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longwayhome -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 3:14:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge I need to do something here, please bear with me. I feel I should apologize for my post last night. The combination of pain medication and something I took over the counter for a cold I fear interacted with each other and made me daft. The way I posted what I posted was not with my usual respect and dignity. I hope those involved, or those that responded to my post, can understand. I said some things I shouldn't have said and for that, I am sorry. As one of the more thoughtful posters round here, you have a lot of goodwill in the bank.

dcnovice -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 5:47:25 PM)
quote: The combination of pain medication and something I took over the counter for a cold I fear interacted with each other and made me daft. All the best for swift and sure recovery!

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 6:34:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 FR The media is soooo bias. Screaming Trump is the only liar in the debates. Good video here showing evidence that Hillary was worst. Like nobody bothered fact checking Hillary at all! The media is soooooo bias, your video is 4.20 minutes long, with hillary actually speaking for just over two minutes,(lying) when the debate was 90+ minutes. Oh by the way No body said that hillary didnt tell "lies" Not one of them, they all fact checked BOTH of them Talk about bias. its yours, own it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/27/fact-checking-the-first-clinton-trump-presidential-debate/ http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/us/politics/fact-check-debate.html http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/09/27/fact-check-first-presidential-debate/91154130/ https://www.wired.com/2016/09/millions-people-fact-checked-debate-clintons-website/ http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-first-debate/

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 6:35:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: But the part I find interesting is although you are the second one to suggest Greta shouldn't be discussing this, yet no one ever suggests the others don't. Maybe it has more to do with what you posts than where she posts it from. I suspect you are right. Nobody pulls that line on people who agree with them. oh thats the truth I cant count how many times Ive been told I have no business posting. Not once by a liberal.

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 6:36:42 PM)
one of the best and "funniest" videos to come out of the debate:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfF6chin5s

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 6:51:22 PM)
I thought this was good too A Fox News executive sent a memo to television producers and the politics team on Tuesday afternoon reminding employees that unscientific online polls "do not meet our editorial standards." Dana Blanton, the vice president of public-opinion research at Fox News, explained in the memo obtained by Business Insider that "online 'polls' like the one on Drudge, Time, etc. where people can opt-in or self-select … are really just for fun." "As most of the publications themselves clearly state, the sample obviously can't be representative of the electorate because they only reflect the views of those Internet users who have chosen to participate," Blanton wrote. As the Fox News executive pointed out, users who participate in such polls must have internet access, be online at the time of the poll, be fans of the website in question, and self-select to participate. "Another problem — we know some campaigns/groups of supporters encourage people to vote in online polls and flood the results," she wrote. "These quickie click items do not meet our editorial standards." At least three Fox News hosts cited unscientific online polls in the hours after Monday night's presidential debate to suggest Donald Trump emerged as the winner of the political showdown. Trump had come out ahead in a slew of unscientific polls, or polls in which the sample of participants did not accurately reflect the sample of viewers who watched the debate. Such polls are almost always discounted by professional pollsters and analysts. The only scientific survey conducted in the debate's immediate aftermath was the CNN/ORC instant poll, which showed that viewers thought Hillary Clinton handily defeated Trump. Respondents to a Morning Consult poll released Wednesday also said, 49% to 26%, that Clinton bested Trump in the debate. "News networks and other organizations go to great effort and rigor to conduct scientific polls — for good reason," Blanton wrote in the memo. "They know quick vote items posted on the web are nonsense, not true measures of public opinion." Blanton further pointed out that instant/snap polls "are DIFFERENT" from online polls but "can be used on air — with caution." "Fox News policy is to focus on non-partisan telephone polls (with both landlines & cellphones) that use live interviewers, and random digit-dial sampling techniques — a methodology that enables everyone an equal chance of being interviewed," Blanton said. Since the memo was issued, however, some Fox hosts have continued to cite the online polls, often failing to even note such polls were unscientific and conducted over the internet. Host Sean Hannity, who has led the charge citing the unscientific polls, continued to do so Tuesday night, after the memo went out. "You've got this list of polls, Donald Trump wins," he said during on segment. "You watch TV, Hillary Clinton wins." Brian Kilmeade, a host of "Fox & Friends," also referred to the online polls during an interview with a Trump official Wednesday morning. "The online polls show you guys won in overwhelming margins," he said, a comment for which Trump later thanked him on Twitter. A representative for Fox News noted both Hannity and Kilmeade are hosts in the network’s lineup of opinion programming. The representative also pointed out that Hannity has publicly disclosed that he has endorsed Trump. Hannity, in fact, stirred controversy last week when he participated in an official web ad for the Republican presidential nominee. A Fox News representative later told The Washington Post the person had "no knowledge" he "was participating in this" and that "he will not be doing anything along these lines for the remainder of the election." Trump frequently touted online polls in the aftermath of the GOP debates to argue that he won. After the Monday face-off with Clinton, he continued the pattern, repeatedly touting polls that supporters had flooded to designate him the winner. Not only were those polls contrary to the scientific surveys conducted, but focus groups also overwhelmingly selected Clinton as the debate winner. http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-online-debate-polls-trump-drudge-2016-9

Greta75 -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 7:40:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic No body said that hillary didnt tell "lies" Not one of them, they all fact checked BOTH of them Talk about bias. its yours, own it. But nobody is making as much of a big deal of Hillary lies at all. There is zero focus on it. That's the bias.

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 7:49:08 PM)
you are wrong....the information out there proves you wrong.

Lordandmaster -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 8:22:18 PM)
That's preposterous. You hear more about her "damned e-mails" than about her stance on any of the issues. quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 But nobody is making as much of a big deal of Hillary lies at all. There is zero focus on it. That's the bias.

Greta75 -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/28/2016 8:45:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster That's preposterous. You hear more about her "damned e-mails" than about her stance on any of the issues. Only the emails because the FBI director came out and outright pretty much said she was lying. But only the emails. Trump gets pin down for every single thing. And the Iraq one was the most ridiculous. Because his answer to Howard Stern is not even a solid, "Yes! We should invade Iraq." He simply said, "I guess so." That to me sounds like a man who is not 100% for Iraq. This is Trump, if he truly believes in something, he would never say, "I guess so."

WhoreMods -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 4:56:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic No body said that hillary didnt tell "lies" Not one of them, they all fact checked BOTH of them Talk about bias. its yours, own it. But nobody is making as much of a big deal of Hillary lies at all. There is zero focus on it. That's the bias. Apart from her rival candidate and his following, the "liberal controlled" media, Johnson's supporters and the other third party factions, and the non-circus peanut wing of the Republicans, you mean? Nope, not single one word about Clinton being a liar among the whole of that lot.

thompsonx -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 5:23:04 AM)
ORIGINAL: thishereboi Actually in her case it was stick with the asshole despite the fact that he's a pig because she was afraid a divorce would screw up her political ambitions. The corrolary here would be that trump felt that multiple divorces would increase his chances for election. Hillary's husband cheats on her and you feel he is a pig. Trump cheats on his wives and you don't label him a pig??? But yea lets pretend we were not around back when she admitted that and believe she stayed because of some commitment to the jerk. English is not your primary language is it? Why don't you get a grown up to translate the gibberrish you just posted into english.

Lordandmaster -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 8:02:59 AM)
Maybe you're not getting the same news over there, because what I've seen is that he GETS AWAY with everything. He settles lawsuits with funds from his charitable organizations (twice)--and gets away with it. He makes an illegal donation to the Florida Attorney General's election campaign in order to get her to drop charges against Trump University--and gets away with it. Seriously, what has he ever been "pinned down" for? quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 Trump gets pin down for every single thing.

WickedsDesire -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 9:12:50 AM)
Gauge I never saw anything wrong with what you said. Occasionally if I am out of order I will unreservedly apologize. I may also add in a better answer. But your posts, I have seen a few, are often very good. I tend to notice only those languishing under 50% or those with a constant stream of garbage. If it makes you feel better we could tar and feather you or sell you for cake/shoe money do you have a preference? Ah delicious pain medication can make me somewhat woozy and overly cryptic and never have a glass of Chardonnay with it. On a serious note stronger pain medication dear readers do not take it all the time

WhoreMods -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 10:33:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Seriously, what has he ever been "pinned down" for? Talking like a special needs kid who's too stupid to even try to construct a believable lie when they're denying something? That seems to be what Greta's moaning that people pointing it out is picking unfairly on the poor orange baby...

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 11:15:59 AM)
Immediately complaining that theres a conspiracy theory that his mic was defective...I heard every sniff, grunt, interruption, lie and drop of bullshit loud and clear. Doubling down on his attack on the latina winner of his pageant, oh and that he was being nice and "has a heart" for not mentioning what he was going to mention, because he didnt want to hurt chelsea...what utter fabrication, WHat a twunt. WHats funnier, the insta polls showed he won... They did, but they were not accurate by any meaning of the word, in ANY dictionary. Biggest voter fraud ever found, LOL(no , Im not being "serious")

WhoreMods -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 11:19:31 AM)
Speaking of voter fraud, I wonder if the Republicans will go to the electoral college and the supreme court to disallow a couple of States' votes if Clinton beats the lying little cockwomble in a couple of months' time?

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 11:37:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic No body said that hillary didnt tell "lies" Not one of them, they all fact checked BOTH of them Talk about bias. its yours, own it. But nobody is making as much of a big deal of Hillary lies at all. There is zero focus on it. That's the bias. Apart from her rival candidate and his following, the "liberal controlled" media, Johnson's supporters and the other third party factions, and the non-circus peanut wing of the Republicans, you mean? Nope, not single one word about Clinton being a liar among the whole of that lot. I felt so bad for Gary Johnson, last night with his brain fart over not being able to respond with his favourite world leader... I mean lets be fair, there isnt a lot of happy people anywhere, I can only think of two and I am extremely biased. Admittedly I dont know much about so many of them, but you would think he or she would stand out. He was very passionate and upset during the interview, especially over his Aleppo flub, but in my nsho..he isnt ready.

Lucylastic -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 11:40:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Speaking of voter fraud, I wonder if the Republicans will go to the electoral college and the supreme court to disallow a couple of States' votes if Clinton beats the lying little cockwomble in a couple of months' time? Well they actually passed a bill for flint FINALLY but of course, lol they tried to deligitmize obama, they will keep on their bullshit with Clinton. My wonder is if the orange anus wins, if the dems will do the same[;)]

igor2003 -> RE: 1st Presidential Debate (9/29/2016 11:42:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice FR Dan Savage: "Trump then told CNN he's probably going to bring up these not-so-nice things about Bill Clinton at the next debate." DS then offers his thoughts on how HRC might respond: http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/09/27/24584577/unsolicited-advice-for-hillary-clinton Yours truly might add: "Unlike you, Donald, I take the till death do us part promise in my marital vows very seriously." Also "You chose to break up a family--twice. I chose not to, opting instead to honor my commitment and do the best I could by my child and my family. For many of us across America, that's called traditional marriage and family values." Actually in her case it was stick with the asshole despite the fact that he's a pig because she was afraid a divorce would screw up her political ambitions. But yea lets pretend we were not around back when she admitted that and believe she stayed because of some commitment to the jerk. Here we are on a website where polyamory and open marriages are just seen as "par for the course" for some people. No criticism at all. But does anyone stop to consider that maybe, just maybe, the Clinton's might have something similar? No, people just want to point fingers and criticize people in politics. When I vote for a president I am voting on what that person can do for the country. I don't give a shit about their private lives.

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