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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43 [Edited] Trump? In a diplomatic briefing recently, he kept asking about Middle Eastern military and political conflicts, "We have nuclear weapons, why don't we use them?" Re-asked twice after people tried to explain why we probably didn't want to glass over whole countries. And people wonder why many Trump frightens many non-Americans to death? How many years after millions of people of all nationalities dying across Europe and Asia does it take for people to be unable to imagine the scale of the tragedy? It seems we have the answer. I know someone would probably stop them actually doing it, but between Trump and Putin, if someone gets an itchy trigger finger, the millions of US dead aint going to be overseas. I want to see the death certificates or else I will have to assume like so many on the left, you just can't help but lie about things. You are not seriously doubting that there were millions of military deaths in both World Wars before you even consider the effects of famine, disease and crimes against humanity? What conflict did you think I was talking about? Incidentally there have been millions of deaths since the end of WW2 as well. Just think Korea, Vietnam, Iran/Iraq, the partition of India and related conflicts, Angola, Nigeria, Sudan and the former Yugoslavia. There's a few million deaths in there without pushing the bounds of controversy, although nothing quite on the epic scales of the two World Wars. And that's without the highly disputed death tolls in the Iraq Wars and Afghanistan. I am posting these figures only because a statement like that cannot be allowed to stand. The exact numbers of dead in the world wars is not relevant to this thread. However......... The total military deaths in WW2 were in the region of 20 million, over half of which was accounted for by Russia (well over 8 million) and China (over 3 million), with over 2 million Japanese deaths. The rest were largely European with the Germans taking the brunt of those at over 4 million and the US and UK at around 400,000 each. Hungary, Yugoslavia, Romania, Poland and Italy were all closer to 300,000. In WW1 there were around 8 million combat deaths, concentrated in France (1.2 million), British Empire (1 million), Germany (2 million), Austrian Empire (1 million) and Russian Empire (almost 2 million). These are the lower end estimates. Hell they could be wrong by 50% and my point still stands. I have not included genocide and war crimes. These deaths are very important but if I quote any figures I will only provide a platform for Holocaust denial, and that could go on pointlessly for page after page.. Anyway the point is that throwing nuclear weapons around is likely to cause a major war. And that's not a good thing because nobody had much fun last time we had a couple of really big wars, on account of the millions who died. If you want to disagree with me at least make some argument about why Trump talking about using nuclear weapons shouldn't make the rest of the world nervous, and how he isn't going to risk a major war by using nukes as a way of resolving local conflicts.
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