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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/16/2016 7:49:13 PM   
WinsomeDefiance


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hmm, well thank you for clarifying and doing so in as nice a way as you can


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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/16/2016 7:59:14 PM   
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hmm, well thank you for clarifying and doing so in as nice a way as you can



From your previous post I gather that he is once again bravely attacking me, knowing that I have him on hide and will not see his attacks and thus have no chance to deffend myself. Par for the course.

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 3:31:50 AM   
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From your previous post I gather that he is once again bravely attacking me, knowing that I have him on hide and will not see his attacks and thus have no chance to deffend myself. Par for the course.


I believe it was mr. k who pointed out how cowardly it is of you to do so.
We all know how brave you are, having bragged of how boldly you hit your ex wife in the face with a door.


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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 3:40:48 AM   
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Since I am part Sioux nope I wouldn't have said that to my relatives.


If you were part souix you would be getting a welfare cheque for being so.
You would also have access to housing on the reservation/pow camp and free medical but you have told us of your abject poverty so it is pretty clear that your claim is more than a little disingenuous.


But we did expel the mental defectives from our country, sent them back to England.

The history books seem to indicate that it was the french who did that. Are you now claiming to be french?

If you claim to have a cdl at 15 we may doubt everything else you say

If you claim not to be able to do simple sums we may assume that you are stupid.

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 3:48:19 AM   
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hmm, well thank you for clarifying and doing so in as nice a way as you can


I appreciate your appreciation of my style of presentation. I would be more interested in your opinion of my opinions.

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 10:47:06 AM   
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Not so. California has a shall issue policy for ccw.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


26150. (a) When a person applies for a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the sheriff of a county may issue a license to that person upon proof of all of the following:

   (1) The applicant is of good moral character.
   (2) Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
   ...

26155. (a) When a person applies for a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, the chief or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county may issue a license to that person upon proof of all of the following:

   (1) The applicant is of good moral character.
   (2) Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
   ...

26170. Upon proof of all of the following, the sheriff of a county, or the chief or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county, may issue to an applicant a license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person:

   (1) The applicant is of good moral character.
   (2) Good cause exists for issuance of the license.
   ...


The code neglects to define "good moral character" (presumably it's like pornography) or "good cause," or what might constitute "proof" of either.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=26001-27000&file=26150-26225

K.





PROOF? Which of course is only legitimate if reviewed by a court.

Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966) (111 pages); -- Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.

-- The only one to testify against you is yourself.


But they abrogate your rights every day by the process of ever expanding infringement and shockingly university egglmacated dipshits in this country are too illiterate to 'get it'.



Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943) "No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefore."

City of Chicago v Cullens, et al, 51 N.E. 907, 910, etc. (1906)"A license is a privilege granted by the state" and "cannot possibly exist with reference to something which is a right...

SHUTTLESWORTH V. CITY OF BIRMINGHAM, 373 U. S. 262 (1963): "If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity."

Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721 (1969): Your photograph and fingerprints are your property.

Trezevant v. City of Tampa, 741 F.2d 336 (11th Cir. 1984): US Court of Appeal awarded $65,217.39/hour for false imprisonment.

Hafer v. Melo, 502 U.S. 21 (1991): The US Supreme Court ruled that public Officials (Judge are not exempt) who cause "Unauthorized Deprivations" lose their Eleventh Amendment Protection and are subject to suit for damages under 42 U.S.C. § 1983. This Case before the US Court of Appeals is found at 912 F.2d 628. The key is negligence: acting in excess or without authority or jurisdiction or failing to act when required to do so. Also read Melo v. Hafer, 13 F.3d 736 (3d Cir. 1994).

If the government pleaS sovereign immunity, then here are some other cases, which lay that nonsense to rest. Westfall v. Erwin, 484 US 292 (1988); Will v. Michigan State Police, 491 US 58 (1989); and Mitchum v. Foster, 407 US 225 (1972). The latter makes the bureaucRATS cringe. When coupled with PL 94-381 and Senate Report 94-204, 28 U.S.C. § 2284.

“If you’ve relied on prior decisions of the Supreme Court you have a perfect defense for willfulness.”
U.S. v. Bishop, 412 U.S. 346

“Federal law & Supreme Court cases apply to state court cases.”
Howlett v. Rose, 496 U.S. 356 (1990)

"Jurisdiction, once challenged, cannot be assumed and must be decided."
Maine v. Thiboutot, 100 S. Ct. 250


The code neglects to define "good moral character" (presumably it's like pornography) or "good cause," or what might constitute "proof" of either.

I have definitions for justice department that complies with 'original intent':

"good moral character" 'not' in jail.
"good cause," 'reserved' right


This type of legislation is ripe for a 1983 suit, better yet CL suit and really bust their nuts.

Why people continue to sucker for 'unconstitutional regulatory euphemisms' being used to 'replace' the constitution and enforced as law is beyond me.




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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 2:21:06 PM   
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hmm, well thank you for clarifying and doing so in as nice a way as you can


... I would be more interested in your opinion of my opinions.


I genuinely dislike discussions that turn insulting and feel it is possible to disagree with a person's beliefs without needing to resort to insults. As your posting style often ends with an insult toward the person you are responding to, I appreciated your response of being as nice as you could.

I will answer your points of view quoted below:
"...
The "you" in this case are the punkassmotherfuckers who spent most of their working life in the military furthering that sort of thugery. The ones like bamma who constantly "wave the flag" in an effort to perpetuate that sort of thugery. The ones like bamma who never had a shot fired at them but want others to buy a ticket in the body bag lotto. The ones like bamma who glorify the traitors of the confederacy as honorable men instead of the treasonous pieces of shit that they were.
That is about as nice as I know how to put it. "

From my experience, growing up a Military Brat on Military bases, I have a diFferent opinion regarding the men and women who serve and while I don't idealize them I do have respect and love for the ones I've known. My father retired from the Air Force a Colonel, and served in Vietnam, my stepfather retired a MstrSgt but was military intelligence and served in two wars while in a bunker state side.

The soldiers I've known had love and respect for our country but not always for the leadership and politics.Any flag waiving they, and I did was for the people of which America is comprised. I am often ashamed of our actions and our policies that send brave men and women into conflicts I personally believe we have no business in, but I will not disparage the hard work and dedication of the soldiers who serve.

Furthermore, I largely her up in the South. I have heard both sides of the beliefs regarding the confederate flag. Suffice it to say I don't fly one - I have no wish to invite anger not insult - but I do believe that what it stands for in the heart's of the majority of Southerners is not what is often represented in media. That said, racism is an ugly and prevalent presence throughout America, and any symbol that continues to promote the separation of individuals instead of uniting us is counter-intuitive to the American dream of a melting pot of different cultures.

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 5:29:42 PM   
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"Why people continue to sucker for 'unconstitutional regulatory euphemisms' being used to 'replace' the constitution and enforced as law is beyond me. "

Simple, they got more guns. And now they don't teach anything in the schools.

T^T

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 5:36:42 PM   
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"...the treasonous pieces of shit that they were..."

So I suppose that with Brexit, European countries should invade Britain and force them into compliance and rape their Women and take their land during a "reconstruction" like they had here.

Who the fuck ever said that states could never secede from the union ? I have been waiting for ten years for someone to fucking show me that in the Constitution. Nobody has done it, can you ?

I'll be waiting.

T^T

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 6:00:26 PM   
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"...the treasonous pieces of shit that they were..."

So I suppose that with Brexit, European countries should invade Britain and force them into compliance and rape their Women and take their land during a "reconstruction" like they had here.

Who the fuck ever said that states could never secede from the union ? I have been waiting for ten years for someone to fucking show me that in the Constitution. Nobody has done it, can you ?

I'll be waiting.

T^T


I'm certain you know that quote was not mine, but I still want to clarify, just in case.

Not Mine.


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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 8:11:30 PM   
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hmm, well thank you for clarifying and doing so in as nice a way as you can


... I would be more interested in your opinion of my opinions.


I genuinely dislike discussions that turn insulting and feel it is possible to disagree with a person's beliefs without needing to resort to insults. As your posting style often ends with an insult toward the person you are responding to, I appreciated your response of being as nice as you could.

I have never been rude to anyone who was not rude to me first. You have never been rude to me thus I have never been rude to you. I do believe, as you do, that people can disagree without being disagreeable.

I will answer your points of view quoted below:
"...
The "you" in this case are the punkassmotherfuckers who spent most of their working life in the military furthering that sort of thugery. The ones like bamma who constantly "wave the flag" in an effort to perpetuate that sort of thugery. The ones like bamma who never had a shot fired at them but want others to buy a ticket in the body bag lotto. The ones like bamma who glorify the traitors of the confederacy as honorable men instead of the treasonous pieces of shit that they were.
That is about as nice as I know how to put it. "


From my experience, growing up a Military Brat on Military bases, I have a diFferent opinion regarding the men and women who serve and while I don't idealize them I do have respect and love for the ones I've known. My father retired from the Air Force a Colonel, and served in Vietnam, my stepfather retired a MstrSgt but was military intelligence and served in two wars while in a bunker state side.

The soldiers I've known had love and respect for our country but not always for the leadership and politics.Any flag waiving they, and I did was for the people of which America is comprised. I am often ashamed of our actions and our policies that send brave men and women into conflicts I personally believe we have no business in, but I will not disparage the hard work and dedication of the soldiers who serve.


There is a continuous line of marines in my family since 1832. I am not unaware of the difference you speak of.

Furthermore, I largely her up in the South. I have heard both sides of the beliefs regarding the confederate flag. Suffice it to say I don't fly one - I have no wish to invite anger not insult - but I do believe that what it stands for in the heart's of the majority of Southerners is not what is often represented in media. That said, racism is an ugly and prevalent presence throughout America, and any symbol that continues to promote the separation of individuals instead of uniting us is counter-intuitive to the American dream of a melting pot of different cultures.

I grew up in houston texas and while in the service I was stationed in both north and south carolina, florida, tenn. and louisana. I was involved briefly in the altercation in oxford miss. when james merideth was an issue at "old miss. I am not unaware of the endemic racism that prevades much of the south. Segregation was the official policy. The klan operated as openly as the pta.
Please do not take that to mean that I think racism is not endemic throughout amerika...it is just less subtle in the south.

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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/17/2016 8:27:30 PM   
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[ib]"...the treasonous pieces of shit that they were..."

So I suppose that with Brexit, European countries should invade Britain and force them into compliance and rape their Women and take their land during a "reconstruction" like they had here.

You obviously do not understand the concept of the eu. If you did you would never make such a foolish equivilancy.

Who the fuck ever said that states could never secede from the union ? I have been waiting for ten years for someone to fucking show me that in the Constitution. Nobody has done it, can you ?

I'll be waiting.

Perhaps you should start with the declaration of independence then work your way through the federalist and the anti- federalist papers. That should give you some inkling of the why and how of the constitution. The Folks who created the confederacy had sworn an oath to the federal government. The officers who left the amerikan army and navy to fight for the confederacy had also sworn an oath of allegience to the federal government.
Perhaps if you were to get a grown up to help you with a dictionary you could have them help you with the definition of treason. If you were to peruse the documents of succession you would find that the reason given for succession was the preservation of slavery.
Being the ignorant phoque that you are you will do nothing to disabuse yourself of your ignorance and instead offer, once again, to send some of your thug friends to kill me. Your threats are really quite childish.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/18/2016 2:40:38 AM   
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If your mum knew you were that stupid she'd have never tried to pimp you, even to the special needs kids who envied how shiny retard semen made your wheelchair.



Retard semen?

How fucking old are you? 5



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RE: L.A SATURDAY. shooting. - 10/18/2016 2:48:18 AM   
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dear boi, we have to laugh at the spiteful remarks that come thru here,
even with a serious subject.
worse than you and me getting together, slut. xx Terri.

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