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thompsonx -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 11:15:59 AM)


ORIGINAL: respectmen



In regards of wage gap, one of the most believable misconceptions in western history.

If you can think outside the box for a moment, how come lesbians on a general basis earn more than straight women?

If employers could really legally pay women less, why not mostly or only employ women?

Asian men in general earn more than white men in the western world. Where is the leftist outrage over that? None, because it's not politically correct to do so. That said, I believe that there is a legitimate reason behind it. If only white men weren't on the receiving end of this, the leftists would be out in full force making misconception after misconception to disprove the existence of it.

Wage gap theory is nothing more than feminist fantasy.

You remind me of greta. You seem to think if you repeat a lie often enough someone besides you will believe it.
Ask yourself this simple question...how successful have you been?




respectmen -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 2:01:48 PM)

https://archive.is/sJ0VY

Pets are considered more worthy than male DV victims.

So women come first, pets come second, men come...not at all, they get told to fuck off.

I gotta love all this male privilege I apparently have.

Gotta larf




mnottertail -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 2:10:18 PM)

Well then go snap one off for fucks sake if its that urgent.




respectmen -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 2:34:20 PM)

If we treated women this bad, to the point of valuing animals over women, there would be outrage. But it's all okay to discriminate the fuck out of men and even place pets before them when it comes to DV.

Women in the western world are so fucking over privileged, it's laughable to claim that they have it worse.

Society is willing to help women more than men in every single aspect of life due to this fucking whopper empathy gap. Now that is privilege and more than what men will ever have over women.




tamaka -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 2:38:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://archive.is/sJ0VY

Pets are considered more worthy than male DV victims.

So women come first, pets come second, men come...not at all, they get told to fuck off.

I gotta love all this male privilege I apparently have.

Gotta larf


Why don't you do the American thing and try to make some money off the problem instead of whining about it. Open up a body cam shop in Victoria or something. Geeze...




tweakabelle -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 2:54:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://archive.is/sJ0VY

Pets are considered more worthy than male DV victims.

So women come first, pets come second, men come...not at all, they get told to fuck off.

I gotta love all this male privilege I apparently have.

Gotta larf


Why don't you do the American thing and try to make some money off the problem instead of whining about it. Open up a body cam shop in Victoria or something. Geeze...


Possibly a good suggestion but doing things (instead of whining and whinging about things he dislikes) isn't RM's style. If he wanted to live in a macho environment where "men are men, sheep are scared and women are found in the kitchen/bedroom/minding the children", all he has to do is move to outback Australia, where life hasn't changed that much in the last century or so. But that would involve getting off his lazy fat ass and actually doing something.

To my recall, RM's only claim of activity is to yell at some women in burqas "Allah is a cunt"(from a distance) and then run away after that heroic feat of daring-do by our fierce anti-Islamic warrior. That is according to his own account. Of course it could all be a product of his febrile imagination. Either way it's hardly the style of a person big on solutions is it?




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 3:37:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://archive.is/sJ0VY

Pets are considered more worthy than male DV victims.

So women come first, pets come second, men come...not at all, they get told to fuck off.

I gotta love all this male privilege I apparently have.

Gotta larf

From your own source: Over the next four years, $100,000 will be given to the family violence response service, Safe Steps, to build relationships with animal welfare agencies such as the RCPCA and family violence services, the state government announced on Sunday.

So... only $25k/pa for pets???

If just one or two men across the whole of Oz get help for DV, it'll cost more than $25k just in legal fees alone.

Can you find a legit cite for your assertion RM?
Or are you too busy banging your drum to notice that your PoV is vastly skewed and biased??




Awareness -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 4:19:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
(John Clarke too, although he's a bloody Kiwi).

So's Tim Minchin.
No, he's an Australian born to Aussie parents and raised in WA. I think he was born in the UK but that doesn't make him English.




respectmen -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/19/2016 8:03:02 PM)

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/10/18/viral-video-of-violent-teen-fight-raises-concerns-in-vallejo/


This is what happens when nobody bothers to teach women that slapping isn't the proper course of action to take when you're angry with a man. What is the poor bugger supposed to do? Just take it and hope no teeth get knocked out?

But oh no, an evil patriarchy demon made him defend himself!




NookieNotes -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 4:49:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/10/18/viral-video-of-violent-teen-fight-raises-concerns-in-vallejo/


This is what happens when nobody bothers to teach women that slapping isn't the proper course of action to take when you're angry with a man. What is the poor bugger supposed to do? Just take it and hope no teeth get knocked out?

But oh no, an evil patriarchy demon made him defend himself!


1. This is not a woman and a man. These are children, with hormones rushing through their bodies. If it were two girls or two boys, there would still be uproar.

2. there were no charges filed, according to that article. Because they are children.

3. There is a concept of necessary force. She was wrong. He was wrong for doing exactly what it took to get her to stop (take her to the ground), then leave. Or, he could have tried to turn and leave even prior to that. To engage with another girl to try to get back to the first and continue hurting her while she was on the ground is wrong behavior.

This would all be true if the sexes were reversed or same-sex fighting.

You've made no point.




PeonForHer -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 5:12:29 AM)

Jesus. That wasn't just some rough slam to the ground - that looked like a proper hip throw. He was doing judo on her.




tweakabelle -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 6:03:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/10/18/viral-video-of-violent-teen-fight-raises-concerns-in-vallejo/


This is what happens when nobody bothers to teach women that slapping isn't the proper course of action to take when you're angry with a man. What is the poor bugger supposed to do? Just take it and hope no teeth get knocked out?

But oh no, an evil patriarchy demon made him defend himself!


1. This is not a woman and a man. These are children, with hormones rushing through their bodies. If it were two girls or two boys, there would still be uproar.

2. there were no charges filed, according to that article. Because they are children.

3. There is a concept of necessary force. She was wrong. He was wrong for doing exactly what it took to get her to stop (take her to the ground), then leave. Or, he could have tried to turn and leave even prior to that. To engage with another girl to try to get back to the first and continue hurting her while she was on the ground is wrong behavior.

This would all be true if the sexes were reversed or same-sex fighting.

You've made no point.

Excellent post, NookieNotes.

Though when I finished reading it, I was asking myself why is it necessary for someone to point out the difference between children and adults , and that there are different behavioural expectations placed on children and adults ...




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 6:39:38 AM)

Right at the beginning (although hard to make out), it looks as if they'd had strong words.
She can be heard accusing him of calling her some obviously unflattering names and he was demanding an apology which she is clearly refusing to do.

Then there was a flurry of her arms trying to give him a slap for something he said that we couldn't hear.

At that point, he should have walked away or just grabbed her arms to defuse the situation.
But he threw her to the ground in what I would call unnecessary force.
This is blatantly obvious from her semi-conscious and stunned state on the ground.

It's hard to lay blame on either of them at the start because we don't know the prelude to the harsh words.
She was wrong to attack in the first place but he was waay OTT in his response.
His reaction was completely UNjustified.

RM is putting his usual spin on it... as he does.

Personally, IMHO, the boy was ultimately wrong in the way he dealt with it.
Of course, RM will say it's the girls' fault for attempting to slap him.




NookieNotes -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 7:21:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/10/18/viral-video-of-violent-teen-fight-raises-concerns-in-vallejo/


This is what happens when nobody bothers to teach women that slapping isn't the proper course of action to take when you're angry with a man. What is the poor bugger supposed to do? Just take it and hope no teeth get knocked out?

But oh no, an evil patriarchy demon made him defend himself!


1. This is not a woman and a man. These are children, with hormones rushing through their bodies. If it were two girls or two boys, there would still be uproar.

2. there were no charges filed, according to that article. Because they are children.

3. There is a concept of necessary force. She was wrong. He was wrong for doing exactly what it took to get her to stop (take her to the ground), then leave. Or, he could have tried to turn and leave even prior to that. To engage with another girl to try to get back to the first and continue hurting her while she was on the ground is wrong behavior.

This would all be true if the sexes were reversed or same-sex fighting.

You've made no point.

Excellent post, NookieNotes.

Though when I finished reading it, I was asking myself why is it necessary for someone to point out the difference between children and adults , and that there are different behavioural expectations placed on children and adults ...


Well, yes. I get that. I also remember being a teenager and saying some very hateful things—to my mother, for example— that I would never say as an adult.

There is a reason we have an age of adulthood, and it's not 14, 16, or whathaveya.

That's just part of the overall assessment, though, so take it or leave it. *smiles*




Lucylastic -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 7:31:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://archive.is/sJ0VY

Pets are considered more worthy than male DV victims.

So women come first, pets come second, men come...not at all, they get told to fuck off.

I gotta love all this male privilege I apparently have.

Gotta larf


Why don't you do the American thing and try to make some money off the problem instead of whining about it. Open up a body cam shop in Victoria or something. Geeze...


Possibly a good suggestion but doing things (instead of whining and whinging about things he dislikes) isn't RM's style. If he wanted to live in a macho environment where "men are men, sheep are scared and women are found in the kitchen/bedroom/minding the children", all he has to do is move to outback Australia, where life hasn't changed that much in the last century or so. But that would involve getting off his lazy fat ass and actually doing something.

To my recall, RM's only claim of activity is to yell at some women in burqas "Allah is a cunt"(from a distance) and then run away after that heroic feat of daring-do by our fierce anti-Islamic warrior. That is according to his own account. Of course it could all be a product of his febrile imagination. Either way it's hardly the style of a person big on solutions is it?




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To my recall, RM's only claim of activity is to yell at some women in burqas "Allah is a cunt"(from a distance) and then run away after that heroic feat of daring-do by our fierce anti-Islamic warrior.


Actually what he does when he posts here, is whine, argue stupid shit and call women skanks, cunts, bitches feminazis, and runs off.

the poor boy needs a better repertoire....Actually they both do, but at least he posts a cite(no matter how biased) which is something the other one cant do(back his arguments up with facts.)
I read this this morning and I have been in paroxysms all morning at it.
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If your masculinity was that much of a certainty it wouldn't bother you




tweakabelle -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 7:49:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
If your [RM's] masculinity was that much of a certainty it wouldn't bother you


Ain't that the truth!




thompsonx -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 9:59:54 AM)


ORIGINAL: respectmen

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/10/18/viral-video-of-violent-teen-fight-raises-concerns-in-vallejo/


This is what happens when nobody bothers to teach women that slapping isn't the proper course of action to take when you're angry with a man. What is the poor bugger supposed to do? Just take it and hope no teeth get knocked out?

But oh no, an evil patriarchy demon made him defend himself!

He seems to be your hero. Is that because when a girl who was smaller than you whipped your ass in public and you wished you could have been like him.
Here is what you seem not to recognize. She is in a position to open up a huge can of whuppass on him.
She has the vidio. She has tits. How difficult do you think it would be for her to convince "bruiser larue" to beat your hero to a bloody pulp while she stands at the side and smiles.
Obviously your momma never told you about not "dancing with girls that have bigger feet than you".
Now before you get your knickers in a twist do not think for one moment that I condone her actions because I don't I also do not condone his "over reaction" . He is clearly big enough to have stopped her with less lorce than he used.





thompsonx -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 10:04:59 AM)


ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://archive.is/sJ0VY

Pets are considered more worthy than male DV victims.

So women come first, pets come second, men come...not at all, they get told to fuck off.

I gotta love all this male privilege I apparently have.

Gotta larf


Arent you the dense one. Try responding to what I post instead of replying to your agenda. Would you like another try?
If this is confusing to you just look at the post that you replied to and if you cannot parse it out seek the help of a gown up.




PeonForHer -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 10:24:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
If your [RM's] masculinity was that much of a certainty it wouldn't bother you


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Ain't that the truth!


God yes. Not entirely relevant, but feck it: To me, it's like so many ideas of 'masculinity' are huge edifices, like tower blocks, built on swamps. Loads of ideas of fighting, guns, muscles, competition, suppressing feelings, suppressing all empathy in fact, all piled up on top of one another. The higher the edifice is built, the more likely it is to collapse. So, you eventually ... stress, heart failure and death, ordinarily. You have to clear that crap away, drain the swamp on which it's built, and a build a structure of just one idea: that you don't have to strive at being a man, because you already are one.




thompsonx -> RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive "male privilege" lessons to be taught at schools (10/20/2016 10:38:19 AM)


ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


God yes. Not entirely relevant, but feck it: To me, it's like so many ideas of 'masculinity' are huge edifices, like tower blocks, built on swamps. Loads of ideas of fighting, guns, muscles, competition, suppressing feelings, suppressing all empathy in fact, all piled up on top of one another. The higher the edifice is built, the more likely it is to collapse. So, you eventually ... stress, heart failure and death, ordinarily. You have to clear that crap away, drain the swamp on which it's built, and a build a structure of just one idea: that you don't have to strive at being a man, because you already are one.

To be a man only requires a cock.
Being a gentleman requires a bit more.




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