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The despicable part is not the sharp business practices (We'll ignore the blatant theft from workers and businesses he just doesn't pay because his lawyers can tie them up in court till they go bankrupt) as far as taxes, it's the ten times BBC and others (so far) have documented Wee Paws' Tax Shaming others for less egregious (or even fanciful/ 'possible') tax dodges. If it disqualified them from public life, sauce for the gander?

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Any bets on how much of a sweat his lawyers work up keeping him out of prison in NY and Federal court once the tax returns come out and people who were there start pointing out fraud?

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Forbes reports Donald Trump is worth $4.1 billion...

How long ago did Forbes report that? Isn't that figure at least a couple of years out of date now?

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Anyone who still has some belief in The Mop's business skills and talents ought to read this piece, which reviews Trump's performance managing his Atlantic City casinos relative to the performance of other Atlantic City casinos at the same time.


"The average headcount at Trump’s Atlantic City casinos declined by 50 percent during the period, from 4,926 employees in 1997 to 2,463 in 2010, for a mean loss of 2,463 per location. The average non-Trump casino, by contrast, lost 35 percent of its employees, dropping from 4,468 to 2,921 for a loss of 1,547 jobs. In other words, Trump lost an average of about 900 more employees per casino than his competitors, a 37 percent difference.
As for their financial performance, average revenues for Trump’s casinos fell 42 percent, from US$377 million in 1999 to $220 million in 2010. Revenue at the average non-Trump casino, by contrast, declined 27 percent in the same period, from $394 million to $286 million. While the entire Atlantic City casino industry suffered as neighboring states like Pennsylvania and Connecticut eased gambling laws, Trump’s performed significantly worse, as their revenue on average fell $50 million per casino more than his rivals’ – or a third more.
These findings are statistically significant, meaning that the Trump casinos’ poor performance was not random. It had something specifically to do with how they were run. [....] His casinos were not the “best” and not even “average” – they were the worst.
Trump did not get rich in Atlantic City because the casinos were profitable in this period. Instead, his wealth came in part from causing the casinos to borrow heavily and then slashing that debt in Chapter 11 bankruptcy."
http://theconversation.com/can-trump-create-millions-of-jobs-dont-bet-on-it-66104

Far from being a business 'genius' as Trump would have us believe, it seems much of his wealth was obtained by manipulating the bankruptcy laws to stiff lenders, stock holders, goods and service suppliers and employees, anyone who had a business relationship with Trump at the time. This is the story of a cheap nasty conman, not a financial or business 'genius'.

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His base hate the poor

That's a huge sweeping generalization.

its worse than that. its an entirely self-serving and embarrassing hyper-partisan delusion.

How about this one?
His base is comprised of people of below average intelligence who believe every word he says.

you have absolutely no way of knowing that, so, much like you want to say "REEAAAD," im going to say "THINNNNNNNK."

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WHy are you focussing on business, when DJT personal tax loss was almost a billion. NOT his company
The forms are for RESIDENT INCOME TAX
Not part of his Business taxes. Personal.

With all due respect, Lucy, I think you're really missing my point. Business or personal doesn't matter. The amount doesn't matter. The fact that the guy even has a billion dollars to lose points to some level of success even if nobody wants to admit it. Everyone is freaking out because the guy took a long-term write off over a huge loss. My point is that in the grand scheme, it's meaningless. Look around you. It's happening everywhere all the time. Like I said, I've done the very same thing. There's absolutely nothing unique about it except the fact that it happened 20 years ago to a wealthy guy who's now running for president.

BUT...if you really want to focus on the fact that it was personal instead of business finances, then frankly, I don't see where it's really anyone's business how much he lost. It wouldn't have affected anyone but him anyway. Have you ever made a bad financial decision before...large or small? Do you think it made you a bad person because of it? Is it something you would repeat?

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Depends on how much he inherited.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

His base hate the poor

That's a huge sweeping generalization.

its worse than that. its an entirely self-serving and embarrassing hyper-partisan delusion.

How about this one?
His base is comprised of people of below average intelligence who believe every word he says.

you have absolutely no way of knowing that, so, much like you want to say "REEAAAD," im going to say "THINNNNNNNK."

I work with a lot of Trump supporters.
Not a damn one of them are of anything resembling well above average intelligence and most well below.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

His base hate the poor

That's a huge sweeping generalization.

its worse than that. its an entirely self-serving and embarrassing hyper-partisan delusion.

How about this one?
His base is comprised of people of below average intelligence who believe every word he says.

you have absolutely no way of knowing that, so, much like you want to say "REEAAAD," im going to say "THINNNNNNNK."

I work with a lot of Trump supporters.
Not a damn one of them are of anything resembling well above average intelligence and most well below.

sorry, youre still in the same little methodological roadblock--you cannot get to what you said prior, but why you just said here.

and its sadly ironic too given youre criticizing his supporters intelligence.

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see my point above about "sadly ironic"

oh, and just for kicks---feel invited to tell our reading audience exactly HOW my responses, which you deemed as evidence of "ignorance," are indeed so.

I trust a fair number of people, to whom you are nothing but a gadfly, will enjoy seeing you fail.