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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 2:11:34 AM   
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Seen on social media: "So now the Republicans know what it's like to be forced to carry a candidate to full term ... "

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 2:22:06 AM   
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Yep, I saw that. Gave me a good chortle, it did. ;)

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 2:22:43 AM   
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"So now the Republicans know what it's like to be forced to carry a candidate to full term ... "

Humorous.

Different way of looking at it to consider that situation now being in its third trimester.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 2:42:30 AM   
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REAL MEN DO TALK like this


We don't, ohthat1percent. We get randy and lewd amongst ourselves, but very few of us talk in such a way that we look like narcissists who are drunk on our power. There's a very clear qualitative difference. To turn this into yet another example of 'Hey, while other men are mealy-mouthed, Trump tells it like it is!' is a desperate reach on behalf of his supporters. He isn't a 'real man'. He's a real arse.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 3:06:58 AM   
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The sort of guys we made a point of avoiding after first experience, you mean.

There's a difference between randy humor and full-on nastiness.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 3:11:57 AM   
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The sort of guys we made a point of avoiding after first experience, you mean.



Yep. The sort of man who makes you shudder and think, 'this man is not the full ticket'.


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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 8:15:12 AM   
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"‘Voice’ Star Meghan Linsey Speaks Out About Sexual Harassment in Frank, Trump-Inspired Facebook Post
Yahoo Music’s Reality Rocks is re-running Linsey’s shocking post, which originally appeared on her private, personal Facebook profile, with her express permission.
News flash: "Has-been reality show contestant who hasn't had attention in a while relates story about anonymous man doing terrible things. Expects to bask in spotlight for at least a week."

Five bucks says she's making it up. Every. Last. Detail.


and that is why so few women (as well as children & men) who have been raped or sexually assaulted report the rape/assault.. cuz people like you will automatically say she is lying.. rape/assault is bad enough, having to make that public with the low conviction rate, re-living the rape/assault in court, humiliation, insults, disbelief by people like you, possible physical/death threats, etc is why they dont..

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 8:17:07 AM   
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The sort of guys we made a point of avoiding after first experience, you mean.

There's a difference between randy humor and full-on nastiness.


one person's randy humor is another person's full-on nastiness..

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:16:23 AM   
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and that is why so few women (as well as children & men) who have been raped or sexually assaulted report the rape/assault.. cuz people like you will automatically say she is lying.. rape/assault is bad enough, having to make that public with the low conviction rate, re-living the rape/assault in court, humiliation, insults, disbelief by people like you, possible physical/death threats, etc is why they dont..
There's a difference between someone reporting a crime which will result in criminal charges versus making a claim about an anonymous individual which can't be verified.

She's not "speaking out" unless she names names. If she's not naming names, then she's whoring for attention.


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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:18:17 AM   
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REAL MEN DO TALK like this


We don't, ohthat1percent. We get randy and lewd amongst ourselves, but very few of us talk in such a way that we look like narcissists who are drunk on our power. There's a very clear qualitative difference. To turn this into yet another example of 'Hey, while other men are mealy-mouthed, Trump tells it like it is!' is a desperate reach on behalf of his supporters. He isn't a 'real man'. He's a real arse.
She said real men, not hopelessly compromised white knighters who think their gender is oppressing women.

I've got news for you boy. Real women talk like this too. They're every bit as foul and randy as men are. Of course, if you actually had any idea about women, you'd know this.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:25:10 AM   
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The sort of guys we made a point of avoiding after first experience, you mean.

There's a difference between randy humor and full-on nastiness.


one person's randy humor is another person's full-on nastiness..



To me, it wouldn't feel that way. An aggressive, predatory tone, exulting in power, will mark out one man's lewd stuff from another's. I've got to say, though, I feel the average Brit would have more of a sense of the difference after the Savile revelations here, despite these being more about paedophilia.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:29:48 AM   
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She said real men, not hopelessly compromised white knighters who think their gender is oppressing women.



You really aren't playing with a full deck, are you, old chap?

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:45:52 AM   
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We don't,

From my dozen years working in bars I have to disagree, men do indeed talk like that.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:50:11 AM   
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We don't,

From my dozen years working in bars I have to disagree, men do indeed talk like that.


What, about how their power enables them to grab women by their pussies? Seriously?

Hmm. I've been a lot of nights out with the lads, as well as having worked behind a bar. Perhaps it's just the men I've come across, then.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:57:21 AM   
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What, about how their power enables them to grab women by their pussies? Seriously?

Why is it famous rock bands, well hell! Don't talk about them.

Even punk bands, have ask women to volunteer themselves to come on stage to stick a drum stick up their pussy infront of everybody and regular women have done it, because they ask. They ask them to flash titties and they do.

Yes, some guys with status can grab some woman's pussy consensually.

This to me, is just reality of life.

Some silly women gets overly impressed with status and wealth or celebrity status, they use their bodies to get close to them.

Even at work place. Some women happily use their sexuality and feel flattered when a senior management show them attention.

I tell ya, even something so basic as waitressing. I send off very cold vibes, and I am fierce, so they know if they even dare lay a finger on me, I would kill them. But there are always lecherous managers, and it never cease to amazed how some waitresses allow these assholes to touch them enjoying preferential treatment from them.

But end of the day, this shit goes on. On every level. Real story recently of a friend's colleague, wearing as skimpy as possible, he was saying, she didn't wear underwear and you could see her pussy as she sat down, and allowing a client to touch her during business dinners, because, this sale means a 1mil commission for her. And it was a ultra rich client.

And she clinched it. She had no qualms of using her sexuality. These rich dudes must be used to many women like that.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 9:58:37 AM   
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No, not that specifically, but yeah talking about women like objects and bragging about their conquests and about having copped a feel, etc. That's why I am neither shocked nor surprised by Trump's words, they are not unusual, especially among the wealthier management types. You wouldn't believe the shit I overheard men bragging about when I worked an upscale cocktail bar, they boasted about coercing sex out of their secretaries and nannies and shit like that.
Granted not all the time, but it wasn't at all unusual.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 10:00:20 AM   
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Not to mention the number of times I have been groped, and had the table of guys find it funny.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 10:01:28 AM   
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Some silly women gets overly impressed with status and wealth or celebrity status, they use their bodies to get close to them.


Well, how else are they going to get close to them?

Sorry, this subject has just got too silly for me. Trump's a repulsive slob who got caught out. No point in crying about spilt milk.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 10:02:23 AM   
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I've got news for you boy. Real women talk like this too.

I concur, though in my experience they have to get pretty drunk first. Hell just ask a male stripper about how handsy women get.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/10/2016 10:11:52 AM   
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No, not that specifically, but yeah talking about women like objects and bragging about their conquests and about having copped a feel, etc. That's why I am neither shocked nor surprised by Trump's words, they are not unusual, especially among the wealthier management types. You wouldn't believe the shit I overheard men bragging about when I worked an upscale cocktail bar, they boasted about coercing sex out of their secretaries and nannies and shit like that.
Granted not all the time, but it wasn't at all unusual.


See, it's the power aspect that gets me, most of all. He wasn't talking in fantasy mode (I'd love to X or Y her), and he wanted to be clear that he didn't have to be furtive about it. But yes, I've known types like that who've worked in the City of London ... I was at uni nearby for a while. They were *all* about being predatory and they saw being what I'd call sociopathic as being a virtue. I could believe it of that sort. (And I'd hope to pick out any one of them should he get anywhere near to holding a political position, never mind the top job.)

Well, like I say, those sorts of men are rare in my life. Actually, non existent for at least a couple of decades. For me they're not 'real men', of course - they're just arses who spend their lives bullshitting themselves and others that their psychological failings are actually virtues.

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