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kdsub -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 10:57:31 AM)

Good for you... that is what the block feature is for. But I must mention you are assuming as well when you call people losers only because you do not approve of their approach.

Butch



WhoreMods -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 12:12:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

what I hate about BDSM porn is that they have these hot looking 18-25 year old "submissives" who have no clue. When many of us are just average folk.

[sm=jaw.gif]
You'll be saying that some of the girls in these films aren't really lesbians next...



TheMistressLucy -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 12:16:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Good for you... that is what the block feature is for. But I must mention you are assuming as well when you call people losers only because you do not approve of their approach.

Butch


I'm not calling anyone a loser, they call themselves losers or failures when they first message me.

An example message from yesterday...

"I am a failure. I'm seeking someone to build me into less of one. "



PeonForHer -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 1:31:45 PM)

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"I am a failure. I'm seeking someone to build me into less of one. "


You could try replying with 'Forget the wank stuff, tell me who and what you are'. Still, none of the femdoms here have suggested this and I presume at least some have tried it ... so I don't hold out many hopes.



TheMistressLucy -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 1:33:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

kdsub its profile is clarity - none can ask for more.

TheMistressLucy you are allowed to post those links feel free to do so....long as you do not demand gold.




I do not feel the need to post them :)



Kana -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 2:44:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: chocolateboy1976

Really porn..where does it end?

In the past, taking cum to the face would have got an actress a bonus...then came anal ...then dp etc....now it seems as an actress to get paid more you have to go even further.

I know.
Isn't that great?

Seriously though, some people are into heavy and extreme ownership kink. And there are those that take it to serious extremes. Tie in some total objectification, depersonalization and humiliation with some hard core degradation and you are barking right up some folks alley.
Good times if ya ask me :-)



LilJuly76 -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 3:21:56 PM)

they could be or they could be acting who knows hehe



mistermaid -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 3:44:16 PM)

I've never thought of myself as either a loser or a failure, I'm also not weak, a maggot, pathetic, a wimp, a piggy or any of the other terms a great many so called Domme's use in their profiles. I'm mature yes, but I'm fit, retired, have my own home which is paid for, drive a small car, I have no need for a bigger model. However one thing I am is lacking in social skills, I'm not good in social situations due to a lack of self esteem and respect.

Does that make me weak or a loser? No.

I'm just me that's all.



ObeyMasterJodah -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 4:45:19 PM)

I've never understood the entire, "I'm worthless" sort of mentality. It's concerning, really, for anybody to open with that as their first impression.

Most people are, you may be shocked to know, human. As mentioned earlier, humans want to feel loved (or at least liked) and respected (or at least appreciated). When my subs and I interact I'm very careful to ensure that they understand that, while I'm doing them a service as their Dom, they're doing me a kindness by being a sub. It's an exchange of more than just power, it's a collaboration. What good is a Dom without a sub, or a Owner without a pet, a little without her Daddy? We enter into these relationships at various depths, maybe 24/7, maybe occasional meetups, or primarily online playfulness like I'm wont to do, but ultimately it's a collaboration between adults that understand what they want and are willing to go about getting it.

When someone comes to me with that sort of introduction (and it has happened, although not often) my initial reaction is worry. That's not exactly something that gets my blood pumping, if you know what I mean. I feel like you need to have a certain level of confidence in yourself in order to play in this sandbox, no matter which side of the leash you're on, and those sorts of people fail the "You Must Be This Mentally Stable To Ride" test for me.



TheMistressLucy -> RE: Losers and failures (8/30/2016 4:51:03 PM)

I have a very loyal servant, he likes to call himself my worthless slave. He said it's because he feels inferior to me and unworthy to serve me. He is a retired soldier and policeman and obviously not worthless. Very different though to these first messages from self proclaimed losers.



thishereboi -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 2:50:48 AM)

If I had to guess I would say at least with some of them it's because there are so many princess profiles on the other side asking for worthless losers and failures to serve and support them. Guys read those profiles and assume that all women are looking for the same thing.



PeonForHer -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 3:09:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

If I had to guess I would say at least with some of them it's because there are so many princess profiles on the other side asking for worthless losers and failures to serve and support them. Guys read those profiles and assume that all women are looking for the same thing.


Yep. As a malesub, until you can sort the money-grabbers from the real femdoms on this site, you have no chance.

Myself, I generally find it easy these days. However, one nearly caught me recently: she claimed that she was currently staying at an address nearby. I'm still playing with her, and I don't mean in the BDSM sense.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 3:19:25 AM)

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I'm also not complaining about messages I receive

You could have fooled me.



NookieNotes -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 8:48:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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"I am a failure. I'm seeking someone to build me into less of one. "


You could try replying with 'Forget the wank stuff, tell me who and what you are'. Still, none of the femdoms here have suggested this and I presume at least some have tried it ... so I don't hold out many hopes.


Him: Mistress your lowly slave awaits your direction.

Me: I don't own you. You are not my slave.

Him: Your slave is new to this and hopes to be broken in by a Mistress like you.

Me: I'm not sure what makes you think that this is how you approach a dominant woman, but you are going about it all wrong. Why not try telling me who you are, and trying to get to know me?

Him: Mistress, please instruct your slave in the correct way. As your slave said he is a virgin at this and has not received training.

Me: It is not my responsibility to teach you how behave like a worthwhile human being.

Is this how you would introduce yourself to a woman at a restaurant? Would you keep calling yourself her slave, even after she said you were not?

How did you make it to 61 acting this way?

Him: Goodbye.

Case in point? *grins*




PeonForHer -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 9:55:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

"I am a failure. I'm seeking someone to build me into less of one. "


You could try replying with 'Forget the wank stuff, tell me who and what you are'. Still, none of the femdoms here have suggested this and I presume at least some have tried it ... so I don't hold out many hopes.


Him: Mistress your lowly slave awaits your direction.

Me: I don't own you. You are not my slave.

Him: Your slave is new to this and hopes to be broken in by a Mistress like you.

Me: I'm not sure what makes you think that this is how you approach a dominant woman, but you are going about it all wrong. Why not try telling me who you are, and trying to get to know me?

Him: Mistress, please instruct your slave in the correct way. As your slave said he is a virgin at this and has not received training.

Me: It is not my responsibility to teach you how behave like a worthwhile human being.

Is this how you would introduce yourself to a woman at a restaurant? Would you keep calling yourself her slave, even after she said you were not?

How did you make it to 61 acting this way?

Him: Goodbye.

Case in point? *grins*





Was that a real exchange of messages - or a characterisation of them?

Well, either way ... *Sigh*.

I do wonder, you know. To me, it makes sense that if you've spent so much of your psychic energy over so many years of your life fantasising about a thing, that fantasising is going to affect your view of real life in ways of which you're not conscious. Isn't that just psychology, primary school grade? If you can only see a relationship in terms of her as a goddess and yourself as a pig, you're never going to live outside of the fantasy world. Christ, a bit of self-realisation isn't that painful, is it?



NookieNotes -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 2:35:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Was that a real exchange of messages - or a characterisation of them?


That was direct quoting, m'dear.

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Well, either way ... *Sigh*.

I do wonder, you know. To me, it makes sense that if you've spent so much of your psychic energy over so many years of your life fantasising about a thing, that fantasising is going to affect your view of real life in ways of which you're not conscious. Isn't that just psychology, primary school grade? If you can only see a relationship in terms of her as a goddess and yourself as a pig, you're never going to live outside of the fantasy world. Christ, a bit of self-realisation isn't that painful, is it?


Oh yes. Very much. I've had this conversation a few times lately, and I think you've touched on something very deep.





PeonForHer -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 3:04:14 PM)

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Oh yes. Very much. I've had this conversation a few times lately, and I think you've touched on something very deep.


Thank you. I am, of course, a very deep person, as you so perceptively observe. [:)]

A long while ago, I got into Jungian psychology. It was all about myths - and, crucially, why certain myths *stick* and are pretty eternal, in this story, that story, this film, that film, etc, etc, etc.

One of these 'eternal stories' is that of the Enchantress, Circe, and the men she turns into pigs. These are men who - literally - are so enchanted by Circe that they cannot help but act like animals. They lose their human control ... and they're gone. Thousands of years later - the same theme, with Marlene Dietrich playing the nightclub singer who bewitches the professor in 'The Blue Angel'. All his intellectual's control dissipates. Forward again half a century: the episode of Star Trek in which Kirk and the usual team visit a planet run by women who control men with the 'power rings' on their fingers. The Queen forces Kirk to act like he's a braying horse.

Jung himself said that the 'feminine side' in a male can certainly take that turn. You must let it out and let it do its stuff - but you must *not* give it unlimited freedom. It isn't a real female - it's just your feminine side. You have to stay in command. Not suppress - big difference - but stay in control.

What that translates to is that you might whisper the words 'My Goddess' between the sheets, and let the rapture sweep over you ... but in the morning she will probably fart at some point, and then you'll be obliged fondly to take the piss out of her.



DynamicDs -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 3:09:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

"I am a failure. I'm seeking someone to build me into less of one. "


You could try replying with 'Forget the wank stuff, tell me who and what you are'. Still, none of the femdoms here have suggested this and I presume at least some have tried it ... so I don't hold out many hopes.


Him: Mistress your lowly slave awaits your direction.

Me: I don't own you. You are not my slave.

Him: Your slave is new to this and hopes to be broken in by a Mistress like you.

Me: I'm not sure what makes you think that this is how you approach a dominant woman, but you are going about it all wrong. Why not try telling me who you are, and trying to get to know me?

Him: Mistress, please instruct your slave in the correct way. As your slave said he is a virgin at this and has not received training.

Me: It is not my responsibility to teach you how behave like a worthwhile human being.

Is this how you would introduce yourself to a woman at a restaurant? Would you keep calling yourself her slave, even after she said you were not?

How did you make it to 61 acting this way?

Him: Goodbye.

Case in point? *grins*



I got the same guy.



DesFIP -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 5:41:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ObeyMasterJodah

I've never understood the entire, "I'm worthless" sort of mentality. It's concerning, really, for anybody to open with that as their first impression.

When someone comes to me with that sort of introduction (and it has happened, although not often) my initial reaction is worry.



Lowly worm stuff is almost entirely a male fetish. The odds are that the women who wrote you asking for this extreme degradation were actually men with fake profiles.



HoneyBears -> RE: Losers and failures (8/31/2016 5:46:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

You could try replying with 'Forget the wank stuff, tell me who and what you are'. Still, none of the femdoms here have suggested this and I presume at least some have tried it ... so I don't hold out many hopes.

That would be like expecting your average male to be in touch with his innermost feeling nature. [8|]

(It would appear that this particularly clumsy, oftentimes doomed-to-fail approach, just might have a slim enough margin of success in garnering attention to make it worthwhile for said "loser" to keep on[line] churning his perpetual word-vomit machine.)

Or that random strangers can be reasoned with. Not.

Ain't no talking any sense into the little head, when it is the *slave* captain of the humiliation fetish ship. As in Ship of Fools ...

-- Lisa & Cub



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