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Kirata -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 5:14:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Surely you aren't claiming that all white Republicans are racists.

No, but many are. I wonder what the percentage is?

Well let's have a look at the findings from some data....

There are white racists in both parties. By most questions, they represent a minority of white voters in both parties. They probably represent a slightly larger minority of white Republicans than white Democrats.

Fortunately, the expression of racism by whites toward blacks has decreased over time, and for Americans in both parties — at least, according to this survey. In 1990, the index of negative racial attitudes stood at 40 percent for white Democrats and 41 percent for white Republicans.

There hasn’t been much of an overall increase or decrease in the index since Obama took office. On average, between the 2004 and 2006 editions of the surveys — the last two before Obama was either a president or a candidate — the index of negative racial attitudes stood at 22 percent for white Democrats and 26 percent for white Republicans.
~Source

And a look at where they are....

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K.




DominantWrestler -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 5:16:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler
How about this, most white American racists vote republican if they bother to vote

And most radical Muslim Americans will vote Democrat if they bother to vote.

What's your point?

Black Extremist groups will also vote Democrats.

So?




Most Muslim Americans are not radicalized.

And an even greater % of white Republicans aren't racist.

I'm not sure that Herman Cain is that big a percentage of the Republican party. Are you saying he's fat?

I didn't know he was white.
Surely you aren't claiming that all white Republicans are racists.

You also thought I was English when I didn't agree with your interpretation of the civil war
No, but many are. I wonder what the percentage is? I wonder how many would be racist by my definition vs your definition?

Still making an attempt to carry on a lost argument from another thread poor boy.

Lost? Bring up one point that contributed to your views without having greater implications against your general premise. Saying the civil war did not have to do with slavery, race or racism is asanine

Just one point with citation that proved you right. I'm waiting




BamaD -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 5:19:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler
How about this, most white American racists vote republican if they bother to vote

And most radical Muslim Americans will vote Democrat if they bother to vote.

What's your point?

Black Extremist groups will also vote Democrats.

So?




Most Muslim Americans are not radicalized.

And an even greater % of white Republicans aren't racist.

I'm not sure that Herman Cain is that big a percentage of the Republican party. Are you saying he's fat?

I didn't know he was white.
Surely you aren't claiming that all white Republicans are racists.

You also thought I was English when I didn't agree with your interpretation of the civil war
No, but many are. I wonder what the percentage is? I wonder how many would be racist by my definition vs your definition?

Still making an attempt to carry on a lost argument from another thread poor boy.

Lost? Bring up one point that contributed to your views without having greater implications against your general premise. Saying the civil war did not have to do with slavery, race or racism asanine

Just one point with citation that proved you right. I'm waiting

Go to the thread with that conversation and stop trying to derail this thread.




DominantWrestler -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 5:57:24 PM)

To stay on the topic discrimination dealing with law enforcement

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

The justice department also just issued a statement on the discrimination within the Baltimore police department. I think it came out yesterday, if not, within the last week




BamaD -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 6:13:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

To stay on the topic discrimination dealing with law enforcement

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

The justice department also just issued a statement on the discrimination within the Baltimore police department. I think it came out yesterday, if not, within the last week

And every cop in the Freddie Gray case had the charges dropped, not only that but the prosecutor is being sued by them and investigated for prosecutorial misconduct as she was clearly doing this to further her political goals.
You have choosen a horrible example.

This isn't about police conduct, it is about how people who commit crimes are more likely to have problems with the police that those who don't.




Lucylastic -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 6:20:14 PM)

you dont believe their is any police brutality??
have you even read the report?
it might open your mind....




Aylee -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 9:01:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It is a well know fact that the vast majority of people who get DUIs are people who drink. This is clearly do to a bias toward teatotalers otherwise they would get more citations. Drinkers get a disproportionate and discriminatory share of the citations.


DUI laws are legally and morally wrong and should be gotten rid of.


I think you are being sarcastic, but agree with the statement. but hold you responsible for any accidents or anything.

In fact in the whole of law you should be held responsible.

T^T


I am absolutely NOT being sarcastic.

We have vehicular manslaughter and such laws. We also have reckless driving laws.

DUI laws are for revenue enhancement. They do not make the streets/people any safer.




Greta75 -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 9:10:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since you are a known liar we are going to need a cite for this ignorant opinion.

A well known liar himself accusing other people of being liars. LMAO.




Greta75 -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 9:18:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Greta75



Black Extremist groups will also vote Democrats.



Which black extremest groups, or are you lying again as ususal?[8|]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1BD3bjOTcc
Who do you think this dude will vote for? Reps or Dems?

Who do you think the Black Panthers are voting for? Reps or Dems?

The point is, just because white supremacists will vote for Reps, doesn't mean anything.





ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 9:43:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
And your point is...?
.... flying right over your head. As usual.


Yes it apparently did go over your head.




Termyn8or -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/10/2016 10:04:13 PM)

When I was "on vacation" or DUI I met some interesting characters. Most of the Blacks were in there for petty theft or dealing small amounts of drugs that weren't worth a felony. A domestic violence here and there.

The Whites were in there for DUI, and some, but fewer for theft and violence. But the Blacks, almost none for DUI. I don't know if they can drive better drunk, or drink less but do more drugs or what. Like I said, I've known people who can drink a fifth and then drive perfectly.

We need fundamental changes in the law here. First of all selling drugs is not a crime, doctors do it all the time. You should only be barred from having a car if you have been at fault for hurting someone. You should not be barred from having a gun unless you have purposely hurt someone. We do need building codes and zoning laws, but we don't need laws against working on your car in your own driveway, or having one without license plates, or a fucking jetski.

And the worst part is that there are plenty of people who support these fucked up laws. As long as they have the right to do what they want they care not for your rights. If they don't smoke, they support laws against it. But if they did they would not support them. Me me me, fuck everybody else. Here, they supported a cigarette tax - to build a stadium. And at the (outdoor) stadium, smoking is prohibited.

My fellow Americans my ass. I want nothing to do with at least half of them and the rest, well I have enough friends. And let me tell you, when I had my own house I could always scare up a good crowd on a Friday night. Now, with the smoking we are relegated to the garage, but still people will sit out there in 100F heat or 0F cold rather than go to a bar, or somewhere they cannot do what they want.

So, while the OP is right about discrimination against drinkers, and I mean the ones who have never hurt anyone, there is even worse discrimination against smokers. And people say it smells bad and they get second hand cancer, well then die motherfuckers because it was never a problem before. If you die because someone smokes near you, explain these 90 year old guys who have smoked two packs a day of Camel non-filters since they were 16. I personally knew someone who died of lung cancer though never smoked, and came from a non-smoking home. Shame, he was a nice guy. Too nice. But to say that since I smoked around him so I killed him is fucking ridiculous. And they talk about "Well you draw through the filter", the filter only mellows the taste, and what's more these old geezers were smoking non-filters anyway.

And it smells bad ? There are parts of this city where the smell of raw sewage is so strong to just want to move. Have you driven behind a diesel truck with the windows open ? (diesel mechanics have a higher rate of cancer than smokers) Have you worked with someone who seemingly bathes in perfume ?

But only the smokers pay.

Then we got Mr Afluenza kills four people driving on drugs who gets a slap on the wrist. Haven't heard much about him lately, maybe one of the relatives of the people he killed killed him. Like I said, you get fucked up and do something it should be considered not only willful, but premeditated. But if nothing happens you should be left alone for the most part, at least legally.

T^T




DesideriScuri -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 1:14:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874
We have a law over here whereby the bartender or bar-owner can be fined for serving somebody too much booze. How much is too much and who decides, I wonder ?
All the pubs and bars also have little notices up that state that if you get drunk you will be made to leave the premises. So they get you drunk and relieve you of a large slice of money and then toss you out !!!!


There can be some liability here if a bar continues to pour you alcohol when it's obvious you're wasted.

But, you nailed it when you pondered on how much was too much. If it's a set # of drinks, then you run the risk of cutting off a patron well before he has a good buzz on, or you might still run the risk of serving "too much" alcohol to a lightweight. If you base it on physical demeanor of the patron, you, again, run the risk of continuing to serve alcohol to someone who is drunk, but can physically remain in control, but with the reaction speed of a wall..

There was a situation in NW Ohio (where I am) where a wasted guy ended up getting on the highway in the wrong direction and had a head-on collision, killing the other driver. Police had been notified by a Taco Bell employee when the guy went through the drive-thru. The Taco Bell employee noticed the guy was well past gone, and even tried to get the guy to come inside. When that didn't work, police were called. They didn't catch up to the guy until he had already gotten into the accident. There was a lot of chatter about going after the bar owner for serving this guy too much, but how do you control that when you don't know if he's the only one buying himself drinks?






Termyn8or -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 4:19:25 AM)

"There was a situation in NW Ohio (where I am) where a wasted guy ended up getting on the highway in the wrong direction and had a head-on collision, killing the other driver. Police had been notified by a Taco Bell employee when the guy went through the drive-thru. The Taco Bell employee noticed the guy was well past gone, and even tried to get the guy to come inside. When that didn't work, police were called. They didn't catch up to the guy until he had already gotten into the accident. There was a lot of chatter about going after the bar owner for serving this guy too much, but how do you control that when you don't know if he's the only one buying himself drinks? "

There is something else about that. When you drink alcoholic beverages, it does not get to your brain immediately. In fact it doesn't even get into your bloodstream immediately. It does not take long though but if someone drinks shots real fast it can get ahead of itself. I had that happen once, my cousin in law bought me 23 shots at the bar. Holy shit, it was alright, but later that alcohol kicked in and I got kicked out. The olman said that maybe he thought she was cheating on him with me. But I would never do that. (get a divorce and bring me his money lol, but I would not do that)

But 23 ounces of near half alcohol, so like 10 ounces (and like a half dozen beers to wash it down, which was they way we did it back then). How many ounces of blood do we have ?

No car, it would have been the death of me. Walked 56 miles home uphill. It was actually about four miles but... I ain't never drinking with her again. The next morning was the closest to a hangover I ever had.

But as far as I know she doesn't drive, or at least did not. Neither of my Grandmothers drove. Or drank either.

T^T




Awareness -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 8:12:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

To stay on the topic discrimination dealing with law enforcement

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

The justice department also just issued a statement on the discrimination within the Baltimore police department. I think it came out yesterday, if not, within the last week

And every cop in the Freddie Gray case had the charges dropped,
Look, you're either a fucking liar or a fucking idiot. Charges were dropped against 3 officers, the rest were found not guilty.

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not only that but the prosecutor is being sued by them and investigated for prosecutorial misconduct as she was clearly doing this to further her political goals.
Only in America could police officers murder a black man then sue claiming THEY'RE the victims.


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This isn't about police conduct, it is about how people who commit crimes are more likely to have problems with the police that those who don't.
No. People who are black are more likely to have problems with the police than people who are white.




thishereboi -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 9:09:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you dont believe their is any police brutality??
have you even read the report?
it might open your mind....


Where did he say he didn't believe there is any police brutality?




Lucylastic -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 10:02:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you dont believe their is any police brutality??
have you even read the report?
it might open your mind....


Where did he say he didn't believe there is any police brutality?

notice the question mark?
it looks like this>>>> ?

Now i know how you just like to pop in, shit, not add anything to the topic, and flounce
I'm also asked if he has read the report too
Does that mean..... he didn't say he had read the report?
No, Its a simple fucking question, or rather two.
The last was a statement,
well I guess you didn't mention my atrocious spelling, I should count myself lucky.
[8|]




BamaD -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 11:26:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

To stay on the topic discrimination dealing with law enforcement

https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf

The justice department also just issued a statement on the discrimination within the Baltimore police department. I think it came out yesterday, if not, within the last week

And every cop in the Freddie Gray case had the charges dropped,
Look, you're either a fucking liar or a fucking idiot. Charges were dropped against 3 officers, the rest were found not guilty.

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not only that but the prosecutor is being sued by them and investigated for prosecutorial misconduct as she was clearly doing this to further her political goals.
Only in America could police officers murder a black man then sue claiming THEY'RE the victims.


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This isn't about police conduct, it is about how people who commit crimes are more likely to have problems with the police that those who don't.
No. People who are black are more likely to have problems with the police than people who are white.


And when I pointed out that some of the officers had been aquitted I was also called a liar, you guys need to get your story straight.
Charges dropped or aquittals the number of convictions is still zero.




BamaD -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 11:30:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you dont believe their is any police brutality??
have you even read the report?
it might open your mind....


Where did he say he didn't believe there is any police brutality?

Since I didn't post a wall pointing out every time a cop ever mistreated anyone since the begining of time I must not believe there is any police brutality.
By appllying the same standard I could have asked Awarness if he didn't believe that any politician had ever overcharged to help their political future, but that would have been stupid so I didn't do it.




Termyn8or -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/11/2016 8:17:57 PM)

"Only in America could police officers murder a black man then sue claiming THEY'RE the victims. "

Or charging a suspect for hurting his fist with their face.

Yes, it happened.

T^T




thishereboi -> RE: Duis are discriminatory. (8/12/2016 3:17:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you dont believe their is any police brutality??
have you even read the report?
it might open your mind....


Where did he say he didn't believe there is any police brutality?

notice the question mark?
it looks like this>>>> ?

Now i know how you just like to pop in, shit, not add anything to the topic, and flounce
I'm also asked if he has read the report too
Does that mean..... he didn't say he had read the report?
No, Its a simple fucking question, or rather two.
The last was a statement,
well I guess you didn't mention my atrocious spelling, I should count myself lucky.
[8|]



Don't get your panties all wadded up, I just asked a question.




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