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Greta75 -> Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 1:24:27 AM)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

Dirty Dirty Politics!





RottenJohnny -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 4:06:55 AM)

Oddly enough, I just heard about Project Veritas tonight during a radio show while they talked about these videos. When I heard them mention Michigan as being one of the easy states to manipulate, I decided to go to the Project Veritas website and see what else they had. In Michigan, if you don't have ID on voting day all you need to do is sign a waiver and you can still vote. It's so fucked up. But to find almost a dozen videos showing the undercover people at Project Veritas using the names of several well-known people in Michigan to vote made me sick.

Here's a list of some of the people they used:

Jocelyn Benson, the Dean of Wayne State University Law School
Timothy Greimel, the Michigan House Democratic Leader
Michigan state senator Morris Hood
Pulitzer Prize winning columnist Stephen E. Henderson
Detroit Free Press columnist Nancy Kaffer
Mike E. Duggan, mayor of Detroit
Rapper Eminem, otherwise known as Marshall Bruce Mathers III
James Ananich, the Michigan Senate Minority Leader
David Robertson, a Republican Michigan Senator

http://projectveritas.com/videos_categories/video-releases/




KenDckey -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 5:03:30 AM)

If I remember correctly, wasn't it Bernies people that yelled Clinton Voter Fraud?

Doesn't matter who is doing it, assuming it is done, regardless of the number of cases of it happening, they should be in jail, following a successful prosection. It deliigetimazes our elector process.

Edward R Murrow, where are you when we need you?




Greta75 -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 8:25:14 AM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz7GaQYJ3zA
Anderson Cooper is reporting on this.




BamaD -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 9:11:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

Dirty Dirty Politics!



How many times have we been told that voter fraud is an excuse to disenfranchise minorities, but that it doesn't really exist on any scale of importance.




heavyblinker -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 9:15:01 AM)

Good lord America is screwed.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 9:28:09 AM)

so in other words.... they wanted to out the kinds of people (KKK, Natzi's & bigots) rump is sucking up to?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 9:29:45 AM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK-I_LYbOcY
(Hitler reacts to Donald Trump’s presidential bid) totally believable, that is.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 12:09:08 PM)

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How many times have we been told that voter fraud is an excuse to disenfranchise minorities

Well it is, well not so much minorities as those who will vote against you. While trying to get out your vote is part of the process, so is trying to stop your opponent's votes from getting out.
This is politics 101.
quote:

but that it doesn't really exist on any scale of importance.

That's the thing. It's just not that important in terms of numbers.




jlf1961 -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 1:48:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

Dirty Dirty Politics!





You are aware that the individual who made these videos has been sued and lost those lawsuits because he edited the videos to make false claims, he has also faced criminal charges for the same things?

Funny thing about video, creative editing makes anything possible and this guy is one of the worst. He goes out of his way to discredit anyone and everyone that disagrees with him politically, and has been charged with criminal acts (at least one of which he plea bargained his ass out of jail.)




BamaD -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 1:59:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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How many times have we been told that voter fraud is an excuse to disenfranchise minorities

Well it is, well not so much minorities as those who will vote against you. While trying to get out your vote is part of the process, so is trying to stop your opponent's votes from getting out.
This is politics 101.
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but that it doesn't really exist on any scale of importance.

That's the thing. It's just not that important in terms of numbers.

John Kennedy carried Illinois by one vote per precinct, and thus the election, George Bush, by less in FL. so what is important in terms of numbers.




mnottertail -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 2:05:30 PM)

1 percent lets say? fraud does not rise to that level.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 2:08:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

How many times have we been told that voter fraud is an excuse to disenfranchise minorities

Well it is, well not so much minorities as those who will vote against you. While trying to get out your vote is part of the process, so is trying to stop your opponent's votes from getting out.
This is politics 101.


Actually, to be specific, that's gop/conservative politics 101.

No other political party in America has pushed such laws EVER.
Conservatives have long known after the last two elections that the only sure way of getting their way is to get as many minority and old off the voting rolls.
The last two presidential candidates the GOP fielded were a abysmal failures and their current one is wackier than either one or both of them combined.
And they lost or are losing against liberal candidates they've done their damnedest to discredit or flat-out to make people hate.

what's that say about the gop's policies? simple...they suck.

so? knock off as many voters as u can and hope your rabble shows up.


quote:

but that it doesn't really exist on any scale of importance.

That's the thing. It's just not that important in terms of numbers.


that's where you're wrong, it is important. If they can get as many minorities and old people unable to vote, the GOP wins.




mnottertail -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 2:11:19 PM)

Hell, go you one better welfare patient. 1/2 of 1%. Fraud does not rise to that level.






itsSIRtou -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 2:35:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

Dirty Dirty Politics!





You are aware that the individual who made these videos has been sued and lost those lawsuits because he edited the videos to make false claims, he has also faced criminal charges for the same things?

Funny thing about video, creative editing makes anything possible and this guy is one of the worst. He goes out of his way to discredit anyone and everyone that disagrees with him politically, and has been charged with criminal acts (at least one of which he plea bargained his ass out of jail.)



Im fact I believe one of the videos he was truthfully referred to as "Pinocchio".





Greta75 -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 5:20:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou
so? knock off as many voters as u can and hope your rabble shows up.

All GOP wants is the implementation of photo IDs.
It seems normal and in reasonable in my country. But of course our government makes sure EVERYBODY has a FREE photo ID too.
I don't know why the dems are soo against photo IDs. Just work together giving ALL legit citizens one!
And there is a simple solution to reach out to poor, homeless, elderly who can't travel. Go door to door and knock and help them! Go to streets and reach out to the homeless. Employ social workers to do this! And get their photo ID done for them.
It has to be process with teething stages. What's gonna happen is, you are gonna have voter registration with alot people that have not have the proper ID. Great! That's how you reach out to these people and MAKE sure they have their proper photo ID for the next election. Let this one pass. It doesn't have to be difficult.




Aylee -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 5:28:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

How many times have we been told that voter fraud is an excuse to disenfranchise minorities

Well it is, well not so much minorities as those who will vote against you. While trying to get out your vote is part of the process, so is trying to stop your opponent's votes from getting out.
This is politics 101.
quote:

but that it doesn't really exist on any scale of importance.

That's the thing. It's just not that important in terms of numbers.


If it is not important why to the Dems fight tooth and nail against cleaning the voter roles? How many states now have issues pending with dead people and illegals on the voter roles and voting? Every fraudulent vote disenfranchises a citizen voter.




jlf1961 -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 5:44:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou
so? knock off as many voters as u can and hope your rabble shows up.

All GOP wants is the implementation of photo IDs.
It seems normal and in reasonable in my country. But of course our government makes sure EVERYBODY has a FREE photo ID too.
I don't know why the dems are soo against photo IDs. Just work together giving ALL legit citizens one!
And there is a simple solution to reach out to poor, homeless, elderly who can't travel. Go door to door and knock and help them! Employ social workers to do this! And get their photo ID done!



The problem is not they are against photo ID's, in fact if you had read statements the statements from those allegedly against photo ID you would understand the problem.

The problem is that the states which passed these laws (and over turned by a predominately republican appointed supreme court as unconstitutional) is that the requirements to get state issue photo ID's exceeded the requirements set by the federal government for a passport, thus making the laws unconstitutional.

Some states even required a current US passport as proof of citizenship, and the laws went into effect at such a time as to make it impossible to get a current passport prior to the deadline for registration.

Now, if a predominantly conservative (i.e Republican US Supreme Court) over turns the photo ID laws as unconstitutional, then you have to admit there is a problem with the law.

However, since you are not an American citizen, and refuse to educate yourself on the problems with the laws, and the history of such laws in the US (google Jim Crow laws) then not only are you NOT qualified to pass judgement on anyone having a problem with the laws, but you have no qualifications to pass judgement on any part of the election process.

It might also benefit you to know that in the recent cases of alleged voter fraud and vote tampering, the biggest cause of these cases involved not the democrats perpetrating the fraud, but Republicans. The Al Gore/Bush election is a good example.

You mentioned that your country insures everyone has a free photo ID, well so do some states just for elections. Some states offered the 'voter ID's' but made proving citizenship for minorities (namely Hispanics) almost impossible, put the hours when you could get the ID's at inconvenient times or hard to reach locations (Texas was a good example.)

In Texas, the only place you could get the ID was in a state Driver's license office, something not every town had, and thus, if you had no personal transportation, you were effectively screwed. That was the basis for the case filed in US Federal court against the law.

When the law was introduced, Democrats tried unsuccessfully to make the ID's available at county court houses or city halls or the local post office. The law was over turned as unconstitutional by the US supreme court.

Of course, the legality of such laws seems to mean little or nothing to you and indeed, many US citizens who support these unconstitutional requirements.

But of course, you are proving my point that what brain cells you have do not work toward intelligent thought, and considering your posts concerning sex, seem to be preoccupied with that endeavor rather than education.




BamaD -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 7:51:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou
so? knock off as many voters as u can and hope your rabble shows up.

All GOP wants is the implementation of photo IDs.
It seems normal and in reasonable in my country. But of course our government makes sure EVERYBODY has a FREE photo ID too.
I don't know why the dems are soo against photo IDs. Just work together giving ALL legit citizens one!
And there is a simple solution to reach out to poor, homeless, elderly who can't travel. Go door to door and knock and help them! Employ social workers to do this! And get their photo ID done!



The problem is not they are against photo ID's, in fact if you had read statements the statements from those allegedly against photo ID you would understand the problem.

The problem is that the states which passed these laws (and over turned by a predominately republican appointed supreme court as unconstitutional) is that the requirements to get state issue photo ID's exceeded the requirements set by the federal government for a passport, thus making the laws unconstitutional.

Some states even required a current US passport as proof of citizenship, and the laws went into effect at such a time as to make it impossible to get a current passport prior to the deadline for registration.

Now, if a predominantly conservative (i.e Republican US Supreme Court) over turns the photo ID laws as unconstitutional, then you have to admit there is a problem with the law.

However, since you are not an American citizen, and refuse to educate yourself on the problems with the laws, and the history of such laws in the US (google Jim Crow laws) then not only are you NOT qualified to pass judgement on anyone having a problem with the laws, but you have no qualifications to pass judgement on any part of the election process.

It might also benefit you to know that in the recent cases of alleged voter fraud and vote tampering, the biggest cause of these cases involved not the democrats perpetrating the fraud, but Republicans. The Al Gore/Bush election is a good example.

You mentioned that your country insures everyone has a free photo ID, well so do some states just for elections. Some states offered the 'voter ID's' but made proving citizenship for minorities (namely Hispanics) almost impossible, put the hours when you could get the ID's at inconvenient times or hard to reach locations (Texas was a good example.)

In Texas, the only place you could get the ID was in a state Driver's license office, something not every town had, and thus, if you had no personal transportation, you were effectively screwed. That was the basis for the case filed in US Federal court against the law.

When the law was introduced, Democrats tried unsuccessfully to make the ID's available at county court houses or city halls or the local post office. The law was over turned as unconstitutional by the US supreme court.

Of course, the legality of such laws seems to mean little or nothing to you and indeed, many US citizens who support these unconstitutional requirements.

But of course, you are proving my point that what brain cells you have do not work toward intelligent thought, and considering your posts concerning sex, seem to be preoccupied with that endeavor rather than education.

It should be pointed out that most voter OD laws have withstood court challenges and are still in effect.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Voter Fraud and Hillary Corrupt Campaign (10/19/2016 9:42:13 PM)

quote:

No other political party in America has pushed such laws EVER.

Really? I guess all those Jim Crow laws we hear about are fictional, or was it the Republicans who wanted to disenfranchise their voters?




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