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jlf1961 -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/27/2016 10:38:58 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Nobody raised the birther issue for McCain BECAUSE he fought for America and was even Prisoner of War! Could anybody doubt his loyalty to US after what happened to him? Even if he wasn't a US citizen at birth, he certainly is a US citizen at heart! Nobody would ever wanna chase a birther issue for someone who have fought for the country and suffered for it.
Both Ted and Obama were merely lawyers, thus were questioned. And they happen to be Latino and half black. Although Ted looks white to me.
Jeez, are you brain dead or what?
The birther issue was simply put, where the fuck was Obama born.
The conspiracy is that he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.
In other words, he was not born in the UNITED STATES!
So, since you are either too fucking dense to grasp the common thread in this.
Trump maintained that Obama was born in Kenya, and even though his mother was an American Citizen, the fact he was not born in the continental United States, according to the birthers is the reason he was INELIGIBLE to be president.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada, and even though one of his parents was an American Citizen, the fact he was born outside the United States, to use the core birther argument makes him INELIGIBLE to be president.
John McCann was born in Panama, again, outside the United States, and PLEASE remember, that the birther crap started during the election between McCann and Obama and all stemmed because the birthers were saying he had not been born in the United States but Kenya, thus not eligible to be president.
The key phrase is "OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES"
Of course, Cruz and Obama have one more point in common, one of their parents was not an American Citizen at the time of their birth.
However, when that fact was pointed out as being unimportant due to the fact that any child who has one parent as an American Citizen is by US Law an American Citizen, no matter where they fuck they are born.
So then, the issue was the place of birth, since the constitution states that one of the requirements to be president is that they must be a natural born american citizen, meaning they cannot move to the US and get citizenship and become president.
Thus, these morons maintain that since Obama (according to them was born in Kenya) he could not be president.
Well, when Trump raised the issue, it was because Cruz had been born in Canada.
Which, since place of birth is the core of the argument, McCann would have been disqualified by the birther's logic since he had been born in PANAMA.
Now considering that this argument has been explained GOD KNOWS HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES SINCE OBAMA WAS FIRST ELECTED, do you grasp the one thing all three men have in common?
Let me make it easy for you since, for whatever reason, you could not figure it out yourself after it has been covered repeatedly:
Neither Cruz or McCann were born inside the continental United States
As for you maintaining the argument that Trump has been more honest than Hilary, let me point out to you the facts.
Trump's charity foundation has been used by Trump to pay legal bills stemming from Trump (himself, not the foundation) being sued.
He has denied this repeatedly even though court documents and bank records prove that this is in fact true.
He denied ever saying that Climate Change was a Chinese hoax.
His own twitter account, and 3 different interviews on FOX news prove this was a lie.
He denied instructing telling leasing managers of buildings he owns not to lease apartments to minority renters, and was sued and lost 3 FEDERAL cases because he had indeed done just that, part of the evidence used to prove it were memos written and signed by himself.
Then there is the entire Trump University scandal, which by the way, he stated that the judge hearing the case should recuse himself since he was Hispanic, after Trump made the statement on National TV that the majority of Hispanics are drug addicts, drug dealers, rapists and killers, although he did admit that there were a few 'good people' in the group.
He has repeatedly stated that he could not release his tax returns because he was being audited, and it was against the law to do so until the audit was over.
THE FUCKING IRS SAID THIS IS NOT TRUE.
Now, he cannot release his tax returns because it would upset his attorneys.
He stated that he had only filed bankruptcy twice, when in fact he (or his companies that he was the majority stock holder of) have filed bankruptcy 6 times.
He got a loan from his father in the form of his father buying over $3.5 million dollars in chips from one of Trump's Casinos, which was then termed illegal by the New Jersey agency that monitors gambling in that state.
In fact, Trump claims he only got 1 loan from his father for a total of 1 million dollars. The truth is that every time Trump was in financial trouble, his father found creative ways to help him out, many of which were later determined to be ILLEGAL.
Now back to the Kicker, Trump University.
Donald Trump claims to have no connection to the university other than his name.
Court documents obtained by the court and lawyers representing those people suing the university have already disproved that a number of times.
Then of course the simple fact that he is constantly tweeting and retweeting various conspiracy theories, suggestions that the secret service detail assigned to Hilary be disarmed after which someone should take a shot at her and see if she changes her mind about guns.\
If all of that was not enough to prove he is unfit both mentally and ethically to be president, lets look at the fact that he has repeatedly praised his supporters for roughing up (assaulting) people who have heckled him at rallies, a praised supporters who beat up a minority reporter who had attended one of his functions and asked a question that Trump did not like.
He likes the 'stop and frisk' policy even though it was declared unconstitutional (he claimed it never was)
He has blatantly made racists remarks about hispanics, african americans, muslims basically just about every non white race on the planet.
He has catastrophically lost his temper when asked about statements he made both in tweets and on camera.
Now, let me ask you a simple question.
Would you really want a guy so notoriously short tempered and impulsive in control of the 2nd largest nuclear arsenal on the planet? And remember, it is not the generals that make the call about using nukes, it is the president of the United States that is the only one that can order or stop a nuclear strike.
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