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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 3:09:44 PM   
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And now he is sizing up 10 year old girls as future conquests...
http://www.tmz.com/2016/10/12/donald-trump-dating-little-girl-entertainment-tonight-tape/



Yeah, but they'll be fifteen in no time.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 3:27:01 PM   
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Turns out Trump isn't the real issue anyway.

"I believe that Hillary Clinton will set a standard in this country that will lead to even more sexual assaults against women, because she will be setting an anti-biblical agenda," [Bachmann] said.

http://www.statesman.com/news/national-govt--politics/michele-bachmann-electing-hillary-clinton-will-lead-even-more-sexual-assaults/XjvCMc0GFHPAHVXcpTzIlK/

Thank heaven we caught that in time.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 3:39:51 PM   
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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 4:34:01 PM   
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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 5:24:56 PM   
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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 5:50:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I find it quite hysterical that the man has been running for president since a year ago June and now, all of a sudden, these woman are coming out of the woodwork. Do they really think we woman are that stupid to believe this was not orchestrated for three weeks before the election. Please.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:01:18 PM   
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theres been so much fodder from trump, maybe they have just been waiting for the debates.
Start slow...work up
It could all come down with a bang.

Or Trump could be what he is being accused of...
Most of his problem is himself.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:02:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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And now he is sizing up 10 year old girls as future conquests...
http://www.tmz.com/2016/10/12/donald-trump-dating-little-girl-entertainment-tonight-tape/



Yeah, but they'll be fifteen in no time.


That just curdled my ovaries.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:17:56 PM   
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Not that I fully understand this strange and surreal situation, but for a while I think people saw him as the anti-politician. Someone who wasn't just talking sound bites. I've always found the man disgusting, but I do recognize that people are tired and distrusting of politicians and their regurgitation of what they think voters want to hear.

And if ya been paying attention to wikileaks. Clinton is guilty of so many things she accuse Trump of. The only difference between both of them is.

Trump is genuine and openly shows all his good and bad.

Clinton is a wolf in private and pretending to be a sheep in public.

She knows how to play the political game.

Trump is his authentic imperfect self. He is not a politician. He sucks at being one. And that's awesome.

I'd like to see authenticity win for once, over fake bullshit.


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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:26:40 PM   
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"Most guys will try their luck, especially in business settings, if you are using your sexuality to sweeten him up."

So you think that guys trying their luck in the work place is okay?

I think it's extremely unprofessional. And they all should be fired from their jobs. But it doesn't happen.

But when women are using their sexuality. THEY are trying their luck too. It's fair game. That's my point. If a woman is using her sexuality to influence a business deal. SHE is using sex to win. Don't cry if it gets too hot to handle.

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Someone should not have to "blatantly say NO" when they are groped, and then forget about the groping, thankful that the groper didn't keep going and abuse them further? Frankly unless a woman acts first and grabbed the man's crotch herself, whatever she was wearing and however "nice" she was being to the man does not justify a physical sexual response from him. Oh and for the avoidance of doubt she still has the right to say no after she gropes him. It's just that if she gropes him first then may find herself accused of sexual assault.

She has the right to say no anytime of course! Yes to me, both men and women will try their luck. But when the person says no, I am not interested in your physical attention, they should stop. If they stop. They are good people. IF they transgress after no. Convict the fuck out of them! And by the way, I am not talking about a random stranger feeling anybody up. As I said also, Trump met a total stranger, the woman after he left the bus, and clearly he knows not to any how touch a stranger without asking permission. Despite bragging that he could.

We are talking about 2 people interacting already and knowing each other. One starts showing interest. To me, all the incidents were about Trump going after a woman, and then getting rejected by her. And not sexual harassment.


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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:27:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
Not that I fully understand this strange and surreal situation, but for a while I think people saw him as the anti-politician. Someone who wasn't just talking sound bites. I've always found the man disgusting, but I do recognize that people are tired and distrusting of politicians and their regurgitation of what they think voters want to hear.

And if ya been paying attention to wikileaks. Clinton is guilty of so many things she accuse Trump of. The only difference between both of them is.

Trump is genuine and openly shows all his good and bad.

Clinton is a wolf in private and pretending to be a sheep in public.

She knows how to play the political game.

Trump is his authentic imperfect self. He is not a politician. He sucks at being one. And that's awesome.

I'd like to see authenticity win for once, over fake bullshit.



Plus anyone who has anything bad to say against Clinton ends up dead.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:34:12 PM   
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Is it any less assault if I am beaten up by the Mafia but decide that I am going to stay quite because I want to be able to keep my business open?

A women using sexuality to influence the outcome a deal, is totally different from your scenario. Do you seek to get beat up to influence the outcome of Mafia leaving your business alone?

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It doesn't matter whether you are looking for a contract or dressed in an overtly sexual manner. It's still harassment. It would be a better world if people felt they didn't have to put up with this behaviour to make a living, but silence doesn't mean something is okay.
Harassment is still harassment. No man should do it, even if he can get away with it.

It amazes me how so many women can get away with sexual harassment. I mean if you go on a business meeting with your boobs falling out, and your cunt on show. And get nice, friendly and flirty. And then scream sexual harassment, when the deal doesn't go through, it is 100% the man's fault? Feels like entrapment. It's like a trap for guys.

Smart ones knows to keep his hands to himself and not get tangled up in all that shit. But there are also alot of not so smart ones.


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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 6:53:14 PM   
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It took me 25 years to let my parents know that I had been raped.


I love how you guys are now talking about Rape when Trump raped nobody.

You know what Rape is? Rape is what happens when the man continues AFTER the woman says NO.

To my knowledge, Trump has not ever done that.

And Ms Lucy hypocrite supports a religion that stones women for getting rape.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 7:06:23 PM   
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Plus anyone who has anything bad to say against Clinton ends up dead.




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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 7:13:06 PM   
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I once dated a women who was raped -


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It took me 25 years to let my parents know that I had been raped.


I love how you guys are now talking about Rape when Trump raped nobody.

You know what Rape is? Rape is what happens when the man continues AFTER the woman says NO.

To my knowledge, Trump has not ever done that.

And Ms Lucy hypocrite supports a religion that stones women for getting rape.


not biting.
too sad

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 7:41:12 PM   
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Is it any less assault if I am beaten up by the Mafia but decide that I am going to stay quite because I want to be able to keep my business open?

A women using sexuality to influence the outcome a deal, is totally different from your scenario. Do you seek to get beat up to influence the outcome of Mafia leaving your business alone?

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It doesn't matter whether you are looking for a contract or dressed in an overtly sexual manner. It's still harassment. It would be a better world if people felt they didn't have to put up with this behaviour to make a living, but silence doesn't mean something is okay.
Harassment is still harassment. No man should do it, even if he can get away with it.

It amazes me how so many women can get away with sexual harassment. I mean if you go on a business meeting with your boobs falling out, and your cunt on show. And get nice, friendly and flirty. And then scream sexual harassment, when the deal doesn't go through, it is 100% the man's fault? Feels like entrapment. It's like a trap for guys.

Smart ones knows to keep his hands to himself and not get tangled up in all that shit. But there are also alot of not so smart ones.



Woah, woah, woah.

You are really quoting me right out of context here.

I know you love Trump. I'm not trying to talk you out of that. I'm not even trying to suggest that he has or has not done anything specific, apart from being sleazy, which he is.

I took issue with what you said about how a man might behave in a business or work setting. You described your understanding of a situation you said Trump had been in. I did not raise it or even know about it. I didn't comment directly on the alleged incident but on how you described it, and the excuses you seemed to be making for men in such situations.

The point I made (which I stand by) is that nobody should have to put up with sexual attention and touching in order to make a living. Being flirty does not excuse harassment. You seemed to be suggesting that a woman who is dressed in a certain way is asking for it. That is a really slippery slope.

Now you have raised the stakes and are talking about women with "boobs falling out" and their "cunt on show".

It's all getting a bit hysterical.

Let's be really clear and take your darling Trump right out of the picture. I have accused him of nothing in this situation because I just don't have the details. It is your statements about business settings that I disagreed with.

The person with the power is the one with the money awarding the contract, or the boss or the employer. Using that position to gain sexual gratification in the workplace is an abuse of power.

It doesn't what a woman wears or doesn't wear, or how charming she is being, harassment is still harassment.

"She was asking for it because she was dressed provocatively" is not a defence. If someone can't control their sexual urges and they assault someone, it's still an assault.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 7:51:50 PM   
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It doesn't what a woman wears or doesn't wear, or how charming she is being, harassment is still harassment.

I agree on dress code does not play a part, until it is done to influence a business decision.
To me, I have just have zero respect for women using sexuality in business deals or rising in the corporate world. Period. Disdain for all of them who does that. To me, they are enabling it. IF all women REFUSED to pander to that, we can seriously have a world, where women don't have to use their sexuality to survive.

And I walk my talk. I don't wear make up, wear skirts, or wear heels. When I do my work. I do my work, I do not wish to be seen as a woman but just one of the men.

When I am on heels, skirt, and I still refuse to wear make up anyway. It is only on dates because I actually want to look nice for a guy I fancy. And intentions are clear. I want to fuck him!

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 7:55:41 PM   
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I once dated a women who was raped -


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It took me 25 years to let my parents know that I had been raped.


I love how you guys are now talking about Rape when Trump raped nobody.

You know what Rape is? Rape is what happens when the man continues AFTER the woman says NO.

To my knowledge, Trump has not ever done that.

And Ms Lucy hypocrite supports a religion that stones women for getting rape.


No Greta.

Look carefully. Nobody has accused Donald Trump of rape, whatever they might think about him.

You brought up a situation. You described it, not us.

It was your own opinion of that situation and how you have bent over backwards to excuse things in a more and more extreme way which has got you into trouble here - not anything Donald Trump might have done. The discussion very quickly became about conduct in the workplace and not Donald Trump's specific actions, which we did not comment on.

In this situation I was disagreeing with you, not with Donald Trump.

I do not expect you to change your views of male/female dynamics, but I did think that some of your statements could not go unchallenged.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 8:08:49 PM   
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It doesn't what a woman wears or doesn't wear, or how charming she is being, harassment is still harassment.

I agree on dress code does not play a part, until it is done to influence a business decision.
To me, I have just have zero respect for women using sexuality in business deals or rising in the corporate world. Period. Disdain for all of them who does that. To me, they are enabling it. IF all women REFUSED to pander to that, we can seriously have a world, where women don't have to use their sexuality to survive.

And I walk my talk. I don't wear make up, wear skirts, or wear heels. When I do my work. I do my work, I do not wish to be seen as a woman but just one of the men.

When I am on heels, skirt, and I still refuse to wear make up anyway. It is only on dates because I actually want to look nice for a guy I fancy. And intentions are clear. I want to fuck him!


I can see your own personal morality and your motivations in what you say. I'm sure that works for you and I hope you get the sex you want.

It doesn't change the fact that a guy has no right to assume that a woman wants to "fuck him" because she is dressed in heels and a skirt or trying to look attractive.

If I touched all the women I have worked with who are attractively dressed or act flirtatiously, I would be out of a job and quite possibly in court and on the sex offenders register.

And quite rightly so.

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RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments - 10/13/2016 8:14:24 PM   
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