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How long after we ban firearms will it to take to colle... - 10/20/2016 7:52:34 PM   
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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/20/2016 8:00:29 PM   
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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/20/2016 8:05:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		If a bullet exists a rifle barrel traveling at 1200 metres per second, at 500 feet above sea level with an ambient temperature of 68 degrees Fahrenheit and a relative humidity of 59%, how far will it travel before the individual calculating this nonsense loses the fucking will to live?

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/20/2016 8:16:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's not going to happen Bama. Two things WILL happen though.

Firstly, the crims will still get guns. There is always somebody willing to supply them and there are ways of getting modern weapons into almost any country on earth, without them costing an arm or a leg. There may not be as many as there currently are, but they will be there.

Secondly, it turns everybody who owns a gun of any sort into a criminal. Even the most law-abiding of citizens who only keeps that old pistol of grandpa's for sentimental reasons is made into a criminal the minute that law is passed.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/20/2016 8:25:47 PM   
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If a bullet exists a rifle barrel traveling at 1200 metres per second, at 500 feet above sea level with an ambient temperature of 68 degrees Fahrenheit and a relative humidity of 59%, how far will it travel before the individual calculating this nonsense loses the fucking will to live?

You left out the most important factors, how far above the ground is the rifle when the bullet is fired, what angle it is fired at and is the ground level.
All bullets drop at the same rate, however the range is determined by velocity and angle.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/20/2016 8:27:30 PM   
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It's not going to happen Bama. Two things WILL happen though.

Firstly, the crims will still get guns. There is always somebody willing to supply them and there are ways of getting modern weapons into almost any country on earth, without them costing an arm or a leg. There may not be as many as there currently are, but they will be there.

Secondly, it turns everybody who owns a gun of any sort into a criminal. Even the most law-abiding of citizens who only keeps that old pistol of grandpa's for sentimental reasons is made into a criminal the minute that law is passed.

I know.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 3:15:13 AM   
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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 3:32:17 AM   
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If a bullet exists a rifle barrel traveling at 1200 metres per second, at 500 feet above sea level with an ambient temperature of 68 degrees Fahrenheit and a relative humidity of 59%, how far will it travel before the individual calculating this nonsense loses the fucking will to live?

You have a 220 swift, Wanna sell it?

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 7:46:28 AM   
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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 8:21:27 AM   
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If a bullet exists a rifle barrel traveling at 1200 metres per second, at 500 feet above sea level with an ambient temperature of 68 degrees Fahrenheit and a relative humidity of 59%, how far will it travel before the individual calculating this nonsense loses the fucking will to live?

You have a 220 swift, Wanna sell it?


Winchester sells a white box of 40 gr 22-250 bullets that will do that velocity. Also, .338 RUM or Lapua with a light bullet will do it as well. But let's use your Swift and a SMK. The answer would be, dip wads who believe the things they are interested in are the only things worth being interested in are juvenile.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdist-5.1.cgi

Assumptions not stated by dip wad listed.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 8:25:22 AM   
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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 8:25:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

didn't get all the options ignore this poll and I will try again


Yeah, you need one more : Forever.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 9:41:28 AM   
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You have a 220 swift, Wanna sell it?


Winchester sells a white box of 40 gr 22-250 bullets that will do that velocity. Also, .338 RUM or Lapua with a light bullet will do it as well. But let's use your Swift and a SMK. The answer would be, dip wads who believe the things they are interested in are the only things worth being interested in are juvenile.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdist-5.1.cgi

Assumptions not stated by dip wad listed.

You are making assumptions with your alligator mouth that are not redily supported by your canary ass.
It is highly unlikely that you will find a light enough bullet to go into .338 brass that will exceed 4000fps.
This leaves the 22-250 and the 220 swift as the only bullets that will exceed the 4000 fps mark.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 12:51:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Nnanji
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

You have a 220 swift, Wanna sell it?


Winchester sells a white box of 40 gr 22-250 bullets that will do that velocity. Also, .338 RUM or Lapua with a light bullet will do it as well. But let's use your Swift and a SMK. The answer would be, dip wads who believe the things they are interested in are the only things worth being interested in are juvenile.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdist-5.1.cgi

Assumptions not stated by dip wad listed.

You are making assumptions with your alligator mouth that are not redily supported by your canary ass.
It is highly unlikely that you will find a light enough bullet to go into .338 brass that will exceed 4000fps.
This leaves the 22-250 and the 220 swift as the only bullets that will exceed the 4000 fps mark.





The Remington 30-06 accelerator was listed at 4080 fps according to Remington's website.

25-06 87 gr Horniday 4,300

204 and 17 Rem over 4,000
Roy Weatherby shot 30-378 to 4,800 fps
Lazzaroni Scramjet (6.5 mm) over 4,000 fps.

There are lots of bullets that will break 1200 m/s. The reason you don't see it in big bores like a .338 is barrel life and the fact that you don't pick up a .338 intending to shoot light bullets. The BC drops fast and it doesn't make it marketable, stable, cheap or comfortable. But, they'll do it if you want to be silly. Barnes is making a .338 160 gr TTSX. Someone is burning barrels shooting it fast, I saw curve somewhere. You look it up.



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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 1:00:06 PM   
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dear Bama, you really have gone silly.xx

Why, because I asked a question you don't want to think about?

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 1:01:28 PM   
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didn't get all the options ignore this poll and I will try again


Yeah, you need one more : Forever.

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When I redid this the other thread includes over ten years.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 7:08:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I noticed that countries that had confiscations had had registration in place for a long time before.

I'll note that in the US a gun without papers is worth twice as much as the same model with papers.

Also, there were so many gun manufacturers in the past that they could never find all the papers on them and people will keep them.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 7:22:44 PM   
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Thank you for taking the time to respond in depth. I wrote a response that my phone ate, and I'm too tired to rewrite it tonight.
You bring up some valid points. I hope I have time to respond in a timely manner before the thread is too adly derailed.

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 7:25:09 PM   
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WinD Out...

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RE: How long after we ban firearms will it to take to c... - 10/21/2016 7:35:58 PM   
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You have a 220 swift, Wanna sell it?


Winchester sells a white box of 40 gr 22-250 bullets that will do that velocity. Also, .338 RUM or Lapua with a light bullet will do it as well. But let's use your Swift and a SMK. The answer would be, dip wads who believe the things they are interested in are the only things worth being interested in are juvenile.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdist-5.1.cgi

Assumptions not stated by dip wad listed.

You are making assumptions with your alligator mouth that are not redily supported by your canary ass.
It is highly unlikely that you will find a light enough bullet to go into .338 brass that will exceed 4000fps.
This leaves the 22-250 and the 220 swift as the only bullets that will exceed the 4000 fps mark.


There are lots of bullets that will break 1200 m/s. The reason you don't see it in big bores like a .338 is barrel life and the fact that you don't pick up a .338 intending to shoot light bullets. The BC drops fast and it doesn't make it marketable, stable, cheap or comfortable.



Which leaves the 220 swift and the 22-250 as I said.
Your canary ass is still singing the same song.




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