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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

I was reading on another post in the general forum when a poster said something about cultural appropriation, and it occurred to me that does cultural appropriation mean that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent should speak English, and only people of French descent should speak French and so on and so forth.

After all ,the most basic expression of a culture is language.
If a culture can claim a particular hair style, then can a culture claim a language -and if not why not?

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

I was reading on another post in the general forum when a poster said something about cultural appropriation, and it occurred to me that does cultural appropriation mean that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent should speak English, and only people of French descent should speak French and so on and so forth.

After all ,the most basic expression of a culture is language.
If a culture can claim a particular hair style, then can a culture claim a language -and if not why not?

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ORIGINAL: sovereignsays

Cultural appropriation isn't about simply adopting the style of a culture that isn't your own. In order to be an ace appropriator, you need to discard or ignore the origins and meaning associated with said style.

Barring slang, language cannot be appropriated.

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

I was reading on another post in the general forum when a poster said something about cultural appropriation, and it occurred to me that does cultural appropriation mean that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent should speak English, and only people of French descent should speak French and so on and so forth.

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in any event, if I were a part of an some group and I felt I was being "culturally appropriated" id view it as an opportunity for sharing information, experiences and friendship.

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the whole area of "cultural appropriation" is promulgated by intolerant lefties who see racism and oppression where none exists. the idea of it seems to be akin to "safe spaces", "micro-aggressions" and other whiny creations.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

I was reading on another post in the general forum when a poster said something about cultural appropriation, and it occurred to me that does cultural appropriation mean that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent should speak English, and only people of French descent should speak French and so on and so forth.

After all ,the most basic expression of a culture is language.
If a culture can claim a particular hair style, then can a culture claim a language -and if not why not?

The Wiki article presents a view different from the one you suggest:

Cultural appropriation is the adoption or use of elements of one culture by members of another culture.[1] Cultural appropriation is seen by some[2] as controversial, notably when elements of a minority culture are used by members of the cultural majority; this is seen as wrongfully oppressing the minority culture or stripping it of its group identity and intellectual property rights.[3][4][5][6] This view of cultural appropriation is sometimes termed "cultural misappropriation".[3][6] According to critics of the practice, cultural (mis)appropriation differs from acculturation or assimilation in that the "appropriation" or "misappropriation" refers to the adoption of these cultural elements in a colonial manner: elements are copied from a minority culture by members of the dominant culture, and these elements are used outside of their original cultural context—sometimes even against the expressed, stated wishes of representatives of the originating culture.[6][7][8][9][10][11][12]


Blacks, Italians, and Spanish have benefited by white American appropriation of some elements of the minority cultures . . music and dance, for example.

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

I was reading on another post in the general forum when a poster said something about cultural appropriation, and it occurred to me that does cultural appropriation mean that only people of Anglo-Saxon descent should speak English, and only people of French descent should speak French and so on and so forth.

After all ,the most basic expression of a culture is language.
If a culture can claim a particular hair style, then can a culture claim a language -and if not why not?

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ORIGINAL: sovereignsays
Micro aggressions are very real

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and safe spaces are very important.

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Your need to invalidate people's experiences is incredibly sad.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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in any event, if I were a part of an some group and I felt I was being "culturally appropriated" id view it as an opportunity for sharing information, experiences and friendship.

My point exactly. See above.

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the whole area of "cultural appropriation" is promulgated by intolerant lefties who see racism and oppression where none exists. the idea of it seems to be akin to "safe spaces", "micro-aggressions" and other whiny creations.

You paint a fine portrait with a fucking spray gun and you are peeing into the paint with your own right wing biases.

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ORIGINAL: sovereignsays

I sincerely hope you see the irony in your post.

Let's say you were a Black Jamaican and you were raised practicing rastafarianism. Your parents loc'ed your hair at age 4 and since then, you've been mocked/questioned/pawed at by people because of your hair. You rarely see yourself represented in popular culture and when you do, its caricature. Worse, your hairstyle on a white person is celebrated as beautiful and daring.

Now I ask you, would this make you feel like a benevolent educator? In what way does always placing the onus to enlighten on the appropriated foster feelings of "friendship"?

Micro aggressions are very real and safe spaces are very important. Your need to invalidate people's experiences is incredibly sad.

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One way to think about it is by looking at old movies, where white people played the roles of Asians, Native Americans and so on.

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Dismissing a position out of hand is far easier than actually having a rational discussion about it's merits. This is and has been your intellectually dishonest position in most of your posts. That is why we simply note that:
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.