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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Women's bodies were designed to conceive.

Mine wasn't.

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

A body might have been designed evolutionarily to conceive children. However things like medication (Google DES babies), infertility, or surgical removal of reproductive body parts makes conception difficult or impossible.

Yes, but those are later events which don't impact the "designed" criteria. To say your body wasn't designed for reproduction implies either significant genetic damage or simply never having a womb in the first place.

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Where did i point out that i think my way is the best way exactly?

Actually, in almost every post you make dear. You may not see it, but it is there.

I don't think so. I would think that what is best for me probably isn't best at all for most people. Maybe it just sounds best to you.

Omg, back peddle much? If you didn't think your way was the best way you wouldn't have felt the need to call out male subs and female Dommes. You wouldn't have used condescending language when referring to male subs. Nobody, not even you, uses condescension unless they think they know better. Stop playing dumb

Maybe i called them out because i don't think it's a good thing. Get it?

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In the case of DES daughters, that change took place in the womb before the child was even born though. It wasnt a later in life change.

So there are more reasons than just the crack you made about someone being trans

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So what about women who can't have children, or women past child bearing, or protected/anal/safe sex, fertility treatments? I'm really confused why you think peen in vag sex to make da bebbies is all there is to life. Especially when any bdsm activities you yourself are involved in likely don't have the end goal of making babies.
Do you even have kids?

Yeah, pretty much.

I kind of saw it coming, but as soon as reproduction enters the argument it signals the point in the argument where either the tamakas of the world need to take something back or we start having ridiculous arguments about whether or not all non-reproductive sex is unnatural and homosexuals are on the same level as child molesters, etc. On a kink forum no less!

That kind of judgmental attitude isn't going to fly...

I love how basic facts become judgmental attitudes. You asked a specific question and you didn't like the honest, obvious answer. A man can fuck my ass all day and it isn't going to make a baby. Women's bodies were designed to conceive. Men's weren't.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl
So what about women who can't have children, or women past child bearing, or protected/anal/safe sex, fertility treatments? I'm really confused why you think peen in vag sex to make da bebbies is all there is to life. Especially when any bdsm activities you yourself are involved in likely don't have the end goal of making babies.
Do you even have kids?

Yeah, pretty much.

I kind of saw it coming, but as soon as reproduction enters the argument it signals the point in the argument where either the tamakas of the world need to take something back or we start having ridiculous arguments about whether or not all non-reproductive sex is unnatural and homosexuals are on the same level as child molesters, etc. On a kink forum no less!

That kind of judgmental attitude isn't going to fly...

I love how basic facts become judgmental attitudes. You asked a specific question and you didn't like the honest, obvious answer. A man can fuck my ass all day and it isn't going to make a baby. Women's bodies were designed to conceive. Men's weren't.

There's an inherent resistance in here to the concept that human beings are gendered in any way. I put it down to a fundamental inability to deal with reality. Ideas of gender as a social construction are generally championed by the less successful and the androgynous - primarily because they're failures along the various masculinity/femininity axes.

It's kind of like losing the game then pretending it doesn't exist. In many ways it's probably a self-delusional survival tactic - their brains protecting them from the pain of reality... however I think that, in the end, the price they pay won't be worth it.

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He asked about what about a women's biology makes her thrive as a submissive. I answered him with the fact that a women's biology waa designed to receive (no matter what position your in) in order to fulfill the biological function she was designed for.

What has babies, or being able to have one, got to do being submissive??
That's the biggest load of bullshit I've heard for a long time.

One has no bearing on the other.
Why do I say that??
Because one is a mindset, the other is purely a physical ability.
....and they don't always meet.

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Women's bodies were designed to conceive.

Mine wasn't.

Well then, you can't be a woman, can you?

[That was said with *heavy* irony.]

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Without it, they're empty vessels, waiting to be filled by their future owner.

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surely each fulfils something in the other. A slave fulfils herself by keeping her Master happy but surely by the same token, what is a Master without a slave to guide and fulfil and at the same time, fulfil himself ?

Well one would have thought that was obvious, but apparently "true" slaves do it purely to fulfill their Masters and get nothing out of it themselves. Well, at least according to some on here.

They get something out of it but it doesn't come from themselves... it comes from their Master.

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Where did i point out that i think my way is the best way exactly?

Actually, in almost every post you make dear. You may not see it, but it is there.

I don't think so. I would think that what is best for me probably isn't best at all for most people. Maybe it just sounds best to you.

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then the society will descend into Bacchanalian anarchy

Sounds good to me.

Societies without laws are where the strong enforce their will upon the weak. Are you happy to become a possession?

Oh dear, you don't even understand your own simile. A Baccchanlian anarchy does not imply a society without laws. But really, thanks for trying.

They're words. They have meanings. If you don't understand them, that's entirely your own problem.

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Where did i point out that i think my way is the best way exactly?

Actually, in almost every post you make dear. You may not see it, but it is there.

I don't think so. I would think that what is best for me probably isn't best at all for most people. Maybe it just sounds best to you.

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FR
For what it is worth, all the discussion about women who are unable to conceive in no way counters the argument tamaka made. The problem with tamaka's argument is that it is simply illogical, her conclusion simply does not follow from her premise.
Female hyenas are also biologically designed to receive and conceive, and yet the females are the dominant ones in a hyena pack, thus there is clearly no inherent relationship between dominance and being a receiver/conceiver.

The simple fact is that there is no demonstrable fact to prove a natural (as opposed to societal) inclination towards either dominance or submission in any gender, and thus it is foolish to make such a claim.

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But, I do find it irritating when people try to invalidate my relationship with M simply because they view conception as validity point.

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Another open question.
For those who find submissive men "weak and pathetic" or a danger to society, well how do you view dominant women?