jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: vincentML You see here is the difference in bold type between gun fanatics and psychiatrists. Gun fanatics, by your demonstration, heap abuse and derision on people who suffer mental illnesses while psychiatrists try to stabilize their patients and improve their quality of life. There is plenty of reason to believe that once stabilized and they remain in treatment these folks are no longer a danger. How much experience do you have with serious psychiatric conditions? Let you in on a piece of information which clearly, you are not aware of. Psychiatric drugs lose effectiveness in every patient over prolonged use. Its a proven fact. At best, a patient may be able to take any given medication for maybe five years before it loses effectiveness or in many cases, causes the condition to worsen dramatically. Then there are the side effects, some not so bad, weight gain, onset of diabetes, Tardive dyskinesia (loss of muscle control in face and hands) which will become permanent if the medication is continued, then there are the ones that are really bad, kidney function impairment, liver impairment, are the least of these. And these are not 'possible' side effects, they are pretty much a sure thing with prolonged use. Of course, lets not forget the Columbine shooting. One of those two individuals was taking zoloft as prescribed, the autopsy even showed a therapeutic level in his blood. And that particular person had been on the drug for a long enough time to be considered 'stable.' The world saw just how stable he was. And I am speaking from first hand experience, my sister is bipolar. In the last seven years since her diagnosis, she has been switched to a total of 8 different medications, none of which are effective for very long. After voicing my concerns to the psychiatrist who is supervising her treatment, he told me everything that I just relayed to you. Then there are the disorders that cannot be treated with medications of any kind. Psychotic Personality disorder is a good example. There are a number of anti psychotic medications, but none of them are 100% effective. Add to that that a person with this disorder may not even show symptoms at all until something triggers a psychotic break. A person with this disorder actually can function in society and no one ever know the truth, some of the most successful business tycoons fall into this category. Of course, the other end of the spectrum are typically serial killers or generally serial criminals with a tendency toward violent crimes. The range of disorders that often manifests in violent outbursts, acts or even murder and mass shootings are too numerous to mention, and there is no magic bullet in treating them. Yet the general public believes the Madison Avenue driven commercials that claim there are. Pharmaceutical companies make billions hyping the cure all anti depressant. However, you may find this interesting. Then there the postal workers that gave rise to the term 'going postal' many of whom were on the wonder drug prozac. A drug later to be determined to cause violent outbursts among a good percentage of the people taking it. Let us no forget that in almost all cases of mass shootings, the shooter was found to be diagnosed with having a mental condition linked to violent outbursts or taking medications known to cause mania, hypomania, amnesia, manic reaction, psychotic reactions, delirium, delusions, hallucinations, hostility, psychosis and homicidal ideation. What is worse is the simple fact that mental health professionals prescribe these drugs long term for short term problems. This in and of itself presents a new problem, a person who had a temporary mental condition, maybe as simple as traumatic loss induced depression is put on medication that in and of itself can cause the very problem that he or she sought to avoid in the first place. Everyone blasted Tom Cruise for his tirade about anti depressants on the today show. The thing is he was right, and has been proven right a number of times. The sad fact is that the US is the most overly medicated country when it comes to these drugs on the planet. I am not demonizing, abusing or deriding people with these problems, I am, from hard earned experience speaking to the point. In point of fact, I am probably more aware of treatment research for many disorders linked to some of the very problems that would make a person ineligible to purchase a gun. There are at least two courses of research that might actually be on track for a cure for some of the problems, since most of the problems stem from a chemical imbalance in the brain, or lowered function of the brain centers that inhibit psychotic or violent behavior. The problem with the drug treatments is that they try to kick start the part of the brain not working, but it is like using a cast iron skillet to kill a fly on a glass window. You will kill the fly, but the window is not going to be doing so good. However, research has shown that in many cases, directly targeting the affected area of the brain will put an end to the problem without the harmful or violent side effects. Funny thing is that it is based on Chinese acupuncture therapy dating back a couple of thousand years. These same researchers have also discovered that brain cells can be healed and regrown, contrary to the old belief that once damaged the brain is forever impaired. And to be honest, should a person be proven to be stabilized, and has been for a period of time without incident, I would actually agree that person's right to purchase a firearm should be restored. The reason being, as I pointed out earlier, in more situations than not, it is a temporary problem that needs a short term treatment. I also advocate the lifting of a drivers license suspension for someone who has remained sober for a period of at least two years. A life time suspension is bullshit.
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Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think? You cannot control who comes into your life, but you can control which airlock you throw them out of. Paranoid Paramilitary Gun Loving Conspiracy Theorist AND EQUAL OPPORTUNI
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