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Termyn8or -> RE: Black Rifles Matter (9/14/2016 5:19:11 AM)
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
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What do you believe the restrictions on speech should be, if any?
As few as humanly possible, barring libel.
A libel charge is based on the statement being a lie and having undue negative consequences of the subject of that lie. This I support. I think everyone does. There is also a test of credibility, like if a little kid or someone who is mentally defective says it and has no credibility, there is generally no damage to the libeled.
Let's compare now, say someone with credibility does lie, which is misusing that credibility and it hurts someone financially. Let's take the case of the guy who owns Subway Sandwiches. What should happen to the accusers if all the allegations are proven false ? I AM NOT saying they are, but what if they were ? How many people switch to Jimmy John's ad cost him millions of dollars ? But remember this is a hypothetical situation where he is totally innocent. Actually I forgot to keep up with that case but so what, for the sake of argument assume he is totally innocent. I think those who bear false witness do deserve some punishment, but in reality many are uncollectable. Sue themm ad take everything they own and wind up with twenty grad when it cost you millions. What then ? Put them in jail ?
Then you have those who would shout "FIRE" in a crowded theater. That has been defined as a criminal act even though it goes against the first amendment. First of all people should not be such ninnies and pussies to trample one another on the sayso of one asshole. If you don't see the fire it is not close to you you don't have to kill other people to get out of there in ten seconds. Those speech limiting laws are there because of the stupidity of people.
Now, my Sysack example illustrates something. He is careful in what he says otherwise local politicians would surely have had him in court over slander or libel. They can't fucking do it because there is no case when there is no lie.
That shouting FIRE in a crowded theater thing is quite a joke IMO. Someone shouts that, why doesn't someone walk over there and spill their drink on him ? I am not afraid of fire. Back when we had backyard fires I would stand so close my pants got really hot to where the might have caught fire. When I went back to my seat to enjoy the beverage of my choice they HURT when the fabric touched my legs. People had cookouts and campfires n shit. but if someone says the word "FIRE" people just go crazy ? Maybe they should be dead. Just like the people at Walmart trampling one another over some flatscreen TVs. Nobody shouted fire there. But Walmart placed the ad, aren't they liable under the same type of statute ?
There is a joke about that type of shit.
there was a store with a big sale going on and people camped out in the parking lot to be the first in the store. One guy was trying to elbow his way through the crowd and kept on getting pushed back and told "Get to the back of the line". Eventually he said "If you don't get out of my way I can't open the store".
That is how fucking stupid people are and the thing about the FIRE/theater proves that it is not a new thing. i can't believe they survived. Well alot didn't.
So what. What kind of world do you want one full of people who can't find their ass with both hands or a world full of intelligent people who innovate and invent ? This sanctity of human life shit has to be gotten rid of. the useless braindead fucking assholes who do nothing for society but make more babies headed for prison have to fucking go.
That's the fact jack. (or whatever name you prefer)
T^T
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