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Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 7:28:10 PM   
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Which bank will pick Hillary's


https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton

Michael Froman, who is now U.S. trade representative but at the time was an executive at Citigroup, wrote an email to Podesta on October 6, 2008, with the subject “Lists.” Froman used a Citigroup email address. He attached three documents: a list of women for top administration jobs, a list of non-white candidates, and a sample outline of 31 cabinet-level positions and who would fill them. “The lists will continue to grow,” Froman wrote to Podesta, “but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs.”

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 7:31:26 PM   
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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 8:42:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		So you're fine with the big banks controlling who makes up the administration for Democrat Presidents?

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 9:00:44 PM   
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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 9:07:05 PM   
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Looking at the actual email and attachments, I didn't see anything suggesting, much less proving, that Froman acted on Citibank's behalf. He had a background in public service, sat out the Bush 43 administration (which probably had little use for him), and was clearly interested in returning to public life. Yes, using a work email was dumb, but it's a mistake I've made myself.

One often hears from our brethren across the aisle that the market knows best and government should be run "more like a business." Given that mindset, it seems odd to complain that the Obama administration drew on the counsel and service of folks with business as well as government background.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 9:23:04 PM   
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Looking at the actual email and attachments, I didn't see anything suggesting, much less proving, that Froman acted on Citibank's behalf. He had a background in public service, sat out the Bush 43 administration (which probably had little use for him), and was clearly interested in returning to public life. Yes, using a work email was dumb, but it's a mistake I've made myself.

One often hears from our brethren across the aisle that the market knows best and government should be run "more like a business." Given that mindset, it seems odd to complain that the Obama administration drew on the counsel and service of folks with business as well as government background.

So you're saying that imposing a quota system of based on gender and race is "more like business" would do?

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 9:33:01 PM   
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So you're saying that imposing a quota system of based on gender and race is "more like business" would do?

Interesting question.

Beyond the strawmannish "So you're...," the question seems oddly at odds with your OP. If, as you appear to suggest, Froman's approach to identifying talent is not something a business would do, then he strikes me even less as a likely agent of Citibank, let alone all of Wall Street.


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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 10:52:24 PM   
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If you look at his education, you can see he's not really a businessman.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/14/2016 10:57:02 PM   
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Still Reagan didn't play ball with the bankers and didn't attend their meetings. It took all of 69 fucking days to shoot his ass. Reagan got real lucky, he was supposed to die. Then Bush the neocon, business, wall street poster boy would have taken over. But THEN Reagan...played ball.

Now if you really believe that Hinkley shot Reagan over a crush and an openly gay actress, then you WILL believe anything and by far too many Americans do when it suits them...believe what the govt. tells them. Go ahead, except of course, only when your ridiculous partisan prejudices tell you not to.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 5:48:34 AM   
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So you're fine with the big banks controlling who makes up the administration for Democrat Presidents?


I am more fine with that than I am with war corporations making up nutsucker administrations which is a situation you are in love with.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 6:15:01 AM   
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So you're fine with the big banks controlling who makes up the administration for Democrat Presidents?


I am more fine with that than I am with war corporations making up nutsucker administrations which is a situation you are in love with.


I guess Clinton is one of these nutsucker administrations you so love eh?
Defense contractor employees give the most money to Hillary Clinton

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 7:08:28 AM   
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So you're saying that imposing a quota system of based on gender and race is "more like business" would do?

Interesting question.

Beyond the strawmannish "So you're...,"



Good observation and call out - again.


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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 8:03:22 AM   
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So you're fine with the big banks controlling who makes up the administration for Democrat Presidents?


I am more fine with that than I am with war corporations making up nutsucker administrations which is a situation you are in love with.


I guess Clinton is one of these nutsucker administrations you so love eh?
Defense contractor employees give the most money to Hillary Clinton


Nope, you nutsuckers are all for the wars across the globe while letting america rot.

A half a million from 50 defense contractors? That wont buy asswipe money for a month. Meaningless. How much has Koch and Haliburton put into nutsuckers. So you have a deal where cruz in two months got 357K from them. Good thing nutsuckers will not win the presidency hah?
Think of the wars we would be in while the nutsuckers cut veterans.



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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 8:25:30 AM   
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Not only has this been going on at least since the 1920's and likely before but as I've tried to tell you, presidents do what they need to do...to stay alive. Reagan did not meet with or take money from wall street. Reagan did not want Bush I as his running mate. He was told by the repub establishment to take Bush, to unite the repubs and get party money, so he did.

Still Reagan didn't play ball with the bankers and didn't attend their meetings. It took all of 69 fucking days to shoot his ass. Reagan got real lucky, he was supposed to die. Then Bush the neocon, business, wall street poster boy would have taken over. But THEN Reagan...played ball.

Now if you really believe that Hinkley shot Reagan over a crush and an openly gay actress, then you WILL believe anything and by far too many Americans do when it suits them...believe what the govt. tells them. Go ahead, except of course, only when your ridiculous partisan prejudices tell you not to.

I knew I could count on you to bring out the tin foil hats.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 9:44:32 AM   
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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 10:09:18 AM   
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So you're saying that imposing a quota system of based on gender and race is "more like business" would do?

Of course he's not.
Hoping that businesses will fire incompetent fuckwits rather than promoting them appears to be asking for the moon on a stick these days.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 10:10:29 AM   
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Froman

If you look at his education, you can see he's not really a businessman.

Agreed. That's why he strikes me more as a politico than an agent of Citibank.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 10:14:43 AM   
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Froman

If you look at his education, you can see he's not really a businessman.

Agreed. That's why he strikes me more as a politico than an agent of Citibank.


Yep.. he absolutely is.

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 10:34:23 AM   
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So you're fine with the big banks controlling who makes up the administration for Democrat Presidents?

No, but then again I assume they pretty much do that regardless of who is in "power".

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RE: Citigroup dictated Obama Cabinet and Admin - 10/15/2016 3:52:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Michael Froman was on Obama's transition team.

That's what transition team peeps do, innit?

Why are you shocked?

Why is this an issue?

wtf?

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