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Awareness -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/10/2016 7:09:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: Awareness:
She said real men, not hopelessly compromised white knighters who think their gender is oppressing women.



You really aren't playing with a full deck, are you, old chap?
Dude, my apprehension of reality is so much more comprehensive than yours. You live in a fucking bubble.




Awareness -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/10/2016 7:12:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I've got news for you boy. Real women talk like this too.

I concur, though in my experience they have to get pretty drunk first. Hell just ask a male stripper about how handsy women get.
I know. Women are way worse than men when they're drinking and in a group.

Part of the problem here is that inexperienced men seem to believe women are gentle, special creatures who are shocked by harsh language. These men have an awful lot to learn.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/10/2016 7:14:09 PM)

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Women are way worse than men when they're drinking and in a group.

Actually no, but they sure ain't saints.




Awareness -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/10/2016 7:18:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I've got news for you boy. Real women talk like this too.

I concur, though in my experience they have to get pretty drunk first. Hell just ask a male stripper about how handsy women get.


A drunken woman grabbing one's crotch isn't generally felt by the average bloke to be a threat, though.
So there are special rules for women are there?

Who am I talking to? Of COURSE there are special rules for women.

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The power aspect isn't there either, from what I've seen.
Bullshit. Men express power in a variety of ways including direct physical contact (which is often not unwelcome - power being an aphrodisiac). Women express power primarily by how they manipulate and the suffering they induce.

Of course to understand this, you'd have to understand the biological underpinnings of gender difference and since you think gender's a social construct, you have no framework in which to gain understanding.

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Or is there an example of a top female politician, whose power has gone to her had and makes her think 'any man's hers for taking' and who's been caught out doing something similar? Hard to think of it of M Thatcher or Angela Merkel, for instance. (Almost bloody surreal, actually. Heh.)
Women just need to get drunk to think a man is hers for the taking, but women's drives are different, in part owing to their minute level of testosterone.

By the way... women - especially attractive women - do not take rejection well. They are often spiteful and every bit as bad as men when it comes to handling sexual rejection.

I know, I know - more tales from a set of experiences you know very little about. I'm sure it's foreign territory to you.




Awareness -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/10/2016 7:22:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Women are way worse than men when they're drinking and in a group.

Actually no, but they sure ain't saints.
Depends on your experiences I guess. When a group of men rip the clothes off a female stripper, that's a sexual assault case. When a group of women rip the clothes off a male stripper, that's Saturday night.

Either way, it's an interesting world to navigate when you've got people bitching about men's sexual aggression while young women are complaining about the lack of it. ("Stop asking and just kiss me!")

Anyone who doesn't believe me should try asking some young, attractive women what's wrong with men today. Their tendency to ask permission is usually in the top 3 things young women hate.




Edwird -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 12:58:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

So there are special rules for women are there?

Who am I talking to? Of COURSE there are special rules for women.


You amuse yourself greatly.

People of either gender avoid socially tone-deaf clods like yourself as a matter of course, no special rules needed.





PeonForHer -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 1:08:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

So there are special rules for women are there?

Who am I talking to? Of COURSE there are special rules for women.


You amuse yourself greatly.

People of either gender avoid socially tone-deaf clods like yourself as a matter of course, no special rules needed.




They don't, you know. Women recognise Awareness's inherent masculinity and flock to him. He's often said so. Awareness has the only silverback keyboard in existence. [:)]




PeonForHer -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 2:45:05 AM)

FR

Ah. In talking about Trump's 'pussy-grabbing', I compared him earlier to Jimmy Savile, who revelled in abusing his power to grope (and much more) his way around the country. I was, however, careful to point out that a big difference existed between Trump and Savile in that the latter was a paedophile and his victims were underage.

It's only now that I've learned about the lawsuit against Trump for raping a 13 year old girl. (I know, I know, I must have been living in a cupboard.)

http://www.inquisitr.com/3562837/lawsuit-claiming-donald-trump-raped-a-13-year-old-girl-refiled-in-new-york-court-new-witness-comes-forward/
... for those, presumably few, people who need a link.

So, my apologies to any concerned about my former lack of clarity regarding the distinction between Trump and Savile, which may not turn out to exist after all.





tweakabelle -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 4:45:48 AM)

Yes The parallels are striking aren't they?

What stands out for me is that naked exercise of power for self gratification in a way that seems automatic, without ever considering issues of consent or lack thereof. The crude assumption that their position entitles them to sexual favours and the ruthless manner in which they exploit their power advantage is similar in Trump and Saville. By similar I mean not only the outward appearance of sameness but also the revolting arrogance and utter selfishness that underwrites the activities of both.

Trump comes across as a man so driven by his insecurities that only way he can feel complete is through abusing and belittling others, in pretty much the same style as Awareness on these boards.




PeonForHer -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 5:10:53 AM)

Credit where it's due, though: Awareness is probably not orange and I think he's also a couple of years younger than Trump. [:)]




PeonForHer -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 5:28:58 AM)

FR

Anyway, given this issue of Trump's facing the allegation of paedophilic rape, shall we move this discussion on to how, if that were true, Trump was only doing what any 'real man' would do if he had the power and supreme masculinity that Trump enjoys - and wasn't a pansy and a pussy like us 'beta men'? Hmmm? Any takers for that debate?




thompsonx -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 6:00:18 AM)


ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I am a tremendous gentleman, a great gentleman.


Not quite the same as being a gentleman's gentleman.[;)]




thompsonx -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 6:08:06 AM)

ORIGINAL: Awareness


Depends on your experiences I guess. When a group of men rip the clothes off a female stripper, that's a sexual assault case.


No we have you babblilng gibberish....The stripper is there to take her clothes off...the men do not need to "rip" her clothes off. Do you not know what a stripper is?

Anyone who doesn't believe me should try asking some young, attractive women what's wrong with men today. Their tendency to ask permission is usually in the top 3 things young women hate.

Cite please




tamaka -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 7:19:07 AM)

http://www.sosuave.com/romance/david/art156.htm


http://www.sosuave.com/quick2/tip546.htm




tamaka -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 7:25:35 AM)

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-if-a-guy-asks-for-permission-to-kiss-me


http://www.girlsaskguys.com/flirting/q813614-to-ask-for-permission-to-kiss-or-not




thompsonx -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 7:48:58 AM)

ORIGINAL: tamaka

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-if-a-guy-asks-for-permission-to-kiss-me

How is that working out for you sweet cheeks?




tamaka -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 8:30:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: tamaka

https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-if-a-guy-asks-for-permission-to-kiss-me

How is that working out for you sweet cheeks?



Honestly, looking back, I've never had a man ask me if it was ok to kiss me. Personally, i am really not much for kissing. I've only been with one man who was of the 'Romantic' sort and he loved to kiss and make out. I did enjoy it with him. The other men in my life (there's only been a couple) haven't been kissers either so it's been fine. I guess I'm one of those girls who follows the lead of the man I'm with and I enjoy His enjoyment of me... in whatever form that takes.




Nthrall -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 8:48:16 AM)

We all objectify partners to some extent. For example, we may want sex even when a partner is not available, and if a partner becomes available they become (in addition to everything else we may feel about them) a means to have sex.

Trump was making the point that celebrity and forwardness can achieve a measure of one-sided sexual satisfaction with a diminished possibility of dissatisfaction and rejection on the other side.

There are some fetishes which may seem childish - nipslip and upskirt, for example - and Trump's excitement at stealing gropes and kisses is just that. It's not even adult enough to be locker room talk - it's childish, but it is harassment. Bill Clinton had extra-marital sex which is no crime, but he lied about it which is. Donald Trump should have been prosecuted for harassment... except he's right that the women let him get away with it. Neither man is a monster, and there was no need for the media's hysterical reaction.

Trump's uses the politics of division and hate. He's not bright enough or charismatic enough to be a Hitler, but maybe Mussolini?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 1:10:56 PM)

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When a group of men rip the clothes off a female stripper, that's a sexual assault case. When a group of women rip the clothes off a male stripper, that's Saturday night.

Yeah, but I was thinking more along the lines of a regular bar than a strip club, what with groping the waitstaff and the fights and shit.




Greta75 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/11/2016 6:47:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
By the way... women - especially attractive women - do not take rejection well. They are often spiteful and every bit as bad as men when it comes to handling sexual rejection.


I totally disagree with this. Confident women secure in themselves takes rejection very well.

So do confident men.

An attractive woman would just shrug aside one man's rejection as she got plenty of other options. Unless she is super insecure and is not confident in her own attractiveness.

It' like not even upsetting when the options are plenty.





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