thompsonx
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Not so. California has a shall issue policy for ccw.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.
26150. (a) When a person applies for a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the sheriff of a county may issue a license to that person upon proof of all of the following:
(1) The applicant is of good moral character.
(2) Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
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26155. (a) When a person applies for a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the chief or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county may issue a license to that person upon proof of all of the following:
(1) The applicant is of good moral character.
(2) Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
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26170. Upon proof of all of the following, the sheriff of a county, or the chief or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county, may issue to an applicant a license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person:
(1) The applicant is of good moral character.
(2) Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
...
The code neglects to define "good moral character" (presumably it's like pornography) or "good cause," or what might constitute "proof" of either.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=26001-27000&file=26150-26225
K.
On 13 feb. 2014 the 9th circuit ruled that the issuing body shall issue ccw. which would seem to make your contention invalid...but...on 9 june of this year the court reversed itself so it would seem that the old law was again valid...but...in light of the 9 june 2016 rueling sacramento county and orange county changed their licensing rules. So for the most left wing (sacramento county) county in the state and the most right wing (orange county)county in the state shall issue is the rule. The rest of the state, once again, falls under the old rules you posted.
So with of the exception of those two counties I stand corrected and disabused of my ignorance.
Peruta v. San Diego is a case before the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit pertaining to the legality of San Diego County's restrictive policy regarding requiring documentation of "good cause" that "distinguish[es] the applicant from the mainstream and places the applicant in harm's way" (Cal. Pen. Code §§ 26150, 26155) before issuing a concealed carry permit.
After an initial ruling which held that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protected the right to carry a weapon, the court reheard the case en banc, ultimately upholding the lower court ruling, saying that "there is no Second Amendment right for members of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public." While the ruling technically applied to all states and territories under the jurisdiction of the Ninth Circuit, it only applied to California and Hawaii in practice because the remaining states in the Ninth Circuit's area of responsibility have either Shall-Issue licensing policies or allow concealed carry without a permit.
Contents
[hide] 1 Reasoning
2 Details
3 History
4 Reactions
5 Related cases 5.1 Scocca v. Smith
5.2 Richards v. Prieto
5.3 Baker v. Kealoha
6 See also
7 References
8 External links
Reasoning[edit]
The court reviewed the history of gun control cases in which laws forbidding the concealed carry of weapons were involved. They covered a time period from 1299 (in England) to the late 1800's US Supreme Court. The majority opinion was that there was an "overwhelming consensus" of historical case decisions establishing that there was never a time in history when courts believed that states could not prohibit concealed carry. Consequently, they concluded it could not be a violation of the long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment.[1]
The minority argued that a prohibition on concealed carry for the general public, accompanied by a similar prohibition on open carry, was a de facto gun ban, and therefore is unconstitutional under District of Columbia v. Heller.[1]
Details[edit]
Under San Diego's policy, a "'typical' citizen in San Diego County cannot bear arms in public for self-defense" because by San Diego's definition, typical citizens cannot '"distinguish [themselves] from the mainstream'" and receive concealed carry permits. (Peruta v. San Diego (9th Cir, 02-13-14) p. 54.) Although prior to January 1, 2012, it was legal to openly carry an unloaded handgun in public, in October 2011 Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill that modifies the law on openly carrying an unloaded firearm to match the restrictions for openly carrying a loaded weapon,[2] effectively prohibiting (in all but limited circumstances) the open carry of firearms whether loaded or unloaded. (Cal. Pen. Code §§ 25850, 26155.) Thus, the court found San Diego County's restrictive policy in combination with California's denial of open carry ultimately resulted in the destruction of the typical law-abiding, responsible citizen's right to bear arms in any manner in public, thereby violating the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
History[edit]
The February 13, 2014 decision is written by Diarmuid O'Scannlain, with Consuelo María Callahan joining and Sidney Runyan Thomas dissenting, and affirms the right of responsible, law-abiding citizens to carry a handgun in public for lawful self-defense. The primary plaintiff, Edward Peruta, was represented by attorneys Paul Neuharth, Jr. from San Diego and Chuck Michel from Long Beach.[3][4]
On February 27, 2014 California Attorney General Kamala Harris filed a petition for en banc review of the decision. As the state was not a formal party of the case, her action is not an appeal, but merely a request that the full court re-hear the case en-banc on its own initiative. The court denied Harris' petition on November 12, 2014.[5][6][7][8][needs update]
On December 3, 2014, the Ninth Circuit announced that a judge on the circuit made a sua sponte call for a vote on whether the case should be reheard en banc. The court gave the parties, and any Amici curiae, 21 days to file briefs setting forth their positions whether the case should be reheard en banc.[9]
On March 26, 2015, the Ninth Circuit announced that they will hear the case, along with Richards v. Prieto, en banc, including setting aside the original rulings in the cases and stating that they are not to be used as case law. The cases were argued on June 16, 2015.
On June 9, 2016, the en banc court affirmed the lower court ruling, saying that "there is no Second Amendment right for members of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public." [10] The en banc ruling did not address the constitutionality of restrictions on open carry, leaving that matter open to potential future litigation.
On June 23, 2016, the Plaintiff-Appellants petitioned the 9th Circuit for a full-court re-hearing.
On August 15, 2016, the petition for a full court en banc rehearing was denied by the 9th Circuit.[11]
Reactions[edit]
The San Diego County Sheriff's Department has issued a press release dated February 21, 2014 stating it will not seek review of the decision by the entire membership of judges sitting in the Ninth Circuit, and "Should the decision of the Ninth Circuit become final, the Sheriff's Department will begin to issue CCW's in situations where the applicant has met all other lawful qualifications and has requested a CCW for purposes of self-defense."[12]
As a result of the court's decision, the Orange County Sheriff's Department has loosened requirements for obtaining a concealed carry permit. Instead of requiring the applicant to have "good cause", the applicant will only have to assert that a permit is needed for self-defense or personal safety.[13]
Related cases[edit]
Scocca v. Smith[edit]
Scocca v. Smith[14] - In 2008, Tim Scocca, a former law enforcement officer, applied for a concealed-carry permit from Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith, and was denied because he could not show "good cause".[15] Scocca sued Smith, and the case was put on hold pending decisions in San Diego and Yolo County cases, and has since been dismissed.
Richards v. Prieto[edit]
In addition to Peruta, the same judges heard the Richards v. Prieto case at the same time, which challenged the handgun carry license policy of Yolo County Sheriff Ed Prieto.[16][17] The case originally was entitled Sykes v. McGinness and included Sacramento County's then-sheriff, John McGinness, as a defendant. Sacramento County changed its licensing policy during the lawsuit, and the complaint against McGinness was dismissed.
After ruling on Peruta, the Ninth Circuit judges unanimously ruled in Richards:
In light of our holding in [Peruta] we conclude that the district court in this case erred in ruling Richard[s'] motion for summary judgment because the Yolo County policy impermissibly infringes on the Second Amendment right to bear arms in lawful self-defense.
Baker v. Kealoha[edit]
In addition to Peruta, the same judges heard the Baker v. Kealoha case at the same time, which challenged the handgun carry law in Hawaii. After ruling on Peruta, the Ninth Circuit judges in a 2-1 vote ruled in Baker:
In light of our disposition of the same issue in [Peruta] we conclude that the district court made an error of law when it concluded the Hawaii statutes at issue did not implicate protected conduct.[18]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruta_v._San_Diego_County
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