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So what if their arguments are (in your view) stupid? Why get so angry about it? Invective doesn't mean I'm angry, it usually means I'm irritated.
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What are you here for, to convince people of your view, or make them so pissed off with you that they get even more entrenched in their opinions? Oh stop. Nobody here has ever modified their view based on logic. There's a group of old-timers whose one-true-wayism sees them attempt to hold court on practically every thread and find some way of invariably denouncing anyone who isn't part of their clique. They act like a group of school bullies, then lose their shit because someone gives them the same treatment they're too gutless to dish out without a group behind them.
It's like a hive mind of stupidity and is the classic leftist collectivist approach to debate.
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And yes, I'm afraid you *do* descend into those ad hominems. I've lost count of the number of times you've flown off into a fury because of where you assume someone's coming from. Oh nonsense. Most people here wear their allegiances on their fucking signature for fuck's sake and are incapable of expressing an original thought without group approval. I'm pretty damn sure I know where people are coming from.
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It really is nutty at times, too - you slander the whole of the Left frequently, for instance, without apparently noticing that certain of your views are considered firmly of the Left (your views on gun control in the USA, for instance). Ye Gods, I TOLD you that your primitive model of sticking anyone on a right/left axis was a lazy approach to political thought, but you didn't fucking listen. I am WELL AWARE that some of my views align with the consensus view on the left, however in the case of gun control this is simply the intersection of reasoned thought (on my part) with the left's tendency toward authoritarian control of society in all its aspects.
As I have repeatedly tried to explain to you - my thoughts on issues are based upon scientific foundations and reason. For example, I despise the identity politics, safe spaces and totalitarian censorship of the left because it represents an undermining of democratic principles and is a real danger to the future of democracy. (The Chinese have a saying, "A democracy is the longest road between two dictatorships". The Stalinist tendencies of the Left - particularly the regressive left - exemplify this.) No doubt, the Right agrees with me.
Contrariwise, I believe that free markets are an abomination and that all markets should be regulated. Regulation is necessary to bias markets in favour of consumers, without which companies will produce optimal solutions for PROFIT, not consumer BENEFIT. As an example of this, Chinese companies will happily produce products which are dangerous to consumers because they're cheaper. The recent influx of hoverboards into the USA was an example of this. All were dangerous and none were certified for safety. Not one. An absence of regulation led to danger for consumers. No doubt, the Right now thinks I'm a communist.
The Left is a hive mind of social one-up-man ship where victim-hood status is the new currency. This focus is dangerously close to the Orwellian self-monitoring population described in 1984 (the book, not the year). It is not sustainable and the lack of academic freedom (particularly on UK campuses) is grave cause for concern. There can be no doubt that what is being conducted on campuses now is indoctrination with political ideology. That is exceptionally dangerous.
The Right is a money-grubbing, corporation-worshipping selfish bunch of assholes who are all too ready to give corporations free money while complaining about single mothers, Mexicans and teachers. They're predominantly SO FUCKING STUPID that they swallow the same lies from the same politicians year after year, despite the fact that doing so never makes their lives any better. They'd rather take refuge in their prejudices than actually expose themselves to a world outside their pickup truck, their beer, their sport, their gun and their local fucking McDonalds.
BOTH groups have a tendency to avoid thinking and would rather spend their time throwing rocks at each other like a tribe of monkeys. You cleave to ideological claptrap rather than debate issues with careful thought and consideration. You focus on personalities instead of issues.
And you wonder why I'm fucking irritated? Perhaps because to me, you all look like a pack of stupid assholes. And watching the political process play out largely as a consequence of the failures of these two groups can be FUCKING depressing.
Jesus Christ, for once, it'd be novel to see both groups actually reasoning their way through an issue.
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God. You know, good old Aswad, when he was here, could convince me more of an opinion on which he and I were originally opposed in one paragraph than you've been able to do after thousands of words of your posts.
What are you trying to achieve here?
These days? Self-entertainment. Lord knows, with very few exceptions, there's a lack of real intellectual firepower here.
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