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It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:29:51 AM   
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I've read that men could view 50 female profiles, who are all within age and distance range, and be attracted to most all and send out emails. A woman could look at 50 male profiles, who are all within age and distance range, and not be attracted to any of them. I've also read that even though an attractive female could be hounded by 100's of men, she may not be attracted to any of them. I've read posts on this site saying the same thing. Even attractive women have a hard time meeting men because she may not be attracted to anyone who is "hitting" on her.

However, at the BDSM club I go to in Los Angeles, this just isn't true. It seems like most of the women are in relationships. The attractive women will only talk to attractive men and will snub anyone else. This is also true at the college I go to. Attractive women don't seem to have any problem meeting men and getting into relationships.

Does anyone else see the discrepancy between what research and posts say and real life?

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:36:21 AM   
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Attractive women have no trouble getting attention either here or in nightclubs.

Here though, men who would never dream of approaching an attractive woman in a nightclub will send dick pics and "kneel bitch" emails to any and every attractive woman they see.

There is no discrepancy.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:40:07 AM   
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Um, OP, those things don't contradict themselves. I'm not sure where you are seeing a conflict.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:46:16 AM   
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Um, OP, those things don't contradict themselves. I'm not sure where you are seeing a conflict.



They are saying that women, including attractive women, have a very difficult time finding a "significant other."

However, at the BDSM club and college that I go to, this doesn't seem to be the case. Most of the women are in relationships. Many attractive women will only talk to attractive men and snub all others. They are all in relationships with attractive men. If their "significant other" died they would soon be in another relationship.

That's the contradiction.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:53:20 AM   
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Um, OP, those things don't contradict themselves. I'm not sure where you are seeing a conflict.



They are saying that women, including attractive women, have a very difficult time finding a "significant other."

However, at the BDSM club and college that I go to, this doesn't seem to be the case. Most of the women are in relationships. Many attractive women will only talk to attractive men and snub all others. They are all in relationships with attractive men. If their "significant other" died they would soon be in another relationship.

That's the contradiction.

No, they are saying attractive women have a ton of options and that translates to having the luxury of being choosy. There is no discrepancy between the examples given.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:56:16 AM   
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"They say" yeah
no, they may say, but is it factual? usuallynot so much


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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 8:57:54 AM   
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Also being in a relationship makes it safer and easier to go out in public. The sample sizes and population segments you are comparing
(Large online group to much smaller select bdsm club going group) are too different to draw any accurate or reliable conclusions. As an Anthropologist and statistician, conflating two subsets then trying to draw a correlation between those disparate sample groups is a huge pet peeve of mine.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 10:24:32 AM   
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I've read that men could view 50 female profiles, who are all within age and distance range, and be attracted to most all and send out emails. A woman could look at 50 male profiles, who are all within age and distance range, and not be attracted to any of them. I've also read that even though an attractive female could be hounded by 100's of men, she may not be attracted to any of them. I've read posts on this site saying the same thing. Even attractive women have a hard time meeting men because she may not be attracted to anyone who is "hitting" on her.

Not terribly sure that I agree with attractive women having a hard time meeting men unless they are going by the *quality* of men that are often found on sites and most men fish with the wrong bait. I'll explain that.

The reason the guy views 50 female profiles and be attracted to most of them is because (generally) men are visual. They see the picture, think the woman is attractive, and that's enough to prompt his interest. Women, on the other hand, (again, generally) are more attracted to mental and emotional connection. When that's lacking, the physical appearance doesn't matter as much. They want the guy that they feel is actually engaging with them. Let's face it. Kind of hard to do from a profile alone. Until the interaction happens where both people are connecting, that's absent for the woman.

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However, at the BDSM club I go to in Los Angeles, this just isn't true. It seems like most of the women are in relationships. The attractive women will only talk to attractive men and will snub anyone else. This is also true at the college I go to. Attractive women don't seem to have any problem meeting men and getting into relationships.

First things first. It happens to be my personal opinion that attractive women don't NEED the internet to find partners. (This is also a contributing factor on sites like this why there are fewer women on it than men.) They might use it for convenience or because they aren't interested in kink clubs or whatever but most of them don't really need it. I know it's a shock but dating really was a thing before the internet came along.

The kink club is going to be different than the internet. When couples go to the kink club, they are doing it for something that isn't at home. It might be the want to dress for an event, the social aspect, kink furniture or suspension points that they don't have at home, an evening away from the UMs that are at home... Whatever their reason. They go and know that they have a person to play with if they want to.

Single, attractive women who happen to be rope bunnies have no problem finding play partners. They just plain look good in rope, so male tops interested in rope are always wanting to scene with them. Female tops don't tend to have a problem, either. Particularly if they are good tops and folks at the club know them fairly well.

Single people going to the kink club, more often than not, are going to interact with the people who have something to do with why they went to the club in the first place. I think snubbing is a bad word for it because what they want from their night out is just as important to them as the reason you went to the kink club is important to you. You just may not be involved in that interest according to them, so they are going to prioritize their time related to why they went in the first place.

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Does anyone else see the discrepancy between what research and posts say and real life?

Not really because you are trying to compare apples and oranges. There's a lot of white noise on sites like this. Read any of the threads you'll ever find regarding emails from men that are horrible, lack effort, want instant gratification, and the stuff that most women are going to reject.

Research may say it but because I do have some interaction with some people in your age group in the local kink community, most of them that I know are dating and they aren't having difficulty doing it.



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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 10:41:18 AM   
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@ OP

Just because you see two people in a relationship doesn't mean it's a good quality relationship. A quality relationship is really hard to find - it doesn't matter if the woman is pretty or not.
You said that if a pretty woman's "significant other" died she could easily get into another one. But that doesn't mean it's a good quality relationship.
There is a lot of bad relationships that people stay in for one reason or another.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 11:37:46 AM   
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"Women, on the other hand, (again, generally) are more attracted to mental and emotional connection. When that's lacking, the physical appearance doesn't matter as much. They want the guy that they feel is actually engaging with them."

I guess most handsome men offer a mental and emotional connection.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 11:52:33 AM   
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I guess most handsome men offer a mental and emotional connection.


If your idea of "handsome" is "looks like a nice guy who is fun to hang with" and "doesn't look like a creep", then, yes. indubitably.
But understand also that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". They most likely are not looking at the same things you are.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 12:13:14 PM   
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@ OP

If a man, or woman, is hooking up with someone just because they are physically attractive, that's shallow. But that's their right. There is nothing wrong with being shallow. You know most people are so self-absorbed and self-centered that they can't see beyond their own nose. Handsome men and attractive women aren't immune to this. My older brother went to a Philippine dating site and he got all these young and beautiful women wanting to marry him. So he hooked up with the most beautiful of them all, in his opinion. I thought she was selfish and was only looking out for herself. But her beauty blurred all of her short comings. I think that if a person hooks up with a handsome man or beautiful woman, they are willing to put up with a lot of crap from that person.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 12:14:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WMDom26CA

"Women, on the other hand, (again, generally) are more attracted to mental and emotional connection. When that's lacking, the physical appearance doesn't matter as much. They want the guy that they feel is actually engaging with them."

I guess most handsome men offer a mental and emotional connection.


I'm guessing you don't think you are handsome or you are experiencing rejection from women you are attracted to and are looking for a reason why you are striking out.

It's no secret humans can be shallow. Learn to deal with it. Give the less physically attractive girl a chance and maybe surprise yourself with how much you end up liking her, or keep chasing after the shallow Uber hot babes and wallow in self pity. Your call.

P.s. you seem pretty attractive based on your profile pic, so if this OP was inspired by your personal non success, maybe just maybe it's your approach or those you choose to spend your efforts approaching that is the problem and not the level of attractiveness of the parties involved......just something to think about. Especially since attractiveness is highly subjective.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 12:28:01 PM   
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OP - my first dom was an old coot. He was balding, had an odd gray pony tail and wore glasses that were 20 years out of date - as were his clothes.
Objectively he was not a standardly attractive man.

But oh my god - he was the most dominant man I have ever met. He knew what he wanted and how he wanted it, and boy, did he get it!

For the average female, attractiveness is not a measure of what we look for in a man, therefore, every man who thinks he isn't a 10 has a shot at any woman. Maybe not a great shot, but definitely a shot. You just have to have something she wants. And with my dom I wanted someone who knew what he wanted and was very dominant. It was a match made in heaven! lol.

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 1:43:02 PM   
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Most of the women are in relationships.


Well, here's two facts:

1) Women typically don't go to BDSM clubs alone. They A) typically go to play, which means that they're going to play with someone they know and B) get treated like fresh meat if they don't go with a partner. (When I was single a group of female friends and myself would go to the Lair and hang out on the patio to socialize. Some of the behavior from some of the guys was beyond reprehensible and caused us to stop going as singles)

2) You don't know how many many frogs she had to kiss to get to that relationship.

Being attractive doesn't make it harder to get into a relationship, it makes it harder to find a good relationship.


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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 2:01:35 PM   
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And I'm having flashbacks to this thread:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4875231/mpage_1/tm.htm

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 2:28:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

And I'm having flashbacks to this thread:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4875231/mpage_1/tm.htm

That thread made me feel icky.......😟

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 2:53:10 PM   
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I remember that thread, boy was it stupid

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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 3:57:56 PM   
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Single people going to the kink club, more often than not, are going to interact with the people who have something to do with why they went to the club in the first place. I think snubbing is a bad word for it because what they want from their night out is just as important to them as the reason you went to the kink club is important to you. You just may not be involved in that interest according to them, so they are going to prioritize their time related to why they went in the first place.





And expounding on that, I was never interested in meeting someone at the club. It's too sexually charged to be a neutral meeting point, it's starts it off at a way too intimate point. Plus I was never the type that would play with play with someone I don't know. The impression is very HNG-ish when some guy comes over to you with a rolling suitcase full of every toy he owns and wants to "talk".




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RE: It Seems Research Is Different Than Real Life? - 10/4/2016 4:04:34 PM   
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Op seems you are talking about playing fields and in the end everyone has parameters that limit who eneters that playing field. They research shows that to be pretty small for most women but larger for men. The fact is, women have more of a tendency to enter into relationships than men on average. So it's not surprising you'd see more attached women than not at clubs and the like. Also, msny time single women bring men friends to clubs so they don't get hit on all the time.

More than likely you aren't gathering the same data as research because the research more than likely has a larger source on which it gets its mean numbers from.

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