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Awareness -> Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 11:00:58 AM)

However Hillary's fucking arrogance is going to lose the fucking race.

Let's be clear, people don't like this bitch, they don't trust this bitch. She has no fucking principles and does an about-turn on issues when it's convenient. But the real problem is that she's personifying the left's arrogance toward its opponents.

I have to laugh at the idiotic leftists in here calling me out for ad hominem. As I've said previously, it's a misunderstanding of the term. I'll destroy your argument due to its lack of logic and evidence, then call you a fucking moron. The abuse is simply a bonus, but - and this is the true irony - it is EXACTLY how the left conducts itself.

Take a look at the leftist crowd of usual suspects in this forum. Every single one of their arguments - when you distill it right down - is essentially the same basic premise. The people who disagree with them are bad people. It's arrogant character assassination and ad hominem en masse.

Well, it appears that tendency may just be losing the presidency for old Shillary.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-deplorables-trump-reaction-228030

quote:

Hillary Clinton handed Donald Trump two potentially detrimental storylines and, in a fresh bout of restraint, the Republican nominee hasn’t tried to grab both issues at once.

Over the last 24 hours, Trump’s team has urged its surrogates, and the candidate himself, to tamp down talk of her health and instead focus unrelentingly on her casting tens of millions of his supporters into a “basket of deplorables,” calling them “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it.” (Clinton has apologized for saying such labels applied to “half” his backers.)

“I think it’s the single biggest mistake of the political season,” Trump declared on Fox and Friends.


For once, he's actually right. The left's obsession with identity politics - and labeling everyone who disagrees with them a bigot - is a reflection of their arrogance. "Only we have the one true way and if you disagree, you're stupid, you're racist, you're a bigot, you're homophobic, you're Islamophobic, you're Transphobic and you probably eat dead flesh".

Never mind that the majority of the left's arguments are devoid of evidence and focus on emotion (a classic manipulative strategy), never mind that people who think and reason actually demonstrate a degree of political nuance. Never mind that some people are independent thinkers and like to draw their own conclusions without having an un-elected elite tell them what to think.

No. If you don't swallow the leftist dogma on a variety of subjects, then apparently you're a bigot.

Tell me, how's that workin' out for ya, folks? Because that attitude and your candidate is struggling to poll well against what is perhaps the most ridiculous Presidential candidate in history.




Nnanji -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 11:10:26 AM)

I've never put a bumper sticker on a car in my life. I'm thinking about getting one, now, that says I'm in the basket.




Termyn8or -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 11:11:52 AM)

It is the usual race to the bottom.

T^T




smartsub10 -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 11:13:49 AM)

Generalize much?




Nnanji -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 11:15:43 AM)

No, it's pretty specific.




mnottertail -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 11:41:15 AM)

Well a poll said the number is 65% Lindsay Graham says its 35% and so adding them up and dividing by 2 we have 50% which I think is a reasoned and moderate approach.




Awareness -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 12:06:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: smartsub10

Generalize much?
Let me see if I understand you. You're asking me if I generalise in a thread discussing Shillary's generalisation of 50% of Trump supporters as racist, sexist, homophobic and Islamaphobic? Not only is this the height of irony but it's clear the point has gone whistling right over your head.

You really are making a mockery of your pseudonym. I mean, "smartsub"?

Really?

More like "dumbasapostsub".




Lucylastic -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 1:02:20 PM)

FR
It would be nice if the complainers would actually watch the actual speech or link to it, to see the (basket of deplorables) comment in context, but they wont.
But its not the mistake of this week or last week, let alone the month or campaign.
What a freakin joke.

Clinton has the deplorable comment, which is while it is giving the poor widdle trumptoneers conniptions, it was far too kind.
Clinton has the email issue being rehashed weekly with nothing to make it in anyway criminal. To the law at least.
She has her health issue conspiracy(she DOES have walking pneumonia) But she IS NOT Dysphasic.
The complete clusterfuck over Bernie. DWS and the primary voting, Ugh
She has a problem, yes she does. Many and more. Her lies and ties are troubling.
Now if only this whole campaign hadn't been a massive shit storm of trump dipshittery, it would be appalling.
But you cant argue with the response so far from her haters...they are certainly proving her right with every word.

Here's a link to the video, her statement and her "regret" over the "half" comment.
Its a right wing site, so any falsehoods in there , you are welcome to....
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/regret-no-apology-hillary-clinton-basket-deplorables-slurs-trump-supporters/
(there's lots more horrendous hillary offerings there, have fun, just dont cream yer jeans.)

OTOH
If you would like a partial list of trumps and his "surrogates" shit....(video and links or transcripts) I can put my hands immediately on the following
Trump university
Birtherism (altho that is a thread on its own )
His Campaign finances.
Pam Bondi.
Being sued for rape of a 13 yr old girl
His insults to mexicans, muslims, gold star families, women, african americans, (who did I miss)
Not to mention Putin.

You vote who you wanna vote for. C'est la vie.
If you think that Trump is to blame for some of his bases hatred think on. Most of them are same hate filled xenophobic dumbshits they have always been. They have their "messiah" (dictator).
Their hatred of Hils as a dem and as a woman and her "lies and ties" has been around since she started out.

Trump loves the poorly educated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0

PS. I really dont like hillary, im far to the left of her. Nothing on earth could make me vote for trump.
Alas, I wont be voting [8|]

Will you Awareness?




tamaka -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 2:50:13 PM)

What i'd like to know what is *really* going on now that all the children (to put it nicely) are entranced in the show.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 3:08:37 PM)

LOL




DesideriScuri -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 3:21:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-deplorables-trump-reaction-228030

quote:

Hillary Clinton handed Donald Trump two potentially detrimental storylines and, in a fresh bout of restraint, the Republican nominee hasn’t tried to grab both issues at once.

Over the last 24 hours, Trump’s team has urged its surrogates, and the candidate himself, to tamp down talk of her health and instead focus unrelentingly on her casting tens of millions of his supporters into a “basket of deplorables,” calling them “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it.” (Clinton has apologized for saying such labels applied to “half” his backers.)

“I think it’s the single biggest mistake of the political season,” Trump declared on Fox and Friends.


I'm glad the campaign is not going after her health. It's come out that she has been diagnosed with pneumonia, which explains her coughing fit. And, being ill will definitely contribute to low energy levels and could be a big part of why she was having fainting issues Sunday.




servantforuse -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 4:07:06 PM)

They lied about her having pneumonia. I want to know what else is wrong with her.




Awareness -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 4:57:56 PM)

Lucy I wrote a measured response to this but Firefox fucking ate it. Instead I'll just point to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bring-back-bernie-sanders-clinton-might-actually-lose_us_57d66670e4b0273330ac45d0

I really don't think Clinton can win. She needs to drop out for the good of the country so Bernie Sanders can kick Trump's ass.

There's more than 2 Supreme Court judges to be nominated and we can't afford them to be determined by Trump. And Clinton is simply not going to get there. She's losing.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 5:55:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse
They lied about her having pneumonia. I want to know what else is wrong with her.


Have a cite for that?

I read they lied about her coughing fit being due to allergies, and that her fainting spell on Sunday was due to being overheated, but I didn't see anything about her not having pneumonia.




Greta75 -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 7:29:50 PM)

Fr
I am not saying this to be mean. But isn't Pneumonia life threatening for old people? In my country, most people around her age are struggling with other illnesses and then actually die because of Pneumonia. It's always the killing blow and can deteriorate very fast, especially for elderly. Seems like a life threatening illness to me. Also, the high stress of a President job, and Pneumonia. Bad combination! She should quit and take care of her health.

Other than that! I agree with Awareness about what's all the problem with the left. And why I lean more right and always like right leaning people better, despite sharing social positions the same as the left. There just seems to be less hypocrisy in comparison with right people.

And considering I am not even American and just observing American Politics from the outside, it's painfully obvious to me.




Lucylastic -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 8:34:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Lucy I wrote a measured response to this but Firefox fucking ate it. Instead I'll just point to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bring-back-bernie-sanders-clinton-might-actually-lose_us_57d66670e4b0273330ac45d0

I really don't think Clinton can win. She needs to drop out for the good of the country so Bernie Sanders can kick Trump's ass.

There's more than 2 Supreme Court judges to be nominated and we can't afford them to be determined by Trump. And Clinton is simply not going to get there. She's losing.



I hate when that happens....
I would be delighted to see Bernie be able to go up against him. Or even Biden. Kaine just doesnt have "it". in my opinion
I agree on the future of the SCOTUS, it would be a nightmare.
While I think she can still win, its been a clusterfuck and its hers to lose.
I wont be in the least surprised if trump wins.





Lucylastic -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 8:46:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse
They lied about her having pneumonia. I want to know what else is wrong with her.


Have a cite for that?

I read they lied about her coughing fit being due to allergies, and that her fainting spell on Sunday was due to being overheated, but I didn't see anything about her not having pneumonia.


If you look at the progression of pneumonia, it all fits, allergies, asthma can lead to congestion, congestion leads to infection, infection means coughing, dizzy, faint, fever etc and if not caught leads to pneumonia. It doesnt just present itself as pneumonia out of the blue. Plus it seems one of her staff was sick before her"attack..

While the campaign is being quiet(trumps) sorta, the extreme RW press are having a field day with it.
check out rush, or WND Or Breitbart, and Info wars.
Id like to see a cite, but I doubt its forthcoming from a legit source.

But from what I have read on infowars, she is dead and ABC announced it and retracted it...and shehas a body double walking around..(from the comment section)

http://www.infowars.com/this-video-will-cost-hillary-the-election/




popeye1250 -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 9:17:20 PM)

She has all the symptoms of Parkinson's.




Lucylastic -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 9:27:22 PM)

see what I mean?

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease/




tj444 -> RE: Most reasoning people are coalescing around the idea that Trump is the worst option (9/12/2016 9:31:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
While the campaign is being quiet(trumps) sorta, the extreme RW press are having a field day with it.
check out rush, or WND Or Breitbart, and Info wars.
Id like to see a cite, but I doubt its forthcoming from a legit source.

But from what I have read on infowars, she is dead and ABC announced it and retracted it...and shehas a body double walking around..(from the comment section)

http://www.infowars.com/this-video-will-cost-hillary-the-election/


Christ, I watched Lou Dobbs going on and on and on about her.. I had to change the channel.. she makes one comment about half of Trump's supporters but Trump can say fucking anything and its ok, no big deal.. I look at all this shite and wonder how this country has made it this far..




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