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Wayward5oul -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 12:36:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
I could see this from teens and young adults. And men like my ex, who are in their 40s and still talk like they are a drunken frat boy. But a 59 year old grandfather? Just squicks me out.

I personally feel that men who talk like drunken frat boy usually talk like that their whole life. Your 40 yr old X is gonna be that 60 yr old who will still talk the same!

Which is why he is my ex.




angelikaJ -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 1:05:00 PM)


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Men Say Trump�s Remarks on Sex and Women Are Beyond the Pale

Was it just locker room talk?
Perhaps, but it isn't locker room talk that other men will admit to, especially the religious right.


Nup. Of course men will talk lewdly about women now and then, amongst themselves, but in that narcissistic, power-slobbering way? Well, not in my male circles. Those male Trump defenders who chuckle scornfully about men who deny talking just like Trump being liars are themselves liars.


Agree.




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 1:33:08 PM)


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Way to try and deflect Nanjii, but Nobody is denying that men AND women talk like this.... Hell I do most days.
Its just a shame that that isnt the fucking issue.


Actually, I am denying it. I mean, I guess it's possible, but it definitely isn't common as far as I can tell.

I personally don't know anyone who talks like that, and would actively avoid anyone who did... and so would most people I know. I refuse to believe that the world is so full of neanderthals and assholes that this is in any way defensible as acceptable behavior.

Sure the comments aren't related to policy, but Trump is so delusional about what being the president involves and so completely ridiculously childish in his big plans to be the boss of America that all he really has going for him is his personality. A lot of people already know that it's shit, but now it can't be denied by anyone.

I honestly think that 80% of the people on this board would make a better president. I know children who could do a better job, because at least they know that you catch more flies with honey. If he actually stood a chance of being elected, then about a year after he won people would realize just how little he knows about reality. His own party would do their best to muzzle him and make him the most impotent, powerless president in American history and he would probably quit midterm after realizing he actually has to work with others to get things done.

I get that people hate the establishment, but Trump is worse than the establishment. He is a pig, a clueless idiot, and a national embarrassment. He has exposed just how stupid/easily misled Americans can be-- and my faith in democracy has been shaken by his candidacy. Unless this is some conspiracy to get Hillary a guaranteed win by running her against the most ridiculously unfit candidate in the history of American politics, it is essentially signalling to the rest of the world that America has completely lost the plot. The only possible reason to vote for this guy is if you're so cynical about the electoral system/politics in general that you want to see it all come crashing down... otherwise, you're objectively stupid.

I'm all for having an anti-establishment candidate, but this guy is not worthy of anyone's respect. Seriously, just admit he's an abomination, be patient and wait for the next one... it is altogether possible to have a right-wing candidate that is intelligent, capable and not part of the establishment. He or she is out there right now, you just have to believe.

But for the love of God, let America and the rest of the world forget this disgusting creature as quickly as possible so we can never mention his name again and forget 2016 ever happened.


hi and welcome to the boards...sorry I was away for the day, (its thanksgiving weekend here and we celebrated yesterday.) I havent had chance to respond before now.


Im guessing your lifestyle differs from mine, in mine, graphic sexual talk is not uncommon, in fact its very common even before I got seriously into kink. And has been since I was a child. Im neither saying it is a good thing or a bad thing, it is what it is.
Im not shocked, or offended by the words.
Apart from that, I cannot disagree with anything you have said.
Unfortunately, whatever happens to trump will not calm the savage beasties that support him.




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 1:56:24 PM)


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Let's keep in mind that all of us have, for years, seen politicians promise one thing at election time and do something else after the back room meetings. Both sides are equally guilty. This year, the republican voters told the republican political hierarchy no more. They cast aside all of the professional politicians. Sure, they found an imperfect vessel. But, on the other hand, the party of Occupy Wall Steet against the 1 percenters have nominated a card carrying unabashed 1 percenter. It's a shame and it shows that they want power more than they want to fix the system. My personal choice is the flawed vessel rather than the status quo with back room deals that only enrich the 1 percent. Frankly, that's too bad. I've much more sympathy for the occupiers now then when they were being dicks in public. But, it seems they've all gone away now anyway.

I cant disagree with your first 2 sentences, both indeed are guilty of lying out of their arses promising the moon to line their own pockets, I have never claimed otherwise.
The republicans were given 17 choices, and they chose the one man who stood out because he was promising he could give them a good deal on the wall, jobs coming back, and banning muslims. and because he was a business man, he was the only man who could do it. because he makes the best deals....
Like chumps they bought it.

People are angry, damn straight they are, and so many of them have EVERY right to be.... but everyone is fed up not JUST the rw.

Many people are sick to death of and are angry about Hillary. She is a flawed vessel(lol)
Which is why so many people wanted Bernie to win.

Btw you are mistaken in the belief that the OWS have gone away.
But Im very glad that most of the teaparty went snivelling into the night. they did enormous amounts of damage to the GOP
Then elected the diva donald.
Its working out for you all so well.

This is just the latest bomb to hit this election, there is more to come, which will probably hurt both sides.
In a normal year, I would have voted Bernie, then Stein rather than Hills.
Trump being Trump is the GOPs punishment, they meted to themselves.




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 2:29:27 PM)


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The RNC has suspended Trump's campaign while they figure out what to do about him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363

It was also interesting to see that Pence has gone into hiding.
That Giuliani was out on the tv shows this morning instead of Conway and Preibus.
He didnt do well with Chuck Todd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6Q_PQLhYY




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 2:56:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
I could see this from teens and young adults. And men like my ex, who are in their 40s and still talk like they are a drunken frat boy. But a 59 year old grandfather? Just squicks me out.

I personally feel that men who talk like drunken frat boy usually talk like that their whole life. Your 40 yr old X is gonna be that 60 yr old who will still talk the same!

The more respectful ones, are respectful since teens.

They don't have gagging orders on their three ex wives either, probably.

Somebody suggested that trump drop the gag orders on them all, so they could be talked to..of course there is a snowballs chance in hell it would happen.
but "some people say" that marla is the only person apart from the diva who could release the tax records legally that showed nearly a billion dollar loss.
But the trump team, obviously not expecting the groping to come out had juanita broderick waiting in the wings..... its actually something I expected long ago, and especially at the debate, maybe the nasty thing he wanted to say, but had the "courage" not to.

The only question for me is which side will get the ugliest.




Awareness -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 3:07:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: bounty44
why in this case all the uproar about trump?



Because Trump is standing for election as POTUS. And I am sure most Americans don't want a President who stomps around boasting of his gropes and sexual assaults on women.
Oh, I dunno - it worked just fine for Clinton.

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I cannot conceive of any reason why any one would try to defend this pathetic sexist conman any longer. Just when you think that his behaviour cannot get any worse, he finds a new novel way of lowering the bar yet again. Even his own party is deserting him, something they should have done ages ago.
For the sane amongst you, I shall interpret: "Waaaaaahhhh. Men are the debil! Waaaahhhh. When will my lesbian feminist Goddess be elected President? Waaaaaahhh!"

Watching you man-hating lesbians lose your shit is funny as fuck.




mnottertail -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 4:01:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

The RNC has suspended Trump's campaign while they figure out what to do about him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363

It was also interesting to see that Pence has gone into hiding.
That Giuliani was out on the tv shows this morning instead of Conway and Preibus.
He didnt do well with Chuck Todd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6Q_PQLhYY

Did you see old Rudy the rodshiner today? He looked like death warmed over, standing on the streetcorner, begging the fuck outta lifesavers. He wasn't even wearing his glasses so he didnt have to see this shit.




PeonForHer -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 4:06:49 PM)

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Did you see old Rudy the rodshiner today? He looked like death warmed over, standing on the streetcorner, begging the fuck outta lifesavers. He wasn't even wearing his glasses so he didnt have to see this shit.

Oh yes indeedy. The poor lad was *ashen*.




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 4:24:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

The RNC has suspended Trump's campaign while they figure out what to do about him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363

It was also interesting to see that Pence has gone into hiding.
That Giuliani was out on the tv shows this morning instead of Conway and Preibus.
He didnt do well with Chuck Todd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6Q_PQLhYY

Did you see old Rudy the rodshiner today? He looked like death warmed over, standing on the streetcorner, begging the fuck outta lifesavers. He wasn't even wearing his glasses so he didnt have to see this shit.


I have to admit, I watched three of the interviews I think, chuck todd, jake tapper, and george stephanopoulos...Ive also been over at drudge and fox and the supremacist sites this evening Ive mostly bleached my mind and now just relaxing ....waiting on the debate...

I dont care who thinks I'm obsessed or partisan because right now I am.
I do believe Hilary can lose, I do believe there is still shit to throw at her.
Im anticipating a very entertaining and vicious evening.
reality tv at its ugliest.




mnottertail -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 4:25:31 PM)

He had his pussy grabbed, I warrant.




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 4:48:14 PM)


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He had his pussy grabbed, I warrant.

got a link? i have time:)




tj444 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 5:33:03 PM)


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So you are whining because he did the work to get what he wants and you didn't because you are some poor cog in the wheel instead of being the driver of the wheel -- You do realize Hillary and EVERY president has done exactly that? Don't be a hypocrite -- IF you could do what he did YOU WOULD! You are mosting a MEDIA coverage seriously? Yeah the media hasn't shown bias in this election AT ALL. Good grief. You aren't paying YOUR FAIR SHARE if you take advantage of any loophole or benefit allowed for you to take. DO NOT BE A HYPOCRIT. This is what I am talking about with regard to INTEGRITY --- yeah trump and most every politician and person who has a damn good accountant takes advantage of every benefit and loophole. How many people set up trusts and other things to protect inheritance to their kids from getting slammed on taxes? How many people higher accounting firms and finance people to protect them against having to pay out in various taxes. IF your wealth was the same as Trump and Hilary and the like, you also would be taking as much as advantage as both of them and others do. So if you REMOTELY believe Hilary is squeaky clean on taxes -- you are an idiot.

Stop being a hypocrite an holding trump to a different standard than you do Hilary or any politician or majorily wealthy person.

Trump is no more or less dangerous than any other politician out there. The difference between him and Hillary is he acknowledges that this country is fucked up and believes we need to focus ON US and fix our issues before we look to helping the rest of the world. I'm willing to give him 4 years to prove he can fix our fucked up country.

I can guarantee you that if Hilary becomes President there will be a civil war in this country again because NOTHING she is saying now will be what she focuses on and the people supporting her because they are stupid and actually believe her -- though her history doesn't show any advocating or assistance in what she claims she will do -- will revolt because they will eventually get tired of being lied to first by obamass and now Hilary to get elected.




FFS, I am not complaining cuz he "did the work" as you put it.. I am complaining that he didnt "find" loopholes, he helped create them. He lobbied govt & personally I dont think anyone should be allowed to do that... so much for "We the people" when what govt does benefits only the 1%ers.. Now that is American hypocracy for ya.. No I wouldnt do that, I believe in fairness & an even playing field.. but then, I'm not an American so my values and yours are very different..




Wayward5oul -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 5:51:20 PM)


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http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

Thanks. Interesting. We shall have to wait to see if there is any truth in this. I notice that the witness statement was not attached as an affidavit, so I am a bit skeptical.

Mike Fisten, a retired Miami-Dade detective who conducted research for several of Epstein's victims, denied such parties ever even took place. "Jeffery never had parties like described in their complaint," Fisten told me. "Jeffery had sex parties, for sure, with two or three girls -- but never with other guys." There were men in attendance at Epstein’s more large, lavish affairs, Fisten said, but nothing illicit ever happened at such events. ~Source

The facts speak less to a scandal and more, perhaps, to an attempt at a smear -- one that finally, after months of clumsy maneuvering, is gaining speed ~Source

The Source Pushing The Trump Rape Lawsuits May Not Be Who He Says He Is

K.


Great article. Thank you, K. I thought it seemed fishy.

I'm not ready to say its invalid yet...there is too much here for it not to be looked into.

As far as illicit events at Epstein's house...he is a level 3 registered sex offender, notorious for his prediliction for underage girls. His nickname is "the billionare pedophile".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein


A summary of the case, along with the affidavit from the accuser and the witness.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

Of the 3 points the author makes, the first two are either current fodder or events that were settled without any clear evidence of guilt or innocence. The third is the relevant one here, and towards the end of it is the link to the affidavits.




tj444 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 6:00:29 PM)


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As for it happening years ago:

"As I told everyone once before, Wiener is a sick puppy who will never change-100% of perverts go back to their ways. Sadly, there is no cure."

Donald Trump via Twitter, July 23, 2013

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/359803783724793857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



Gotta love the internet & social media.. it never forgets... [:D]




tj444 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 6:43:55 PM)



"‘Voice’ Star Meghan Linsey Speaks Out About Sexual Harassment in Frank, Trump-Inspired Facebook Post
Yahoo Music’s Reality Rocks is re-running Linsey’s shocking post, which originally appeared on her private, personal Facebook profile, with her express permission.

“This is lengthy. And as much as I have tried to not talk about the election the last few days, I feel like this is important enough to share. To my friends defending Donald Trump’s disgusting comments about women,” Linsey writes. “When I was touring with Steel Magnolia in 2010, a very powerful man in the music business grabbed up my skirt. He was groping me and proceeded to try to pick me up by my ass on a bus in front of a lot of important people.

“I was mortified and told him not to touch me and to put me down. It caused quite a scene and I could tell that he was embarrassed and angry. The next night he came up behind me and whispered in my ear, he said, ‘I have boats bigger than you could ever imagine, and I could put you in the middle of the ocean where no one would ever hear from you again. Just remember that.’ He laughed and walked away.

“I stood there still with chills running through me. I couldn’t believe what he had just said to me. I knew I had to tell someone. I called my manager and she told me to never breathe a word of that story to anyone ever. I told the head of my label and he told me the same thing. They both said if I wanted to have a career in country music then I could never say anything about it out loud, to anyone.

“Men have done far worse things to me in the past, but this was the first time I was told I couldn’t say anything because of how it would affect my career. Because of how powerful he was, he could do anything he wanted to me. If I wanted to have a singing career, then I had to let him grab me wherever he wanted and he was allowed to threaten me. It was only I who had consequences to pay if I didn’t comply.”

Linsey then explains: “THIS is why Donald Trump’s comments are so upsetting. This is why it’s not just ‘locker room talk.’ Because at the end of the day, it’s NOT just talk. This is rape culture, where powerful men sexually assault women and get away with it because of ‘who they are.’ Donald Trump is one of those men. At first I wasn’t voting for him because I love my African American friends, my LGBT friends, my Muslim friends, my Hispanic friends… But hearing his comments in that tape started to make it even more personal for me. It made me feel like I wanted to vomit, because it reminded me of the many times I’ve been compromised as a woman.”

Linsey concludes by saying “rape culture has to stop… If you are calling it ‘locker room talk’ or ‘just what men do’ or saying ‘it was 11 years ago’ or ‘he was just trying to sound cool while talking to a young reporter,’ then YOU are a HUGE part of the problem. I want to live in a world where women don’t have to be quiet anymore. I’m tired of living in a country where 97 out of 100 rapists walk free. I don’t want a president who perpetuates rape culture and sets the already skewed standard for how men are allowed to treat women. Real men don’t talk like that, real men don’t sexually assault and rape women. Period.”

Linsey agreed to let Yahoo Music publicly post her Facebook essay, but said she’d “rather not name names” regarding the identity of her groper on the bus."


https://www.yahoo.com/music/voice-star-meghan-linsey-speaks-out-about-sexual-harassment-in-frank-trump-inspired-facebook-post-212149195.html




ohthat1percent -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 7:09:51 PM)

and yet she doesn't NAME any of these people. I hate to say it but SHE is part of the problem because she isn't calling these people out but is complaining about something Donald trump said 11 years ago.

I am a woman and I understand the issues women face and still face -- however, women cannot expect change when they keep SILENT about people.

You can't have it both ways -- you can't live in a world where women don't have to be quiet -- IF YOU REMAIN QUIET.

No one has a clue if this really happened, if women want this to change -- WOMEN have to change it and I am not talking about whining about what was said by someone 11 years ago, I am talking about stepping up and telling the people DOING THIS TO THEM -- they are wrong and it is not accepted.

REAL MEN DO TALK like this -- hell its all over the music industry -- is she standing against that? Not that I have heard. Being in the music industry -- she has the ability to help create change -- but instead she is posting facebook posts accusing someone but not naming the people and complaining about Donald trump.

This crap is all over the music industry -- what is she doing to change it -- NOTHING.




tj444 -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 8:52:38 PM)


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and yet she doesn't NAME any of these people. I hate to say it but SHE is part of the problem because she isn't calling these people out but is complaining about something Donald trump said 11 years ago.

I am a woman and I understand the issues women face and still face -- however, women cannot expect change when they keep SILENT about people.

You can't have it both ways -- you can't live in a world where women don't have to be quiet -- IF YOU REMAIN QUIET.

No one has a clue if this really happened, if women want this to change -- WOMEN have to change it and I am not talking about whining about what was said by someone 11 years ago, I am talking about stepping up and telling the people DOING THIS TO THEM -- they are wrong and it is not accepted.

REAL MEN DO TALK like this -- hell its all over the music industry -- is she standing against that? Not that I have heard. Being in the music industry -- she has the ability to help create change -- but instead she is posting facebook posts accusing someone but not naming the people and complaining about Donald trump.

This crap is all over the music industry -- what is she doing to change it -- NOTHING.

Obviously he can still destroy her career and very possibly could still arrange to have her disappear and never be seen alive again.. Why, at this point, does she need to name him? I doubt he can be charged for assault now, there are statutes of limitations.. If she was to name him, he would just deny it.. nothing would happen to him but she would be blacklisted immediately.. Her post wasnt about her assaulter, it was about Trump and what he said and how some people were giving him a pass on that..
She told what happened to her cuz she was making the point that its not just locker room banter, that it happens to women and people shouldnt pretend saying you can assault a woman (due to being famous) and get way with is just banter, its not..




Awareness -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/9/2016 10:41:43 PM)

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"‘Voice’ Star Meghan Linsey Speaks Out About Sexual Harassment in Frank, Trump-Inspired Facebook Post
Yahoo Music’s Reality Rocks is re-running Linsey’s shocking post, which originally appeared on her private, personal Facebook profile, with her express permission.
News flash: "Has-been reality show contestant who hasn't had attention in a while relates story about anonymous man doing terrible things. Expects to bask in spotlight for at least a week."

Five bucks says she's making it up. Every. Last. Detail.




Edwird -> RE: Trump's pussy-groping comments (10/10/2016 1:37:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
why in this case all the uproar about trump?

Because Trump is standing for election as POTUS. And I am sure most Americans don't want a President who stomps around boasting of his gropes and sexual assaults on women.
Oh, I dunno - it worked just fine for Clinton.

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I cannot conceive of any reason why any one would try to defend this pathetic sexist conman any longer. Just when you think that his behaviour cannot get any worse, he finds a new novel way of lowering the bar yet again. Even his own party is deserting him, something they should have done ages ago.
For the sane amongst you, I shall interpret: "Waaaaaahhhh. Men are the debil! Waaaahhhh. When will my lesbian feminist Goddess be elected President? Waaaaaahhh!"

Watching you man-hating lesbians lose your shit is funny as fuck.



Boy, talk about a classic case of projection.




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