and the Howling Commandos and the serum story, it is but one of many that have popped up over the years as to his lack of aging.

Personally, I preferred his attitude as Sgt. Fury, over the much more easy going Director of Shield. Sgt Fury was known to have lost his calm with numerous Allied commanders, both via radio and in person.

I will even go on to say, of all the Marvel heroes that have gotten movies, I would like to see Cloak and Dagger get their own as well.

But, lets be honest, the studios have FUCKED UP the backstories on so many of the movie versions of heroes it aint even funny.

Electra, Deadpool, Star Lord, are just three examples. Hell half the back stories for the xmen movies are screwed up.

In Deadpool, Colossus is embarrassed by Angel Dust's boob hanging out? Seriously? Looking at his history before Deadpool, that guy got laid more often than any of the xmen, or any mutant in the Marvel universe.

I mean, I was a kid when Spider man first showed up on the news stands (peter parker was the ultimate dork) and I bought a first copy of the xmen (wished I still had all those old books, I could by a small country with what they are worth now.)

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RE: Movie related dumb questions, or - 8/20/2016 4:23:11 PM

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I'd not heard that story about Stan Lee messing his hands up, but it definitely sounds convincing: his brother's a bloody good draughtsman, and these things seem to run in families: just look at Joe Kubert and John Romita's kids.

You'd probably enjoy the Ennis comics if you prefer the Sergeant Fury stuff to the Shield Bond pastiches.

I always think it's a bit off that the '60s X Men comics go for more than the good ones now. They're not the best Lee/Kirby Marvels, to put it mildly. The Claremont/Byrne stuff from the turn of the '80s does go for a lot, but nothing like as much as the '60s ones, which is a shame.

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