jlf1961
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It is really funny that the most vocal group of anti-Islam people on the planet are predominately:
White American Conservatives.
This is the same group that has spawned:
Eric Rudolph
Timothy McVeigh
Wade Michael Page
Dylann Roof
Robert Lewis Dear
Scott Roeder
James Kopp
And then claim that Christians do not use terrorism and random acts of violence to make a political statement.
They will scream that all conservative Americans cannot be judged by the acts of these few men while maintaining that all Muslims should be judged by the acts of terrorists.
And lets not forget Donald Trump wanting all Muslims in the US (whether born here or not) be put under surveillance by the FBI to keep them from conducting acts of terrorism while completely forgetting men like Lieutenant Michael A. Monsoor, an Arab American, Muslim who earned the Medal Of Honor in the Iraq war.
Lets not forget Donald Trumps hint that all Muslims support ISIS, while ignoring the fact that the majority of those killed by ISIS in Syria, Iraq and other countries where they have a strong presence are Muslims.
They will say that if Muslims were not in support of ISIS, more would be fighting against ISIS, ignoring the fact that the main reason that more Muslims are not fighting ISIS is that no body has given them the weapons to fight with, and the countries that are supplying weapons to fight ISIS are not western countries, but Muslim countries and Muslims with money.
They forget that the US helped get the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan, we trained the tribal fighters in North Eastern Afghanistan along the Pakistan border. We supplied them with weapons.
And when the soviets were driven out, we walked away without hanging around to help establish a stable government, and when the Taliban took control of Afghanistan, the US looked the other way.
Twenty years later, when the Taliban was actively supporting Al Qaeda, and that support gave refuge to the men that pulled off the 9/11 attacks, someone in Washington decided that we 'needed to help' in Afghanistan.
The men we trained in the 80's were not the Taliban, they had been fighting the Taliban the whole time, they were Muslims.
For twenty years Muslims were fighting the very people we wanted to take out and did nothing.
These Anti Muslim conservatives will scream that Muslim terrorists have no reason (other than the fact that the US is a Christian country) to attack US citizens, and forget that the US has done absolutely nothing to stop the violence in the middle east EXCEPT give more military aid to Israel and Islamic countries we need.
The only thing that kept the men who lead ISIS now in check was the same dictator we took out in Iraq. Saddam may have been a madman, but lets face it, when he was in power, ISIS and Al Qaeda had no active groups in Iraq. But then he executed everyone that opposed him.
Lets not forget the US supplied Iraq with weapons and military hardware during their war with Iran.
When Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds, we did nothing.
The US acted against him when he invaded Kuwait, and then because we had to secure our supply of middle eastern oil.
Yeah, Bush Sr. pointed out the atrocities Iraqi troops were committing and saying that was bad, yet when innocents were being slaughtered inside Iraqi borders we did nothing.
The US government tells Israel to stop building settlements in the occupied territories, but does nothing to punish Israel for doing so, but when Hamas fires rockets into those settlements, we stand back without saying a word when Israeli forces shell neighborhoods to get the rocket launchers (which could be hit with little collateral damage to non combatants with the smart weapons we sell Israel.)
Let you folks in on a little secret.
We are targets not because we are a Christian nation, but because we have a double standard. The US and western countries have done little to stop Israel from continuing with its bullshit, or the Christian militias from blowing the shit out of Muslim refugee camps.
Lets face it, our retaliation strikes do more to recruit members for ISIS than preventing it. When you use explosives to get one person, such as a rocket attack from a predator drone, you are gonna have collateral damage.
And a 13 year old boy is not going to be easy to convince that the Americans arent trying to kill him because he is Muslim when he just saw most of his family killed by an American air strike to get some terrorist leader.
All he knows is that his mom and dad were killed by Americans.
When we shelled areas in Iraq or Afghanistan, we probably got the guys shooting at us, but we also got people who were just trying to survive and not shooting at us, and in the process gave a lot of people a damn good reason to hate us.
The west created the problems in the Middle East and Muslim countries back in 1918 when the Ottoman Empire was broken up.
Great Britain promised Arab tribesman who helped them fight the Turks an independent country, and didnt follow through.
Then the British and French subdivided the former ottoman empire into individual countries, without one thought of insuring lasting peace. They put groups that had been fighting among themselves inside those countries and gave power to whatever group they could get the most out of.
They completely forgot that the only entity that had maintained the peace in the region had been the Ottoman Empire.
And now, 100 years later the western world is paying the price for our arrogance and short sightedness, and blaming an entire religion for it.
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