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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 6:43:37 AM

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A $200 bang stick will take care of a great white with the same efficiency that a flint pointed spear used to fell Mastodons.

The pygmies of central africa take elephants with sharp sticks their opinion is that only pussies need a stone point.

One of the primary methods of hunting animals in the distant past was to run the fucker down. Human beings sweat efficiently and are capable of long, sustained pursuits, whereas animals with fur suffer from heat exhaustion relatively quickly.

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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 7:19:55 AM

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I love how people call a peer reviewed article psuedo science

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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 8:12:52 AM

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Humans are predators. the best predator nature ever came up with.

Yes, and that's a primary reason why you're alive today. Top of the fucking food chain.

That is debatable. First of all without tools we would be prey for lions, tigers, bears, big wolves and a few other animals. Also there are blood sucking insects, mosquitoes, bedbugs and a few others. There are times of the year I can't go outside because they seem to like my blood so much. And don't forget sharks but they might not count because we do not live in water.

Guns and big knives, tools we have invented are what puts us at the apparent top of the food chain.

I wonder now how a Man who is very skilled and fast with a knife would fare against a lion or tiger. Think someone like Bruce Li or someone like that. Probably quite a few people could get rid of a wolf with a big knife, but those big cats are incredibly fast.

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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 8:20:15 AM

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" A $200 bang stick will take care of a great white with the same efficiency that a flint pointed spear used to fell Mastodons.

Those don't work very well underwater. Or is that your point? (Not sure what you're getting at with the mastodon thing: all sorts of traps and methods have been suggested that might have been used to kill the things back in the day, rather than just charging them with spears...)
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Spears work much better underwater because of their shape. But nothing really works all that well unless YOU are under the water as well because of diffraction. It is a rare skill to be able to shoot or even stab something under the water from above the water. The only other way to avoid the effects of diffraction is to be directly over the target, which unfortunately moves.

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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 8:37:09 AM

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This is fucking pseudo-science.

I also have that impression. The methodology seems flawed. How can the researchers distinguish between fatalities and murders? A lot of judgments there without benefit of coroners' reports.

Scientists analyzed more than one thousand previous studies that referred to over one thousand different mammal species. They particularly investigated causes of death. Then, the researchers compared the number of fatalities related to murder.

This is a study of studies so there are layers of judgments involved. Not very scientific.

It is hard enough to nail down the genetic causes of physical illnesses let alone of human behaviors. There is a big early experiential component in human behaviors.

Nope. I don't buy the premise of this thread.

I don't buy anything, but there is a point here. People kill people. There have been guns for hundreds of years and only now it has seemed like more of them are used to kill humans, rather than hunt or whatever. Society caused that.

But I bet murders are actually underreported. for one, if they find you in a dumpster with a 9mm. hole in the back of your head it is pretty much assumed to be murder. But of all the people who die, how many were possibly poisoned ? That is for the coroner to determine, he finds poison then he writes down the word "murder" on the paperwork o checks a little square box. What's more he has to find sufficient poison to have caused the death, if your olady is poisoning you slowly because she caught you cheating with her sister, but instead you get run over by a truck, is it a murder ?

And then there are many cases where there is simply not enough suspicion to bother the coroner.

So if they find you with your head cut off or a hole in the head it goes down as a murder. What's more, what alot of people don't know is that half of those go unsolved. Part of it is they really don't care but part of it is also that sometimes they simply have nothing to go on. you catch your enemy in a dark alley and use an expanding bullet so there is no ballistics and there are no witnesses... And you never called the police and made a paper trail. They don't even know you knew each other. How do they find you ? Smart people never kill a "known associate". I am not a murderer but I know(n) a couple.

But the concept of killing does not bother me one bit. Though I would refuse to go to some other People's country and do it, and it would have to be justified, I would not be dead like the gas/beer station because he did not shot to kill.

We live by killing anyway. Even a vegetarian killed those poor defenseless plants. That is the way life is. And there are plenty off places where it is kill or be killed. One of the reasons I have no plans to go to Chicago and a few other places.

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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 8:44:08 AM

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A $200 bang stick will take care of a great white with the same efficiency that a flint pointed spear used to fell Mastodons.

The pygmies of central africa take elephants with sharp sticks their opinion is that only pussies need a stone point.

That indicates it is skill and/or intellect. They need to know where to stick the stick or else that elephant will fuck them up good.

a stone point would probably inhibit their breaking through the skin and all the tissue to get to the vital areas. Which is another thing, a long time ago there was probably one laying dead of natural causes and they dissected it and found those vital areas. Just like if you go bear hunting, you better hit that fucker just right or else. You don't shoot them in the ass and expect them to run away.

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RE: The human species and violence - 10/3/2016 8:48:21 AM

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"I don't necessarily doubt that we might have a predisposition towards violence, I just don't think this study is conclusive."

No study of this subject will ever be conclusive until they finally push the button.

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